September 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

by Stephan Eggermont

Francois wrote: >I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. It would be a worthwhile initiative because it would make collaboration much easier for other projects too. I'm interested in looking into this. I have the impression there are many more users of Glorp who are very silent on the list (I know some) Stephan

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk platform

by Esteban Lorenzano

Smalltalk os platformName. On 05 Sep 2014, at 11:14, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > there is also "Smalltalk image platform", dont know if it makes any diffirence, looks same thing to me > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if they are similar but I would say: > > Smalltalk platform name > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Annick Fron <list(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > I have a bug on OldAlien on pharo 3 because it is asking > SmalltalkImage current platformName > > What is the replacement ? > Annick > > >

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a red box with text in a big font?

by Tim Mackinnon

Thanks everyone for all your follow up messages - Iâve learned quite a lot from such a simple question!!! With regards to the #fontName:size: being not very useful - is that something I should submit a fogbugz for (maybe there is one already there). Iâm thinking the Pharo way is to try and eliminate cruft where possible? Tim On 5 Sep 2014, at 10:37, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > As far as I can understand, this is because TextStyle is brain dead code when it comes to font selection (and fontName:size: is a useless API). > > (and now I can't write code in my Workspace in 4.0 because I get a DNU from the styler for every key I type :( :( :( ) > > This code correctly select the font. > > Morph new > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Sans Pro' pointSize: 110); > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWindow; > color: Color red > > Thierry > > 2014-09-05 10:45 GMT+02:00 PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>: > Hello > > > > I have played with this on Moose 5.0 (Pharo 3.0 update: #30854) on Windows 7 Pro. For me, it is necessary to include color:Color red after openInWindow to get the red background, as Thierry said. There is another puzzle, which is that the code does not respond in any linear way to changes in the font size. If you replace size: 75 with any number from 38 upwards, you get the same size of font. Change the size to 37 and there is a sharp reduction in size, and it changes in proportion for smaller numbers. Is there something different about this font? > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > > > From: Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] On Behalf Of Nicolai Hess > Sent: 05 September 2014 08:19 > To: Any question about pharo is welcome > Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a red box with text in a big font? > > > > 2014-09-05 8:43 GMT+02:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > > Yes there is that annoying thing with windows that set things bacl to white. Why is that indeed? > > Phil > > > > > > I can not reproduce this with this code: > Morph new > color:Color red; > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWindow > > The Morph is red! > > > > > > > > Le 4 sept. 2014 23:32, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > > > Le 04/09/2014 23:12, kilon alios a Ã©crit : > > but if I try to do openInWindow instead of openInWorld in the end it turns it to white box , why ? > > > > Adding the morph inside the window changes the morph color to white :( (What the heck?) > > If the color is changed after the openInWindow, then that works. > > Morph new > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWindow; > color: Color red > > > Thierry > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Thierry Goubier <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Le 04/09/2014 18:18, Tim Mackinnon a Ã©crit : > > Cool - thatâs handy to know it works somewhere (and in fact, it was when playing with GT-Inspector I noticed this - so that solution would work). > > > > Iâm still curious how you do it in Morphic? > > Like that: > > > > Morph new > color: Color red; > > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWorld > > Thierry > > > > > > > Tim > > > > On 4 Sep 2014, at 17:10, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > > Using Roassal, I would do: > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > v := RTView new. > > s := RTMultiCompositeShape new. > > s add: (RTBox new color: Color red; size: 500). > > s add: (RTLabel new height: 70). > > v add: (s elementOn: 'Hello World'). > > v open > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > <Screen Shot 2014-09-04 at 12.10.14 PM.png> > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > > > > Hi guys - Iâm a bit stumped on how to create things in big text with a set background colour. I thought I understood - but it just doesnât seem to work. > I was thinking I could create a container morph, set its background colour (which works), and then put a StringMorph inside it with a set font. This last bit I canât get to work - I can do bold, but not a bigger font size. Iâve tried different things but am missing the magic sauce - can someone spot my mistake? Below, Iâve tried using a font name that I can see in the Pharo settings dialog but it doesnât work? I also tried using LogicalFont with no success either. > > tMorph := StringMorph new. > font1 := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 24. > > tMorph contents: 'Hello World'; > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 24; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode. > > bMorph := Morph new > color: Color red; > addMorph: tMorph. > > bMorph openInWorld. > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

I have no idea how complicated this can be. I'm a bit reluctant to dive into this if we are only 2-3 people to use Glorp in Pharo. Guillermo, Mariano, what was the process when you imported Glorp in the first place? How did you keep up with Glorp latest changes (From what I see in Store, development is not too active)? On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Sven wrote: > >Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most > of it was basically done by hand. > >This creates a huge maintenance problem of course. The same is true for > Xtreams. > >Seaside seems to be able to manage this problem by being extremely > careful. > > We now have the infrastructure in place (CI) that supports a much better > approach. > We could use a vw image to download the current version from the public > store > and generate the platform-independent mczs from there. That of course > requires > changes to the VW code base to create and use platform classes. That is > similar to > what we did in the other direction with Parasol, what Roassal does and > Seaside. > If we make the (namespace) transformations explicit, we should be able to > sync > in two directions. > > Stephan > > > >

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a red box with text in a big font?

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Peter, As far as I can understand, this is because TextStyle is brain dead code when it comes to font selection (and fontName:size: is a useless API). (and now I can't write code in my Workspace in 4.0 because I get a DNU from the styler for every key I type :( :( :( ) This code correctly select the font. Morph new hResizing: #shrinkWrap; addMorph: ( 'Hello World' asMorph font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Source Sans Pro' pointSize: 110); emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); openInWindow; color: Color red Thierry 2014-09-05 10:45 GMT+02:00 PBKResearch <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>: > Hello > > > > I have played with this on Moose 5.0 (Pharo 3.0 update: #30854) on Windows > 7 Pro. For me, it is necessary to include color:Color red after > openInWindow to get the red background, as Thierry said. There is another > puzzle, which is that the code does not respond in any linear way to > changes in the font size. If you replace size: 75 with any number from 38 > upwards, you get the same size of font. Change the size to 37 and there is > a sharp reduction in size, and it changes in proportion for smaller > numbers. Is there something different about this font? > > > > Peter Kenny > > > > > > *From:* Pharo-users [mailto:pharo-users-bounces@lists.pharo.org] *On > Behalf Of *Nicolai Hess > *Sent:* 05 September 2014 08:19 > *To:* Any question about pharo is welcome > *Subject:* Re: [Pharo-users] How to create a red box with text in a big > font? > > > > 2014-09-05 8:43 GMT+02:00 phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > > Yes there is that annoying thing with windows that set things bacl to > white. Why is that indeed? > > Phil > > > > > > I can not reproduce this with this code: > Morph new > color:Color red; > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWindow > > The Morph is red! > > > > > > > Le 4 sept. 2014 23:32, "Thierry Goubier" <thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> a > Ã©crit : > > > > Le 04/09/2014 23:12, kilon alios a Ã©crit : > > but if I try to do openInWindow instead of openInWorld in the end it turns > it to white box , why ? > > > > Adding the morph inside the window changes the morph color to white :( > (What the heck?) > > If the color is changed after the openInWindow, then that works. > > Morph new > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWindow; > color: Color red > > > Thierry > > > > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Thierry Goubier < > thierry.goubier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Le 04/09/2014 18:18, Tim Mackinnon a Ã©crit : > > Cool - that's handy to know it works somewhere (and in fact, it was when > playing with GT-Inspector I noticed this - so that solution would work). > > > > I'm still curious how you do it in Morphic? > > Like that: > > > > Morph new > color: Color red; > > hResizing: #shrinkWrap; > addMorph: ( > 'Hello World' asMorph > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 75; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode); > openInWorld > > Thierry > > > > > > Tim > > > > On 4 Sep 2014, at 17:10, Alexandre Bergel <alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> wrote: > > > > Using Roassal, I would do: > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > v := RTView new. > > s := RTMultiCompositeShape new. > > s add: (RTBox new color: Color red; size: 500). > > s add: (RTLabel new height: 70). > > v add: (s elementOn: 'Hello World'). > > v open > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > > <Screen Shot 2014-09-04 at 12.10.14 PM.png> > > > > Cheers, > > Alexandre > > > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:27 AM, Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works> wrote: > > > > Hi guys - I'm a bit stumped on how to create things in big text with a set > background colour. I thought I understood - but it just doesn't seem to > work. > I was thinking I could create a container morph, set its background colour > (which works), and then put a StringMorph inside it with a set font. This > last bit I can't get to work - I can do bold, but not a bigger font size. > I've tried different things but am missing the magic sauce - can someone > spot my mistake? Below, I've tried using a font name that I can see in the > Pharo settings dialog but it doesn't work? I also tried using LogicalFont > with no success either. > > tMorph := StringMorph new. > font1 := LogicalFont familyName: 'Arial' pointSize: 24. > > tMorph contents: 'Hello World'; > fontName: 'Open Sans' size: 24; > emphasis: TextEmphasis bold emphasisCode. > > bMorph := Morph new > color: Color red; > addMorph: tMorph. > > bMorph openInWorld. > > > Tim > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Glorp 1.7 <-> VisualWorks

by Stephan Eggermont

Sven wrote: >Porting something cross platform is a huge amount of work, I think most of it was basically done by hand. >This creates a huge maintenance problem of course. The same is true for Xtreams. >Seaside seems to be able to manage this problem by being extremely careful. We now have the infrastructure in place (CI) that supports a much better approach. We could use a vw image to download the current version from the public store and generate the platform-independent mczs from there. That of course requires changes to the VW code base to create and use platform classes. That is similar to what we did in the other direction with Parasol, what Roassal does and Seaside. If we make the (namespace) transformations explicit, we should be able to sync in two directions. Stephan

Sept. 5, 2014

Using Playground on Pharo 3.0

by PBKResearch

Hello I have been playing with Moose 5.0 (Pharo 3.0 update: #30854) on Windows 7 Pro, trying to copy and paste code from e-mails in another thread. However, if I open a Playground (which is what I get when I click 'Workspace' in the World Menu), I find that the right click menu does not have any options for copy or paste. The window responds to Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V as expected, so I can get round it, but it is inconvenient. I have checked older versions (e.g. Moose 4.9), and there the Workspace has a full right click menu. Did I do something wrong in downloading Moose 5.0 (on 23 Aug 2014)? I am a beginner with Pharo, so any help would be appreciated. Peter Kenny

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk platform

by kilon alios

there is also "Smalltalk image platform", dont know if it makes any diffirence, looks same thing to me On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I don't know if they are similar but I would say: > > Smalltalk platform name > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Annick Fron <list(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > >> I have a bug on OldAlien on pharo 3 because it is asking >> SmalltalkImage current platformName >> >> What is the replacement ? >> Annick >> >> >

Sept. 5, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk platform

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

I don't know if they are similar but I would say: Smalltalk platform name On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:54 AM, Annick Fron <list(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > I have a bug on OldAlien on pharo 3 because it is asking > SmalltalkImage current platformName > > What is the replacement ? > Annick > >

Sept. 5, 2014

Smalltalk platform

by Annick Fron

I have a bug on OldAlien on pharo 3 because it is asking SmalltalkImage current platformName What is the replacement ? Annick

Sept. 5, 2014