June 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by stepharo

On 28/6/14 22:43, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: > Yes , Phil. I recover my work using the .changes file of corrupted > image and I recover my work with "Recover lost changes" tool. > Thanks a lot! Good. Save your work on SmalltalkHUb or related. > > > > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *phil(a)highoctane.be > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 16:18:52 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under > Windows (do not know about the other platforms). > > Phil > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli > <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time > working from a .changes file with an editor. > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *phil(a)highoctane.be <mailto:phil@highoctane.be> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a > dead/frozen image. > > But it was no 3.0 > > It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked > out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and > making the image closing after opening. > > One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an > integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. > > Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! > > Now, images should not freeze. > And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. > > I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in > the FTP Monticello code. > > Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under > specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. > > For commercial work these things are important. > > Phil > > > > > > > Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" > <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> a Ã©crit : > > From where can i download oz for pharo 3? > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of > my old image to a fresh one? > > TIA > > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 > *Asunto: *[Pharo-users] image crash > > My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus > right-click menu does not work. > In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes > by code not by menu. > My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? > > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > > > > >

June 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by stepharo

Phil there is no magic. We cannot clone people and we should pay people also and our backlog is quite large. Stef On 28/6/14 18:10, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a > dead/frozen image. > > But it was no 3.0 > > It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of > an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the > image closing after opening. > > One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration > script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. > > Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! > > Now, images should not freeze. > And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. > > I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the > FTP Monticello code. > > Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under > specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. > why this is like that in many smalltalk VM if I'M correct. > For commercial work these things are important. > > Phil > > > > > > Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> a Ã©crit : > > From where can i download oz for pharo 3? > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my > old image to a fresh one? > > TIA > > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com>> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" > <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org <mailto:pharo-users@lists.pharo.org>> > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 > *Asunto: *[Pharo-users] image crash > > My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click > menu does not work. > In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by > code not by menu. > My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? > > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > <mailto:pdigonzelli@softsargentina.com> > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com <mailto:pdigonzelli@gmail.com> > Cel: 5493815982714 > > >

June 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by stepharo

Normally you can replay your changes. Do not do that from an editor. What you can try is to get a new image + changes and copy your changes files rto erase the new change file and try a "recover lost change" (in the tools menu). Now can you open monticello? On 28/6/14 15:42, Pablo R. Digonzelli wrote: > My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu > does not work. > In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code > not by menu. > My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? > > > TIA > > **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 >

June 29, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

Yes , Phil. I recover my work using the .changes file of corrupted image and I recover my work with "Recover lost changes" tool. Thanks a lot! Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: phil(a)highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 16:18:52 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do not know about the other platforms). Phil On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > wrote: I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a .changes file with an editor. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: phil(a)highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > a Ã©crit : <blockquote> >From where can i download oz for pharo 3? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 </blockquote>

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by phil＠highoctane.be

Drag and drop of a changes file on a pharo window does work under Windows (do not know about the other platforms). Phil On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 8:52 PM, Pablo R. Digonzelli <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from > a .changes file with an editor. > > TIA > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------ > *De: *phil(a)highoctane.be > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > > > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen > image. > > But it was no 3.0 > > It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an > image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image > closing after opening. > > One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script > helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. > > Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! > > Now, images should not freeze. > And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. > > I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP > Monticello code. > > Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc > conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. > > For commercial work these things are important. > > Phil > > > > > > Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> a > Ã©crit : > >> From where can i download oz for pharo 3? >> >> TIA >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* >> Software Solutions >> IP-Solutiones SRL >> Metrotec SRL >> 25 de Mayo 521 >> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com >> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com >> Cel: 5493815982714 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> >> *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" < >> pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 >> *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash >> >> I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image >> to a fresh one? >> >> TIA >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* >> Software Solutions >> IP-Solutiones SRL >> Metrotec SRL >> 25 de Mayo 521 >> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com >> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com >> Cel: 5493815982714 >> >> ------------------------------ >> *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> >> *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" < >> pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> >> *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 >> *Asunto: *[Pharo-users] image crash >> >> My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu >> does not work. >> In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not >> by menu. >> My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? >> >> >> TIA >> >> ------------------------------ >> *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* >> Software Solutions >> IP-Solutiones SRL >> Metrotec SRL >> 25 de Mayo 521 >> Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com >> pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com >> Cel: 5493815982714 >> >> >> >> >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

I think i will recover my work but it will take a lot of time working from a .changes file with an editor. TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: phil(a)highoctane.be Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 13:10:14 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > a Ã©crit : >From where can i download oz for pharo 3? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" < pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" < pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by phil＠highoctane.be

Guille once sent me an image that he used to help me solve a dead/frozen image. But it was no 3.0 It is frustrating that Oz is not more available as I got locked out of an image this week due to a socket primitive failing and making the image closing after opening. One lesson is that images are not stable things. And an integration script helping rebuild it all from scratch is key. Thanks to Sebastian Sastre to have helped me among that path! Now, images should not freeze. And failing primitives on sockets should not lock one out. I'll have a look at the VM to see why this one happens. It was in the FTP Monticello code. Also the fact that one cannot interrupt the VM in bytecode under specifc conditions - no back jumps - makes me very nervous. For commercial work these things are important. Phil Le 28 juin 2014 16:25, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > From where can i download oz for pharo 3? > > TIA > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > > > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 > *Asunto: *Re: [Pharo-users] image crash > > I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image > to a fresh one? > > TIA > > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ------------------------------ > *De: *"Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> > *Para: *"Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org > > > *Enviados: *SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 > *Asunto: *[Pharo-users] image crash > > My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does > not work. > In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not > by menu. > My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? > > > TIA > > ------------------------------ > *Ing. Pablo Digonzelli* > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > > >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 28 juin 2014 16:03, "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? Yes. Copy it over the new changes file and try 'recover changes' from the world menu. Maybe drag and drop works too. Phil > > TIA > > > ________________________________ > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > > ________________________________ > De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> > Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> > Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 > Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash > > > My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. > In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. > My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? > > > TIA > > ________________________________ > Ing. Pablo Digonzelli > Software Solutions > IP-Solutiones SRL > Metrotec SRL > 25 de Mayo 521 > Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com > pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com > Cel: 5493815982714 > >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

>From where can i download oz for pharo 3? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 11:03:32 Asunto: Re: [Pharo-users] image crash I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] image crash

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

I want to know if there is a way to apply a .changes file of my old image to a fresh one? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714 ----- Mensaje original ----- De: "Pablo R. Digonzelli" <pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com> Para: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.pharo.org> Enviados: SÃ¡bado, 28 de Junio 2014 10:42:31 Asunto: [Pharo-users] image crash My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

June 28, 2014

image crash

by Pablo R. Digonzelli

My image is crashing an close suddendly. In Nautilus right-click menu does not work. In order to start on a new image i need to fileout my classes by code not by menu. My question is how can i fileout a class from the workspace ? TIA Ing. Pablo Digonzelli Software Solutions IP-Solutiones SRL Metrotec SRL 25 de Mayo 521 Email: pdigonzelli(a)softsargentina.com pdigonzelli(a)gmail.com Cel: 5493815982714

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by David T. Lewis

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 08:19:41AM +0200, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Le 28 juin 2014 01:18, "David T. Lewis" <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> a ??crit : > > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:50:11PM +0200, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > > Thanks. > > > > > > But this would give me the 200 last chars. I am interested in the 200 > last > > > lines. > > > > > > Now, I did this: > > > > > > command := 'tac ', file fullName, ' | head -200'. > > > ^ (PipeableOSProcess command: command) output. > > > > > > which did the trick but isn't portable at all (Linux here). > > > > <OT> > > Don't forget to close the pipes on that PipeableOSProcess when you are > done using it :-) > > </OT> > > Isn't output closing them? Command is a complete string here. > No, one pipe handle will still be open. Use #closePipes to close it. PipeableOSProcess is designed to participate in a "pipeline" of commands, and in that environment each element of the pipeline is responsible for closing the pipe from its predecessor. Dave

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactoring project

by Yuriy Tymchuk

I guess this one http://files.pharo.org/media/PharoSoftwareDistributionAgreement.pdf Cheers Uko On 28 Jun 2014, at 09:58, Mark Rizun <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'll do that on Tuesday, because I'm not home at the moment. > Which licence agreement I have to sign? > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Refactoring-project-tp4765403p4765416.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about sets

by Hilaire Fernandes

Steph, It could be nice to add Alain's MathsOntologie as a success story, a nice example about what you can easily do with Pharo in the education sector Hilaire Le 28/06/2014 09:17, Alain Busser a Ã©crit : > oui, c'est ici: http://irem.univ-reunion.fr/spip.php?rubrique140 > > Avec un lien de tÃ©lÃ©chargement: > https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10996692/MathsOntologie.zip > > btw I still plan to port it to Pharo3... -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu iStoa - https://launchpad.net/istoa

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactoring project

by Mark Rizun

I'll do that on Tuesday, because I'm not home at the moment. Which licence agreement I have to sign? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Refactoring-project-tp4765403p4765416.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Refactoring project

by stepharo

Excellent. Mark you should create a bug entry on fogbuz and like that we will review and integrate your improvements! I want them :) You should sign the license agreement too :) On 28/6/14 09:12, Mark Rizun wrote: > I'm making first small steps in my refactoring project. It is described on my > blog: http://myfuncoding.blogspot.com <http://myfuncoding.blogspot.com> > I know it's not much, but it's something :-) > > Regards, > Mark > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Refactoring-project-tp4765403.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about sets

by Alain Busser

oui, c'est ici: http://irem.univ-reunion.fr/spip.php?rubrique140 Avec un lien de tÃ©lÃ©chargement: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10996692/MathsOntologie.zip btw I still plan to port it to Pharo3... Alain On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 10:24 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > Fun French Smalltalk. > > Il y a une version dispo? > > Phil > Le 25 juin 2014 18:33, "Alain Busser" <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > About the birthday problem, I already pulished something that I had >> exeperimented in the classroom, but it is in French: >> http://irem.univ-reunion.fr/spip.php?article618 (clic on "problÃ¨me des >> anniversaires" tab). The idea is that if you add say 30 times a "365 >> atRandom" to a bag (instead of a set) it happens now and then that a number >> appear more than once. In this classroom, two students actually had the >> same birthday, and they were eager to know of it happens often, so that >> they were very active for this exercise. >> >> Happy reading ;-) >> >> Alain >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM, hilaire <hfern(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> Alain, >>> >>> I love very much your cultural insight and I would like to see more >>> examples >>> like this one applied to Dr. Geo scripting or Smalltalk sketches. >>> Personally, I don't have the time to both develop Dr. Geo *and* to >>> investigate such examples; contributions like yours are more than >>> welcome. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Hilaire >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/A-question-about-sets-tp4763094p4764640.html >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >>

June 28, 2014

Refactoring project

by Mark Rizun

I'm making first small steps in my refactoring project. It is described on my blog: http://myfuncoding.blogspot.com <http://myfuncoding.blogspot.com> I know it's not much, but it's something :-) Regards, Mark -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Refactoring-project-tp4765403.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about sets

by phil＠highoctane.be

Fun French Smalltalk. Il y a une version dispo? Phil Le 25 juin 2014 18:33, "Alain Busser" <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > About the birthday problem, I already pulished something that I had > exeperimented in the classroom, but it is in French: > http://irem.univ-reunion.fr/spip.php?article618 (clic on "problÃ¨me des > anniversaires" tab). The idea is that if you add say 30 times a "365 > atRandom" to a bag (instead of a set) it happens now and then that a number > appear more than once. In this classroom, two students actually had the > same birthday, and they were eager to know of it happens often, so that > they were very active for this exercise. > > Happy reading ;-) > > Alain > > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:10 PM, hilaire <hfern(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> Alain, >> >> I love very much your cultural insight and I would like to see more >> examples >> like this one applied to Dr. Geo scripting or Smalltalk sketches. >> Personally, I don't have the time to both develop Dr. Geo *and* to >> investigate such examples; contributions like yours are more than welcome. >> >> Thanks >> >> Hilaire >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/A-question-about-sets-tp4763094p4764640.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by phil＠highoctane.be

Le 28 juin 2014 01:18, "David T. Lewis" <lewis(a)mail.msen.com> a Ã©crit : > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:50:11PM +0200, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > Thanks. > > > > But this would give me the 200 last chars. I am interested in the 200 last > > lines. > > > > Now, I did this: > > > > command := 'tac ', file fullName, ' | head -200'. > > ^ (PipeableOSProcess command: command) output. > > > > which did the trick but isn't portable at all (Linux here). > > <OT> > Don't forget to close the pipes on that PipeableOSProcess when you are done using it :-) > </OT> Isn't output closing them? Command is a complete string here. Phil > > Dave > >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about sets

by Alain Busser

You're right but it should not have a fixed length because I want to remove numbers from it. I guess an SortedCollection is the best way to retrieve the next prime number. And the exercise is a good way to discover select and reject... Alain On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:41 PM, hilaire <hfern(a)free.fr> wrote: > Why do you need a set for that? An array is enough. > But please go on. > > Hilaire > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/A-question-about-sets-tp4763094p4765282.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

June 28, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by David T. Lewis

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:50:11PM +0200, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Thanks. > > But this would give me the 200 last chars. I am interested in the 200 last > lines. > > Now, I did this: > > command := 'tac ', file fullName, ' | head -200'. > ^ (PipeableOSProcess command: command) output. > > which did the trick but isn't portable at all (Linux here). <OT> Don't forget to close the pipes on that PipeableOSProcess when you are done using it :-) </OT> Dave

June 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164597/how-would-you-implement-tail-ef… http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/tail.c I would work with the growing buffer read backwards. It would be great fun doing that in Pharo. On 27 Jun 2014, at 18:50, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Thanks. > > But this would give me the 200 last chars. I am interested in the 200 last lines. > > Now, I did this: > > command := 'tac ', file fullName, ' | head -200'. > ^ (PipeableOSProcess command: command) output. > > which did the trick but isn't portable at all (Linux here). > > I had a look at RemoteString as well. > > Phil > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > If you have a MultiByteFileStream you can do > > stream position: stream size - 200. > stream next: 200. > > Have a look at RemoteString, which is the class used to read the source from the source and changes files (without loading all of them into memory) > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:15 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > I wonder how you guys would read the last n lines from a file in Pharo without reading through the whole thing. > > Is there code doing just that somewhere? > > The code I have is a shell script doing a 'tac file | tail -200 > /temp/something' > > I can always do that through OSProcess but wondered if there was something available. > > Reading through with a 200-entries FIFO circular buffer seems a bit silly to do. > > TIA > Phil > > > >

June 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by phil＠highoctane.be

Thanks. But this would give me the 200 last chars. I am interested in the 200 last lines. Now, I did this: command := 'tac ', file fullName, ' | head -200'. ^ (PipeableOSProcess command: command) output. which did the trick but isn't portable at all (Linux here). I had a look at RemoteString as well. Phil On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com > wrote: > If you have a MultiByteFileStream you can do > > stream position: stream size - 200. > stream next: 200. > > Have a look at RemoteString, which is the class used to read the source > from the source and changes files (without loading all of them into memory) > > > On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:15 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> > wrote: > >> I wonder how you guys would read the last n lines from a file in Pharo >> without reading through the whole thing. >> >> Is there code doing just that somewhere? >> >> The code I have is a shell script doing a 'tac file | tail -200 > >> /temp/something' >> >> I can always do that through OSProcess but wondered if there was >> something available. >> >> Reading through with a 200-entries FIFO circular buffer seems a bit silly >> to do. >> >> TIA >> Phil >> >> >> >

June 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Reading the last n lines from a file without using lots of memory

by Guillermo Polito

If you have a MultiByteFileStream you can do stream position: stream size - 200. stream next: 200. Have a look at RemoteString, which is the class used to read the source from the source and changes files (without loading all of them into memory) On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 6:15 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be> wrote: > I wonder how you guys would read the last n lines from a file in Pharo > without reading through the whole thing. > > Is there code doing just that somewhere? > > The code I have is a shell script doing a 'tac file | tail -200 > > /temp/something' > > I can always do that through OSProcess but wondered if there was something > available. > > Reading through with a 200-entries FIFO circular buffer seems a bit silly > to do. > > TIA > Phil > > >

June 27, 2014