January 2015 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by Mircea S.

Are there any Guides of any kind? The seaside book seems to have some jQuery parts but they are sketchy and commenting is disabled so I can't correct them. Pe 1 feb. 2015, la 00:10, "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be> a scris: > > Le 31 janv. 2015 22:37, "Mircea S." <mircea(a)unom.ro> a Ã©crit : > > > > > > Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous? > > > > Ex1: > > > > html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). > > > > html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). > > > > Ex2: > > > > html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. > > > > (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. > > > > The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and it's effect on syntax? > > > > PS. Especially in the last example. > > Mostly because that is how jQuery works. > > This is mapping the jQuery API. > > A good trick is to halt around those calls and inspect what the expression between parentheses gives. > > This helped me tremendously in understanding how jQuery worked with Seaside. Docs are quite shallow in that area but the system works very well. > > Check the tests and JQWidgetbox for a ton of samples. > > HTH > Phil > > > > > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Code completion differences at browser and workspace

by Laura Risani

Hi Nicolai , I have noticed what you say, because there is a label in code completion with the class name . Yet what i haven't explicitly considered before, and your comment made me notice, is that in order to code copmletition to function properly, all the previous text should be a valid expression. Thank you for the teaching! Best, Laura On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:02 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > 2015-01-29 22:06 GMT+01:00 Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've noticed that the code completition tool shows a different list if >> brought up at a workspace or at a system browser. Particulary workspace's >> completition list is broader than browser's one. >> >> For instance if while writting a method i have already accepted other >> method names but haven't yet defined them in any class, these selectors are >> shown in worskpace's completition but don't in browser's. So while at the >> system browser i have to waste keystrokes bringing up the manually the >> other completition tool and search in that list the selector i want. >> >> So, question : how do i make the completition tool show at system browser >> the same list that it would show at a workspace? >> >> Best, >> Laura >> > > > There is one difference between the Workspace and the SystemBrowser. > In the SystemBrowers, the one method that you are editing belongs to one > (known) class and if you > start typing > "self" > the code completion can guess which methods of that class (or > superclasses) can be called. > In the Workspace you don't have this (class-) context. > > But the code completion is smart enough to guess the actual type in some > situations, for example > in a Workspace: > > |m| > m:= new Morph. > m handleKey > > at this point, the code completion context knows, that "m" is a Morph and > therefore only shows the methods > from the class Morph, starting with "handleKey". > This completion menu should be the same, as if you start with > self handleKey > in the SystemBrowser, while editing a method of the class Morph. > > nicolai > > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] How do I save contents of Workspace into a collection?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi Frank, Just reading old mail to catch up with community memory I found this mail. I don't know if you know about playgrounds on Moose[1], which by default stores all playgrounds (kind of rethought workspaces) in a cache. Also I'm working recently on Grafoscopio[2] which is a project that can store workspaces content and mix them with documentation (still on alpha status). [1] http://moosetechnology.org/ [2] http://mutabit.com/offray/static/blog/output/posts/grafoscopio-idea-and-ini… May be taking a look of them could help you to explore solutions that fit you more. Cheers, Offray El 07/01/13 a las 07:43, Frank Church escribiÃ³: > Hi guys, > > My images are gathering a number of Workspaces whose contents I don't want to > delete. > > I want to create a collection of Workspace contents along this defintion: > > Description > Date > Category > Content (the actual text in the Workspace). > > In the final version I would like to be able to select a workspace and simply > click a button or a menu item and get a dialog where I can enter the > Description, Category and Date with the Workspace contents automatically > captured into a text box. Copying and pasting the contents would be okay to > start with. > > Filing it out would be another aspect later. > > What kind of array would best suited to the task? There is quite a number of > them depicted here: http://www.jmcsweeney.co.uk/computing/m206/collections_intro.php > > What could be the best way to go about it? > > For those who are curious I am experimenting with the original ideas of > Smalltalk where a computer user would do everything in Smalltalk > workspace/desktop. I am intrigued by the possibility and somehow it seems > eminently doable. > > -- > Frank Church > > ======================= > http://devblog.brahmancreations.com >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 31 janv. 2015 22:37, "Mircea S." <mircea(a)unom.ro> a Ã©crit : > > > Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous? > > Ex1: > > html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). > > html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). > > Ex2: > > html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. > > (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. > > The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and it's effect on syntax? > > PS. Especially in the last example. Mostly because that is how jQuery works. This is mapping the jQuery API. A good trick is to halt around those calls and inspect what the expression between parentheses gives. This helped me tremendously in understanding how jQuery worked with Seaside. Docs are quite shallow in that area but the system works very well. Check the tests and JQWidgetbox for a ton of samples. HTH Phil > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Autoformatting extisting packages

by Laura Risani

@Ben >> would an equivalent be to be able to programmatically perform the <Format> menu item that is on the editor menu? Thats a nice idea! I will try it. @Paul I wan't to reformat the methods. Not sure if you're implying that to format method's code is the responsibility of browsers, i haven't tought of it before, in that case i would agree with you. I've found out there is a class #RBPrettyPrintCodeRefactoring , i'll try to figure out if it would do the work Thank for your answers! Best, Laura On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:09 AM, Ben Coman <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > For lack of a better answer, would an equivalent be to be able to > programmatically perform the <Format> menu item that is on the editor menu? > > Here is how I learnt a lot about Pharo... > 1. Open the editor menu and bring up halos on the <Format> menu item. > (key modifier combination varies between OS platform) > 2. Click the spanner "debug" icon and choose <inspect morph> > 3. Look through all the instance vars for the message that seems to invoke > the formatting. Browse all implementors of that message adding "self halt" > at the top. > 4. Execute the command and trace through how its done behind the scenes, > and adapt to your requirements. > > HTH, cheers -ben > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Laura Risani <laura.risani(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> How do i apply autoformatting to existing packages? I've read somewhere >> that this functionality used to be at the refactoring menu, but i can't >> find it, don't know if it has been renamed or moved. >> >> Best, >> Laura >> > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous?

by Mircea S.

Seaside on Pharo - Why the weird jQuery integration syntax compared to Scriptaculous? Ex1: html scriptaculous sortable onUpdate: (html scriptaculous... etc). html jQuery new sortable onStop: (html jQuery... etc). Ex2: html scriptaculous effect id: helpId; toggleAppear. (html jQuery id: helpId) slideToggle: 1 seconds. The way jQuery and Scriptaculous were integrated 'seems' similar. Can anyone explain what design change took place between the two and it's effect on syntax? PS. Especially in the last example.

Jan. 31, 2015

Standalone GUI

by falzonidavide＠libero.it

Hi guys, How can I make a standalone pharo installation that starts on a GUI? About the gui: my first idea was to use Morphic, but then user has access to all the source code, am I right? Thanks Francis

Jan. 31, 2015

Pharo Shop

by Torsten Bergmann

What happened to the Pharo shop ... http://old.pharo-project.org/community/shop it's online but seems not be linked from the new webpage.

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Rule engine

by stepharo

> I would be curious to hear more about the various projects mentioned in this > thread. SOUL was a prolog with an extra term that unified method AST. Check Roel Wuyts, Andy Kellens, Johan Brichau At the VUB in the Soft (prog lab) previously the group was doing logic meta programming. Kris Gybels from the same group was working on Rete or may be this is Koen deRover. NeoPus was (not working anymore) a rule-based system that could use object for fact and change. I have the doc around if you want. Herve Verjus http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~HerveVerjus/SmallAI is a little project to support backward and forward chainer. > I am working on a constraint logic system that has been used as a > backend for a variety of inference systems in other languages. Can you explain a bit more? > > > Thanks, > Evan > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Rule-engine-tp4801671p4802961.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Jan. 31, 2015

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside - How do I install Scriptaculous on a clean Seaside install (via Configuration Browser) on Pharo?

by Mircea S.

For those looking to install jQuery into Seaside can use these: Gofer new url:'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside31/main'; package: 'Javascript-Core'; load. Gofer new url:'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside31/main'; package: 'JQuery-Core'; load. Gofer new url:'http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Seaside/Seaside31/main'; package: 'JQuery-UI'; load. "notice that there is no -Core on this last one, I don't know why" Pe 31 ian. 2015, la 16:23, Johan Brichau <johan(a)inceptive.be> a scris: > Hi Mircea, > > Pharoâs Configuration browser loads the default group of the Metacello configuration, which unfortunately was set to âCoreâ for Seaside 3.1. > So, you will need to load additional groups programmatically: > > (ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project version: #stable) load: #(âScriptaculousâ âJSONâ) > > If you want to get the list of possible groups to load, inspect: > > (ConfigurationOfSeaside3 project version: #stable) groups > > This is something we fixed for Seaside 3.2, where the default will load everything to help newcomers. > We prefer not to change the existing 3.1 configuration versions to not break existing uses, but itâs fixed in the upcoming version. > > Btw, Scriptaculous is really outdated. You will prefer to use jQuery and jQuery-UI (or any other JS frameworkâ¦) > > cheers > Johan > >> On 31 Jan 2015, at 15:01, Mircea S. <mircea(a)unom.ro> wrote: >> >> I used the method described here to install Seaside3 on Pharo. All is well, but Scriptaculous doesn't come preinstalled. How do I get it? >> >> Seaside3 : >> >> 1: Go to the configuration manager >> >> 2: Select the Seaside 3 configuration. Click on Install. >> >> 3: Wait while it loads. Takes a couple of minutes on an i7 and a decent network link. >> >> 4: Open a Workspace and start a ZincServerAdaptor on the port you like (here 8080): ZnZincServerAdaptor startOn: 8080. (then CMD+d for Do It) >> >> 7: Access Seaside from your browser. >> >> 8: Install Scriptaculous, but how? > >

Jan. 31, 2015