January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Just a detail. When you run headless with the latest pharo-vm (that you can download here: http://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/ in your OS directory, file stable.zip), add --no-quit after --no-display in the VM start-up options. 2015-01-21 7:21 GMT+01:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > why running pharo with a squeakvm? > > I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. > > Your vm params look like weird. > > I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. > > Phil > Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > #!/bin/bash >> >> # settings >> USER="badgesoup" >> VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" >> VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" >> IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" >> >> # start the vm >> exec \ >> setuidgid "$USER" \ >> "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" >> >> On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < >> emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What is in the 'run' file? >>> >>> Esteban A. Maringolo >>> >>> >>> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >>> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >>> > information i am finding is outdated. >>> > >>> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >>> > >>> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >>> > >>> > $ sudo ./run >>> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >>> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >>> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >>> > >>> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >>> > same directory as this image.' >>> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >>> > >>> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >>> > >>> > ideas? thanks! >>> > >>> > >>> >>>

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo and X11 primary selection (aka middle mouse button paste)

by Pieter Nagel

Hi, Thanks very much - "--textenc UTF-8" works for us! For the sake of others with the same issue reading this in the archives, I just want to be pedantic and point out that I doubt "--textenc UTF-8" is some magic panacea that will work for all systems. The issue seems to be that the encoding Pharo uses should match that of the surrounding system, which, for us, happens to be UTF-8 but could be different for others. I was a bit sloppy when I spoke of "middle button paste". I don't mean that the Pharo's paste command should be bound to the middle mouse button. I meant that Pharo should be able to paste the type of X11 selection (primary selection) that some other apps like terminals traditionally paste when you press the middle button. And that is still not implemented: I need to explicitly press "Copy" in Chrome before it is pasted to Pharo, just highlighting the text does not work. > Hi, > > try setting the encoding of pharo to unicode when launching from command > line and see if that fixes your problem: > --textenc UTF-8 > > The default encoding is not unicode which messes pasting from some > applications (e.g. Google Chrome 35+). > As far as middle mouse button pasting goes I do not believe Pharo supports > it - at least I haven't found any code related to it (although I would > love > to have this functionality). > > Peter > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Pieter Nagel <pieter(a)nagel.co.za> wrote: > >> Our team is very frustrated with figuring out how copy & paste is >> supposed >> to work in Pharo 3 under X11. >> >> Maybe there's something we misunderstand, or can configure? >> >> We can't copy and paste text directly from other X11 apps into Pharo. We >> need to first paste the text into text editors like GEdit or XEmacs, and >> then we can copy and paste the text from there into Pharo. >> >> I think this has something to do with X11's complicated model of primary >> vs. clipboard selection. The primary selection is typically created by >> just highlighting some text, and then (by common convention) can be >> pasted >> from by just pressing the middle mouse button. The clipboard selection >> is >> typically created by explicitly using Copy or Cut commands. >> >> Strange thing is, if we start with text in (for example) Google Chrome, >> then neither type of selection can be pasted into Pharo. If we start >> with >> text in (for example) GEdit, then both types of selection can be pasted >> into Pharo. >> >> We're using Unity under Ubuntu 12.04, if that makes a difference. >> >> Advice? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by phil＠highoctane.be

why running pharo with a squeakvm? I am runnin headless with PharoVM here. Your vm params look like weird. I'll give you a copy of my CLI when I have access to my Pc. Phil Le 21 janv. 2015 03:59, "sergio_101" <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > #!/bin/bash > > # settings > USER="badgesoup" > VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" > VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" > IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" > > # start the vm > exec \ > setuidgid "$USER" \ > "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" > > On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo < > emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is in the 'run' file? >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> >> 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: >> > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the >> > information i am finding is outdated. >> > >> > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. >> > >> > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: >> > >> > $ sudo ./run >> > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' >> > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named >> > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. >> > >> > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the >> > same directory as this image.' >> > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. >> > >> > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. >> > >> > ideas? thanks! >> > >> > >> >>

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by Alain Rastoul

Le 21/01/2015 03:26, sergio_101 a Ã©crit : > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > information i am finding is outdated. > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > May be you installed squeak in your system from the ubuntu package management system, and it is quite outdated. You can install the pharo one with the little script given at: http://pharo.org/download You will get a newer pharo vm and a launcher that is very handy to manage images HTH -- Regards, Alain

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by sergio_101

#!/bin/bash # settings USER="badgesoup" VM="/usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/squeakvm" VM_PARAMS="-mmap 256m -vm-sound-null -vm-display-null" IMAGE="/home/badgesoup/badgesoup_image/Pharo3.0.image" # start the vm exec \ setuidgid "$USER" \ "$VM" $VM_PARAMS "$IMAGE" On Tue Jan 20 2015 at 9:32:04 PM Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What is in the 'run' file? > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > > information i am finding is outdated. > > > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > > > > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: > > > > $ sudo ./run > > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' > > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named > > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. > > > > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the > > same directory as this image.' > > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. > > > > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. > > > > ideas? thanks! > > > > > >

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Running Pharo headless

by Esteban A. Maringolo

What is in the 'run' file? Esteban A. Maringolo 2015-01-20 23:26 GMT-03:00 sergio_101 <sergio.rrd(a)gmail.com>: > i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the > information i am finding is outdated. > > I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. > > when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: > > $ sudo ./run > 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' > 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named > /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. > > Please check that the file is named properly and is in the > same directory as this image.' > A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. > > everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. > > ideas? thanks! > >

Jan. 21, 2015

Running Pharo headless

by sergio_101

i am ready to put my seaside app online, and am finding that all the information i am finding is outdated. I am running the latest Pharo (as of last night), and ubuntu14.04. when i try to run using squeakvm, i get: $ sudo ./run 'Your VM is too old for this image. Please download the latest VM.' 'Pharo cannot locate the sources file named /usr/lib/squeak/4.10.2-2614/PharoV30.sources. Please check that the file is named properly and is in the same directory as this image.' A PharoCommandLineHandler is xxxxxxxxx. everywhere i look, the information seems several years old.. ideas? thanks!

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Alain Rastoul

Le 21/01/2015 00:38, horrido a Ã©crit : > Well, I've already apologized. You are right, I was oblivious to > extra-cultural thinking, to which I plead ignorance. Now that I know better, > I shall do better. > > Please remember, I'm a volunteer. I stepped up when no one else would. Am I > the best man for the job? Probably not, *but who is??* > > I will make mistakes. Hopefully, I will learn from my mistakes. Hopefully, I > will do a good job for you. > > As per Jimmie's advice, I have prepared a note that explains where I'm > coming from, so that no one in the future should ever misconstrue my > writings: http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ > > I still don't think there's anything wrong with me being a WWII buff, so I > shall never apologize for that. However, I shall endeavour to be sensitive > to people in other parts of the world. Where I stumble, I will expect you to > correct me. After all, I *am* human. If you prick me, do I not bleed? > your efforts are not the point. I just ask you *please* keep "blitzkrg" stuff for you, it *really* hurts nowadays, you have a right to like what you want, no problem with that, but again *please* keep that for you. Don't feel too bad, there is no aim to harm, just bad feelings on my side too. think about that, about your messages and I stop and *peace* :) -- Regards, Alain

Jan. 21, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by horrido

Well, I've already apologized. You are right, I was oblivious to extra-cultural thinking, to which I plead ignorance. Now that I know better, I shall do better. Please remember, I'm a volunteer. I stepped up when no one else would. Am I the best man for the job? Probably not, *but who is??* I will make mistakes. Hopefully, I will learn from my mistakes. Hopefully, I will do a good job for you. As per Jimmie's advice, I have prepared a note that explains where I'm coming from, so that no one in the future should ever misconstrue my writings: http://horridohobbies.tumblr.com/ I still don't think there's anything wrong with me being a WWII buff, so I shall never apologize for that. However, I shall endeavour to be sensitive to people in other parts of the world. Where I stumble, I will expect you to correct me. After all, I *am* human. If you prick me, do I not bleed? Alain Rastoul-2 wrote > I agree fully with all of what Ben said, > but I would like to say a last word before stopping me too, because > that bother me and very probably other people. > > I thought about that thread in the train this morning, I was reading > charlie hebdo "message de Cabu: allez les gars ne vous laissez pas > abattre" bad translation: "come on guys dont let yourself be down (shot > down in french)" Cabu was one of the charlie hebo magazine guys shot > last week and very well known and loved in france. > the epitaph was : "rions aux larmes" (let's laught to tears") > That was really hard. > Here I couldn't laugh at all even if I like to joke about everything > (me, my bike, my code, things I like, the awkward and stupid the more I > like - people do not always appreciate, they think I'm stupid and I am, > so it's ok) > > I hate people who think they have rights over others. > In the past I talked to several much older people (all dead now) whose > lives where completely broken by war. > > That you are WWII buff is fine for you if you like that, for me I don't, > even if my son liked to play war with soldiers figurines when he was 8 > and I liked to played with him. He grew up, I did too (....... not > completely sure for that one :) ), > > these are things I hate and I will allways be against. > I will *never* rally up with a "blitzkrieg smalltalk" or "horiirod" or > "generalisimo" whatever ... > Even if I love smalltalk. > As a PR campain Richard, this is upmost too bad taste for me. > > On the other hand, I think a carefully driven PR campaign could be good > a thing, and it's great to see involved people, you worked hard on that. > We could also talk of lot interesting things related to software > evolution. > For example that : > - dinausors died because they where not agile enough to handle > meteorits, should they have learned scrum in order to diversify ? :) > - the graal quest seems to have failed in life, and in software too ? > - smalltalk is mostly about implementing and refactoring living systems ? > there are very actual great examples of that in software . > > > -- > Regards, > > Alain -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Blitzkrieg-tp4800165p4800735.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 20, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Blitzkrieg!

by Alain Rastoul

I agree fully with all of what Ben said, but I would like to say a last word before stopping me too, because that bother me and very probably other people. I thought about that thread in the train this morning, I was reading charlie hebdo "message de Cabu: allez les gars ne vous laissez pas abattre" bad translation: "come on guys dont let yourself be down (shot down in french)" Cabu was one of the charlie hebo magazine guys shot last week and very well known and loved in france. the epitaph was : "rions aux larmes" (let's laught to tears") That was really hard. Here I couldn't laugh at all even if I like to joke about everything (me, my bike, my code, things I like, the awkward and stupid the more I like - people do not always appreciate, they think I'm stupid and I am, so it's ok) I hate people who think they have rights over others. In the past I talked to several much older people (all dead now) whose lives where completely broken by war. That you are WWII buff is fine for you if you like that, for me I don't, even if my son liked to play war with soldiers figurines when he was 8 and I liked to played with him. He grew up, I did too (....... not completely sure for that one :) ), these are things I hate and I will allways be against. I will *never* rally up with a "blitzkrieg smalltalk" or "horiirod" or "generalisimo" whatever ... Even if I love smalltalk. As a PR campain Richard, this is upmost too bad taste for me. On the other hand, I think a carefully driven PR campaign could be good a thing, and it's great to see involved people, you worked hard on that. We could also talk of lot interesting things related to software evolution. For example that : - dinausors died because they where not agile enough to handle meteorits, should they have learned scrum in order to diversify ? :) - the graal quest seems to have failed in life, and in software too ? - smalltalk is mostly about implementing and refactoring living systems ? there are very actual great examples of that in software . -- Regards, Alain

Jan. 20, 2015