June 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by Tudor Girba

Hi, The work on GToolkit goes in this direction. Funny enough, we also have a Playground :). Look here for an example: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/dynamic-exploration-of-a-postgres-db-… More will come in this direction. I happen to believe that this is the area with the largest potential in Pharo, and it would be great to put more effort around it. If people have an interest to participate, please just let me know. Cheers, Doru On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:02 AM, darrinm <darrin(a)massena.com> wrote: > Here's an example of the Playground in use: > > https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/recipes/xcode_help-sourc… > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425p4761431.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Yeah looks cool. Just a step further, no revolution though. The fact that for each statement Playground will immediately show its results next to the code, makes programming a bit easier. I wonder how/if this works for code that does not define all its values with let statements ;-). But I guess this is why it's a playground and not the debugger/code editor. Because if the values to "inspect" are parameters to a method, this won't work as nicely. But I can see how Apple's Playground could be a nice addition to Smalltalk's workspaces. This probably isn't even too much work... I look forward to seeing the first prototypes of a Smalltalk Playground ;-) Joachim Am 03.06.14 09:02, schrieb darrinm: > Here's an example of the Playground in use: > https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/recipes/xcode_help-sourc… > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425p4761431.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by ClÃ©ment Bera

2014-06-03 8:40 GMT+02:00 jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de>: > I remember seeing a demo of F# at an Eclipse conference a few years ago. > It also very much reminded me of Smalltalk. > > What's interesting about swift is not only that Apple chose an existing > name for their new programming language (interesting for a company that is > very careful about their own brand names), but that swift seems to be > statically typed, while one of the biggest advantages of Objective-C is > that it allows for dynamic typing (to some extent)... > To what I understand, types are inferred, it is not statically typed. Am I wrong ? Clement > > Joachim > > Am 03.06.14 08:33, schrieb darrinm: > > This is the sort of thing Smalltalk seems well suited for (live coding w/ >> value and iteration display). Does anyone know of something like it that >> has >> been done before in Smalltalk? >> >> I don't have a good link to a demonstration purely of the Playground but >> there is a little info here: https://developer.apple.com/swift/ >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s- >> Swift-Playground-tp4761425.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > >

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by darrinm

Here's an example of the Playground in use: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/recipes/xcode_help-sourc… -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425p4761431.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Sent from my iPhone > On 03 Jun 2014, at 12:03, darrinm <darrin(a)massena.com> wrote: > > This is the sort of thing Smalltalk seems well suited for (live coding w/ > value and iteration display). Does anyone know of something like it that has > been done before in Smalltalk? Look, this video was done a year ago https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu_C0ldSqrs. Yes, not as fancy, but it's a game programming with live feedback. Now there is also GToolkit that provides an interactive way of programming and so on. Uko > > I don't have a good link to a demonstration purely of the Playground but > there is a little info here: https://developer.apple.com/swift/ > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xcode's Swift Playground

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

I remember seeing a demo of F# at an Eclipse conference a few years ago. It also very much reminded me of Smalltalk. What's interesting about swift is not only that Apple chose an existing name for their new programming language (interesting for a company that is very careful about their own brand names), but that swift seems to be statically typed, while one of the biggest advantages of Objective-C is that it allows for dynamic typing (to some extent)... Joachim Am 03.06.14 08:33, schrieb darrinm: > This is the sort of thing Smalltalk seems well suited for (live coding w/ > value and iteration display). Does anyone know of something like it that has > been done before in Smalltalk? > > I don't have a good link to a demonstration purely of the Playground but > there is a little info here: https://developer.apple.com/swift/ > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

June 3, 2014

Xcode's Swift Playground

by darrinm

This is the sort of thing Smalltalk seems well suited for (live coding w/ value and iteration display). Does anyone know of something like it that has been done before in Smalltalk? I don't have a good link to a demonstration purely of the Playground but there is a little info here: https://developer.apple.com/swift/ -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Xcode-s-Swift-Playground-tp4761425.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 3, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSON mapping of nil properties

by stepharo

and now available as pdf and html in the pfte project :) https://github.com/SquareBracketAssociates/PharoForTheEnterprise-english and https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoForTheEnterprise/lastSucces… Stef

June 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSON mapping of nil properties

by stepharo

found it and converting it to pillar https://github.com/svenvc/docs/blob/master/neo/neo-json-paper.md Stef On 2/6/14 22:19, stepharo wrote: > Sven I added a section to new empty chapter on NeoJSON :) > Do you have a doc about NeoJSON that I can use to fill up the chapter :) > > > On 29/5/14 14:39, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: >> 2014-05-28 16:03 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: >>> Hi Esteban, >>> >>> Your wish is my command ;-) >>> >>> In #bleedingEdge you can now do: >>> >>> String streamContents: [ :stream | >>> (NeoJSONWriter on: stream) >>> writeNil: true; >>> mapAllInstVarsFor: Point; >>> nextPut: Point new. >>> >>> which will give you: >>> >>> {"x":null,"y":null} >>> >>> instead of: >>> >>> {} >>> >>> which remains the default. >> Thank you Sven! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Esteban A. Maringolo >> >> > > >

June 2, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] NeoJSON mapping of nil properties

by stepharo

Sven I added a section to new empty chapter on NeoJSON :) Do you have a doc about NeoJSON that I can use to fill up the chapter :) On 29/5/14 14:39, Esteban A. Maringolo wrote: > 2014-05-28 16:03 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: >> Hi Esteban, >> >> Your wish is my command ;-) >> >> In #bleedingEdge you can now do: >> >> String streamContents: [ :stream | >> (NeoJSONWriter on: stream) >> writeNil: true; >> mapAllInstVarsFor: Point; >> nextPut: Point new. >> >> which will give you: >> >> {"x":null,"y":null} >> >> instead of: >> >> {} >> >> which remains the default. > Thank you Sven! > > > > > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > >

June 2, 2014