January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] OS Project with initial support for Ubuntu and Unix

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Torsten Bergmann's message of 2015-01-09 11:27:01 +0100: > beside the existing "OS-Windows" support for Windows operating system > the "Pharo OS project" (http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS) now also has > new subprojects for "OS-Unix" and "OS-Linux-Ubuntu" with some initial > support for these native platforms as well. > > You can load it from the config browser in Pharo 4.0. I guess the > attached screenshot will explain it all... i can't get it to work. whatever i try to load, pharo just hangs when i try to use one of the linux menu entries. greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Mayuresh Kathe

thanks. a question; would the second book require me to work through the original book on design patterns first? ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 06:06:31PM -0800, Sebastian Heidbrink wrote: > Definitely a good book! > > You might also consider these, too: > > for the couch, or desk while waiting: > http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/WithStyle/SmalltalkWithStyle.pdf > > a must > http://www.amazon.ca/The-Design-Patterns-Smalltalk-Companion/dp/0201184621 > > Sebastian > > > On 2015-01-25 1:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > >hello, > > > >would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > >considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > > >i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > >while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > >for me as i progress further. > > > >i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > >something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > >for them. > > > >~mayuresh > > > > > > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Mayuresh Kathe

great. i think i'll work through it to get a better grip over smalltalk using "pharo", post which i'll start off with the "pharo" books. thanks for the note. ~mayuresh On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 10:43:48PM -0300, Ignacio Sniechowski wrote: > It's a very good introductory book for Smalltalk in general but it is not > focused on Pharo but in IBM's Smalltalk. It has a good treatment of OOP, > and the basic classes. But if you want to learn about specific Pharo > frameworks and APIs it wont help you that much. > cheers > Nacho > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* > *Prosavic SRL* > > *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* > > > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > > > hello, > > > > would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > > considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > > > i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > > while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > > for me as i progress further. > > > > i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > > something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > > for them. > > > > ~mayuresh > > > > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

by Mayuresh Kathe

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 10:44:29AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > > > hello, > > > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > > "pharo" at the moment? > > > > problem: > > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > > application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" > > and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) > > > > > > > I don't think so. The email client I've seen mentioned most often is > Celeste, but having a browse around it doesn't seem to support imap, and I > can't find a repository that seems alive. > > On squeaksource.com there is > * Celeste - browsing around it seems this doesn't support IMAP > * Hermes IMAP Email Client > * IMAP > > They all seem fairly old. Since the UI probably is where greatest changes > might have occurred, I wonder with the last one would be the best to use > and roll your own UI using Glamour. Email is kind of a drill-down > application suited to Glamour. > > btw just curious, how are you switching between consoles? Using > CTRL+ALT+F(1-6) ? first attempt was indeed to use that (ctrl + alt + fn1 ~ fn6) approach, but after a few switches my system just hung. now, i have disciplined myself to first work through every email, then work with pharo as much as i can, take notes about stuff i get stuck at, exit pharo (and the x session), and head over to mutt. :( ~mayuresh

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

by Ben Coman

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > hello, > > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > "pharo" at the moment? > > problem: > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" > and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) > > > I don't think so. The email client I've seen mentioned most often is Celeste, but having a browse around it doesn't seem to support imap, and I can't find a repository that seems alive. On squeaksource.com there is * Celeste - browsing around it seems this doesn't support IMAP * Hermes IMAP Email Client * IMAP They all seem fairly old. Since the UI probably is where greatest changes might have occurred, I wonder with the last one would be the best to use and roll your own UI using Glamour. Email is kind of a drill-down application suited to Glamour. btw just curious, how are you switching between consoles? Using CTRL+ALT+F(1-6) ? cheers -ben

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Sebastian Heidbrink

Definitely a good book! You might also consider these, too: for the couch, or desk while waiting: http://sdmeta.gforge.inria.fr/FreeBooks/WithStyle/SmalltalkWithStyle.pdf a must http://www.amazon.ca/The-Design-Patterns-Smalltalk-Companion/dp/0201184621 Sebastian On 2015-01-25 1:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > hello, > > would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > for me as i progress further. > > i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > for them. > > ~mayuresh > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] smalltalk, objects and design - chamond liu

by Ignacio Sniechowski

It's a very good introductory book for Smalltalk in general but it is not focused on Pharo but in IBM's Smalltalk. It has a good treatment of OOP, and the basic classes. But if you want to learn about specific Pharo frameworks and APIs it wont help you that much. cheers Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* *Prosavic SRL* *Tel: (011) 4542-6714* On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Mayuresh Kathe <mayuresh(a)kathe.in> wrote: > hello, > > would the book; smalltalk, objects and design by chamond liu be > considered good to work through using "pharo"? > > i am currently working through; squeak, a quick trip to object-land. > while nice as an introduction, doesn't feel like it might be deep enough > for me as i progress further. > > i am looking at the pharo books, but, a previous discussion mentioned > something about newer versions being in the works, would prefer to wait > for them. > > ~mayuresh > > >

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] any imap + smtp client available?

by Martin BÃ¤hr

Excerpts from Mayuresh Kathe's message of 2015-01-25 22:42:37 +0100: > is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under > "pharo" at the moment? > > problem: > due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only > application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" > and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) another approach to that problem (which i am interested in) is to have a terminal within pharo. take a look at http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS it now supports unix/linux and includes a terminal. it's in the pharo4 config browser. i don't know how well it works (a first try to start a terminal hangs the image :-( greetings, martin. -- eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life -- chief engineer eKita.co pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org secretary beijinglug.org mentor fossasia.org foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com unix sysadmin Martin BÃ¤hr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/

Jan. 26, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Sound of Silence

by Nicolai Hess

I don't know exaclty why we don't build the pulse audio plugin for pharo. But you can take a squeak vm (Squeak-4.3-all-in-one) for example and copy the Squeak-4.3-All-in-One/Contents/Linux-i686/lib/squeak/4.4.7-2357/so.vm-sound-pulse in your pharo-vm directory pharo-vm/vm-sound-pulse after that, sound works at least on ubuntu 14.04 with latest pharo vm and image and pharoextras/sound package 2015-01-25 19:11 GMT+01:00 Evan Donahue <emdonahu(a)gmail.com>: > 64-bit Arch linux 3.17.6-1-ARCH > > I seem to be running pulse-audio with alsa, and I believe I have all the > 32-compadibility libraries installed, but my experience with linux sound is > limited. What is Pharo expecting? > > Thanks, > Evan > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Sound-of-Silence-tp4801562p4801584.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 25, 2015

any imap + smtp client available?

by Mayuresh Kathe

hello, is there any email client with imap + smtp support available under "pharo" at the moment? problem: due to compute power constraints, i am running "pharo" as my only application via xinit, having to constantly switch between "pharo" and console (for mutt) is becoming painful. :) ~mayuresh

Jan. 25, 2015