January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by stepharo

When you have a technical questions or request for information just do not think. - look on google - if not found ask Report problems with precision without thinking too much. Feedback is always important. Then if you know the answer to a question (of somebody else) or found it (because this is a challenge to answer questions and a really good way to learn) do not hesitate to post Stef Le 17/1/15 00:48, Laura Risani a Ã©crit : > Hi all, > > I really appreciate the dedication and effort someone generously put > into answering a question. i want neither to waste such a lovely > people's time by saying irrelevant things nor to sound harsh or dry to > them. > > It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a > rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. > > So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not > sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list > form of communication. > > My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? > If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. > Should i always answer back > ...commenting whether if it worked or not? > ...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something useful for > solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) > Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single > post to all? > Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? > > Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would > be nice :) > Best, > Laura > > > >

Jan. 17, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Manners on the list?

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi Laura >It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me >a rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. Feedback is appreciated. Thanks for asking. >So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not sure which are the >right/usual manners for this particular mail-list form of communication. Every mailing list is slightly different. Some have many posts, some have little. Some are very focused, others less so. In general, the regulars will let you know if something doesn't fit well. You can see how that works in the pharo-dev list in the InfoWorld on Redline Smalltalk thread, where Marcus asks if he should create a pharo-talk mailing list. That was an indirect way to say that the discussion should probably move elsewhere. After repeating it and getting some support for it, the discussion started moving. >My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? >If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. >Should i always answer back >...commenting whether if it worked or not? >...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something >useful for solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) This is the list of an open source community. Open source thrives on appreciation. In SO, people can show appreciation by voting. The strict moderation makes it very difficult to create a community. You can see that in the meta site of SO. We have worldwide participants, so a hiatus of a day (or a weekend) in discussions is expected. We like feedback. Feedback motivates. >Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single post to all? >Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? If you can fit the response well in one post that is preferred, especially in longer discussions. Please cut down the quotations in your response to the relevant parts. One-line comments are fine. >Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would be nice :) Most of Netnews Netiquette is still pretty useful. Cheers, Stephan Eggermont

Jan. 17, 2015

Manners on the list?

by Laura Risani

Hi all, I really appreciate the dedication and effort someone generously put into answering a question. i want neither to waste such a lovely people's time by saying irrelevant things nor to sound harsh or dry to them. It doesn't kind of feel right saying nothing when someone gives me a rather lengthly answer, unless it was the tacit agreement. So i'm facing questions whether or not to make a post, because i'm not sure which are the right/usual manners for this particular mail-list form of communication. My questions boils down to : how/when to provide feedback? If for example i ask a question and receive answers from three people. Should i always answer back ...commenting whether if it worked or not? ...only if it didn't solve my problem or if i had something useful for solving it to add? (like Stack Overflow) Should i answer back in a separate post to each of them or in a single post to all? Are one-line smalltalk comments alright here or should i avoid them? Any other advice on manners is also welcome. A written manifest would be nice :) Best, Laura

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Could we keep Pharo-dev for Pharo-dev?

by Stephan Eggermont

Blake wrote: >Looks like that SO question was re-opened. Maybe SO can be educated? Yes, but I'm not going to spend the time having a discussion on Meta each time a question should be reopened, especially as there are no signs of a solution. Stephan

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Becoming proficient in Pharo

by stepharo

Me too! Le 15/1/15 16:09, nacho a Ã©crit : > Master kilon, > thank you very much. This is an excellent videcast. > As always with your videos a lot of questions arise after watching them! > I really appreciate you taking the time to put this togheter. > Cheers > nacho > > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Becoming-proficient-in-Pharo-tp4799284p4799717.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Pharo 3 error when loading Pharo Launcher

by nacho

When I try to load Pharo Launcher from Metacello, I get the following error: The symbolic version #stable is EXPLICITY not defined in ConfigurationOfPharoLauncher for the current platform. I'm running Win 8.1 In my OSX machine works perfectly so I assume it has to be with Windows. best regards Nacho ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-3-error-when-loading-Pharo-Launcher-tp4800079.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] A simple debugger for stepping though bytecodes.

by Alexandre Bergel

Yes! This is important for us to be able to do that :-) Cheers, Alexandre > On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > What do you mean by a Roassal plugin? You mean a debugger dedicated to debugging Roassal problems, or you mean Roassal visualizations for various debuggers? > > To both the answer is that it is easy to do. If you want to see an example of using a Roassal visualization inside a debugger, you can take a look at the Glamour Debugger, but essentially you just have to create a browser like any other and put in there a Roassal presentation. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I am quite interested in plugin a Roassal visualization to a debugger. > I will discuss with Rosario, but maybe you have worked on something on your side? Would it be hard to have this? > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > We've just made a simple debugger for stepping through bytecodes. It's still just the first version so a lot of things can still be improved. > > > > More info here: https://chisvasileandrei.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/a-bytecode-debugger/ > > > > Cheers, > > Andrei > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] A simple debugger for stepping though bytecodes.

by Alexandre Bergel

Ok! Thanks! Alexandre > On Jan 16, 2015, at 2:25 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 10:40 PM, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > I am quite interested in plugin a Roassal visualization to a debugger. > I will discuss with Rosario, but maybe you have worked on something on your side? Would it be hard to have this? > > I didn't got a chance to work more on it, but a simple version is quite easy to implement following the same implementation as the one from the RProfiler debugger. > > > Cheers, > Andrei > > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > > > On Jan 15, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Andrei Chis <chisvasileandrei(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > We've just made a simple debugger for stepping through bytecodes. It's still just the first version so a lot of things can still be improved. > > > > More info here: https://chisvasileandrei.wordpress.com/2015/01/15/a-bytecode-debugger/ > > > > Cheers, > > Andrei > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;.

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside and JQuery/JQueryUI

by sergio_101

thanks! will try that.. On Fri Jan 16 2015 at 2:34:20 PM Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think you need to run this: > > ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project stableVersion load: 'JQueryUI Examples'. > > in a workspace to load the code you're looking for. > > > > sergio_101 wrote > > at one point, there was a section of seaside that demonstrated using > > jquery > > and jqueryui with seaside.. along with code examples. that was SUPER > > helpful. > > > > I can't seem to find that anywhere. does anyone know if it's still part > of > > seaside? > > > > thanks! > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Seaside- > and-JQuery-JQueryUI-tp4800030p4800032.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 16, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside and JQuery/JQueryUI

by Paul DeBruicker

I think you need to run this: ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project stableVersion load: 'JQueryUI Examples'. in a workspace to load the code you're looking for. sergio_101 wrote > at one point, there was a section of seaside that demonstrated using > jquery > and jqueryui with seaside.. along with code examples. that was SUPER > helpful. > > I can't seem to find that anywhere. does anyone know if it's still part of > seaside? > > thanks! -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Seaside-and-JQuery-JQueryUI-tp4800030p4800032.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 16, 2015