July 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Nicolai Hess

2014-07-09 23:08 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com>: > Just to clarify - should I just submit for 4.0 and make a note that it > applies to 3.0 and then you guys can make a duplicate? > > Or should I make a duplicate? If its me - how do I duplicate a bug in > fogbugz - I can't see an option to do it (and would expect it to link the > two) > > Tim > > Just submit for 4.0 and make a note about 3.0. I don't know if it is possible to duplicate an entry. > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

Just to clarify - should I just submit for 4.0 and make a note that it applies to 3.0 and then you guys can make a duplicate? Or should I make a duplicate? If its me - how do I duplicate a bug in fogbugz - I can't see an option to do it (and would expect it to link the two) Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

OK - will do. I am finding that Nautilus in Pharo 3 is very flakey - its very easy to get into a position where you cant select anything in the package or class pane - and you just get walkbacks making it unusable. I'm surprised its not been noticed already. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building UI with Spec vs Pharo

by Johan Fabry

I see. Well, I think that given your long term goal the safest choice is to go with Spec, as it will provide you with more features that may be useful for your use case. On Jul 9, 2014, at 12:49 PM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Well for the moment a diagram drawing tool (Class diagrams/State machines/...), however the end goal (in a time and space far far away) is a CASE tool. So for the moment I need a visualization (provided by Roassal), some way to display hierarchical/tree data, forms, popups and such (basically what I mentioned in previous post). > > Peter > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi Peter, > > Spec is a user interface framework that is meant to be able to create any kind of user interface. On the other hand Glamour is meant for browser-like user interfaces where there is a flow from one element to another. So the answer is: it depends on what you want to do. > > Could you tell us what is it that you are trying to build? > > > On Jul 9, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Peter UhnÃ¡k <i.uhnak(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > what is the recommended framework for building UIs? As I understand it Spec should be able to handle pretty much anything, however Glamour has quite a lot of nice features and was recommended here http://forum.world.st/Roassal-amp-Spec-td4690745.html as a higher-level abstraction framework (albeit the issue here was mostly Roassal which as I understand is a non issue since there is Roassal2Spec package). However I haven't seen things like forms (text inputs, checkboxes, (radio)selects, buttons) or popups (yes/no confirmations, prompts) made in Glamour so I am unsure whether it is possible. > > > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Marcus Denker

On 09 Jul 2014, at 18:15, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Actually - I've realised that there is a simple thing that would be helpful > on the http://pharo.org/download page. > > Where it mentions the Zero Conf script and the Hacker Downloads section > points to the "(Read the ZeroConf chapter on http://www.deepintopharo.com)" > - it would be much more useful if they also mentioned there are docs on > "http://get.pharo.org/" > > That would have fixed my problem. > Ok, I will do a pass over the page and add this tomorrow. Marcus

July 9, 2014

Voyage: default class to collection mapping

by Torsten Bergmann

Voyage by default provides this: voyageCollectionName "This method can be overridden with a more meaningful collection name" ^ ((self persistentClass name first: 3) allSatisfy: #isUppercase) ifTrue: [ (self persistentClass name allButFirst: 2) asLegalSelector ] ifFalse: [ self persistentClass name asLegalSelector ] So a class name like Association will end up in a mongo collection like "association". But a class name with a prefix like "PDFLetter" will end up in a mongo collection name like "fLetter". Is there a reason for this specific default behavior and not having the class name (by default) as the collection name in mongo? I know I can override the method - but I wonder why it is treated specially also leading to potential conflicts: PDFLetter voyageCollectionName -> #fLetter FLetter voyageCollectionName -> #fLetter Thx T.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Nicolai Hess

2014-07-09 21:48 GMT+02:00 Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com>: > I've also noticed I keep getting re-prompted to enter my username when I > save > source (this is a very fresh image) - I think it may be because I've just > saved comments and class methods so far - but its prompted me several times > now for my name? > > Should I report steps for this? > Yes please report steps to reproduce this. And the other two bugs you described in the other mail. Please try to reproduce them with Pharo4.0 and report for that version at first. If they are serious or important or if there is a high demand for pharo3 users, we should open another bug entry for pharo3.0 too. regards nicolai > > Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Yuriy Tymchuk

You are welcome. I think that original author Damien Cassou will appreciate tweaks :) Uko On 09 Jul 2014, at 21:50, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Uko - just tried Pharo launcher and its actually pretty good. I already > have a few ideas for little tweaks so maybe I may be able to contribute > something when I get a bit better. > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > Tim > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-download-Pharo40-tp4766797p4767287.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] How to download Pharo40?

by Tim Mackinnon

Hey Uko - just tried Pharo launcher and its actually pretty good. I already have a few ideas for little tweaks so maybe I may be able to contribute something when I get a bit better. Thanks for pointing it out. Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-download-Pharo40-tp4766797p4767287.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Should I be reporting bugs in Pharo 3.0?

by Tim Mackinnon

I've also noticed I keep getting re-prompted to enter my username when I save source (this is a very fresh image) - I think it may be because I've just saved comments and class methods so far - but its prompted me several times now for my name? Should I report steps for this? Tim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Should-I-be-reporting-bugs-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4767284p476… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

July 9, 2014