August 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I create a personal slice?

by Ben Coman

Aug. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I create a personal slice?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hi Ben - Iâm familiar with what you describe, and I guess I will have a poke. I have noticed I can type - 0000, and put some text like âPersonâMyChanges-descriptionâ - so maybe I should just do that in my repo? Seanâs suggestion of a change set is a decent fallback, however given we have code repositories it seems right to want to flag a group of packages together to easily reload. No-one has mentioned metacello - so Iâm assuming that is more heavy-weight than what I should need right? Tim On 10 Aug 2014, at 02:15, Ben Coman <btc(a)openInWorld.com> wrote: > Tim Mackinnon wrote: >> Hi - i was playing around with some changes in a few packages to see if I can make a contribution to PharoLauncher. >> >> I want to version my spikes, in case I trash my image - but Iâm not yet ready to propose anything to commit yet. While I can version each of the dirty packages - how can I group them to load them in one go? I thought maybe I could make a quick personal slice - store it in my personal file disk repository and then load it again if something goes wrong or I want to revert. However it seems that to create a slice I need a Fogbugz number - which seems more like Iâm ready to contribute? Canât I make a personal slice? Or is this where I have to use Metacello? >> >> Tim >> >> > > I believe you currently can't make a personal slice, but I've also thought it would be useful. > > Now here is a tip to explore the system. Bring up the halos on the "grab" but clicking three times until you get to the PluggableButtonMorph, then click the "Debug" spanner icon and choose "Inspect Morph" from the menu. Scroll through the instance variables until you see something that looks like it indicates what happens when the button is pushed. Various mechanisms are used and I don't remember them between times I do this. In this case it looks like 'actionSelector' is sued, but I also see 'actionBlock' and I think sometimes its something else. Put a halt in the called method, click the button and trace through to see how it works. Modify to suit your needs. > > cheers -ben > > > >

Aug. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I create a personal slice?

by Ben Coman

Tim Mackinnon wrote: > Hi - i was playing around with some changes in a few packages to see if I can make a contribution to PharoLauncher. > > I want to version my spikes, in case I trash my image - but Iâm not yet ready to propose anything to commit yet. While I can version each of the dirty packages - how can I group them to load them in one go? I thought maybe I could make a quick personal slice - store it in my personal file disk repository and then load it again if something goes wrong or I want to revert. However it seems that to create a slice I need a Fogbugz number - which seems more like Iâm ready to contribute? Canât I make a personal slice? Or is this where I have to use Metacello? > > Tim > > I believe you currently can't make a personal slice, but I've also thought it would be useful. Now here is a tip to explore the system. Bring up the halos on the "grab" but clicking three times until you get to the PluggableButtonMorph, then click the "Debug" spanner icon and choose "Inspect Morph" from the menu. Scroll through the instance variables until you see something that looks like it indicates what happens when the button is pushed. Various mechanisms are used and I don't remember them between times I do this. In this case it looks like 'actionSelector' is sued, but I also see 'actionBlock' and I think sometimes its something else. Put a halt in the called method, click the button and trace through to see how it works. Modify to suit your needs. cheers -ben

Aug. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Can I create a personal slice?

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tim Mackinnon wrote > I want to version my spikes, in case I trash my image - but Iâm not yet > ready to propose anything to commit yet. While I can version each of the > dirty packages - how can I group them to load them in one go? I often make old fashioned changesets for this via the changes browser for that type of scenario ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Can-I-create-a-personal-slice-tp4772638p4772649.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Categorise method defaults?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-08-09 11:23 GMT-03:00 Tim Mackinnon <tim(a)testit.works>: > When using Pharo 4.0 - if I create a new class (subclass of Object) and then create a new class method for constructing that instance - when I try to classify the method why is the list of possibilities empty? > > In old versions of squeak I recall there was a list of possibilities already in the image to choose from? I was expecting âinstance creationâ to be there already for me? > > Am i missing something? Nope. You're not missing anything. And it's been the same in Pharo 3 and 2 (AFAIR). This "categorization" issue was discussed before, with pointers to "category suggestion algorithms", but nothing has happened. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo

Aug. 9, 2014

Can I create a personal slice?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hi - i was playing around with some changes in a few packages to see if I can make a contribution to PharoLauncher. I want to version my spikes, in case I trash my image - but Iâm not yet ready to propose anything to commit yet. While I can version each of the dirty packages - how can I group them to load them in one go? I thought maybe I could make a quick personal slice - store it in my personal file disk repository and then load it again if something goes wrong or I want to revert. However it seems that to create a slice I need a Fogbugz number - which seems more like Iâm ready to contribute? Canât I make a personal slice? Or is this where I have to use Metacello? Tim

Aug. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Any thoughts on improving MC browser?

by Ben Coman

Tim Mackinnon wrote: > I was just about to ask how do I compare two arbitrary versions in Monticello - as I canât multiselect - until I realised that the Diff button prompts you for a version against what you have currently selected. This is a very weird UI experience. Now that we seem to have multi-select widgets - are there any proposals to improve MC? > > Tim > > In a Repository, select a package version then try the <History> button to compare changes to any previous version. cheers -ben

Aug. 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher can only run 1 instance on OSX?

by Ben Coman

Aug. 9, 2014

The tedious split between class and instance?

by Tim Mackinnon

The more I use Pharo again - the more it strikes me how tedious it is to have to flip between instance and class side definitions. For example - if I create a new class with an instance variable, and then in my class constructor method decide that it would be handy to do: ^self new children: items; yourself But I donât yet have the #children: method - if I select the create accessors refactoring (while still looking at my class method) - it does nothing because I have an instance variable not a class variable. So I have to switch to the instance side, to use this refactoring and then flip back to writing my class method. This is really tedious - we really should find a better way to do this, as it eats away at your programming flow. Itâs not the language - its the toolsâ¦ Tim

Aug. 9, 2014

Categorise method defaults?

by Tim Mackinnon

When using Pharo 4.0 - if I create a new class (subclass of Object) and then create a new class method for constructing that instance - when I try to classify the method why is the list of possibilities empty? In old versions of squeak I recall there was a list of possibilities already in the image to choose from? I was expecting âinstance creationâ to be there already for me? Am i missing something? Tim

Aug. 9, 2014