May 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] 3D with Pharo and OpenGL ?

by Jean Baptiste Arnaud

So the code has not been ported ... yet. StateTracker is a Roassal3D mecanism, that should not been used in standards OpenGL. Using R3StateTracker here introduce a dependency between NBOpenGL from Roassal3D that is really bad, as Roassal3D has one from NBOpenGL. The additional risk is to blur the line between OpenGL and Roassal3D. But in curent state, I am not sure there another way. My demo are completely deprecated because do not used the R3 entity at all. so do not used it, il will put energy to solve that. By reinvent the wheels. On 27 May 2014, at 01:10, darrinm <darrin(a)massena.com> wrote: > OK, I've found the R3StateTracker and am working from that. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/3D-with-Pharo-and-OpenGL-tp4760029p4760466.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > Best Regards Jean Baptiste Arnaud jbaptiste.arnaud(a)gmail.com

May 28, 2014

Mac keyboard bindings

by darrinm

A number of text editing keys don't work like I expect. For example, Home and End don't do anything and Command-left/right don't behave as they do elsewhere in the system. How can I fix these mappings/behaviors? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Mac-keyboard-bindings-tp4760586.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] name selector

by Sean P. DeNigris

jfabry wrote > +1 on the removal of Object>>#name. +1. It is a trap, especially for new users... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/name-selector-tp4760402p4760542.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Bernat Romagosa

OK! I'll try that! You sure deserve some credit in the Snap4Arduino MacOSX version... ;) Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2014-05-27 15:32 GMT+02:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > > On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi Mariano, > > Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the > dock :) > > I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it > without any command-line knowledge. > > Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost > replace Alien now? > > > yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found > time to do it :( ) > better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: > > #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile â¦ (and etc.) > > :) > > > > Esteban > > > Thanks! > > Bernat. > > > 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi Bernat, >> >> About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch >> of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. >> I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: >> >> >> Hello there, >> >> For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support >> in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a >> legacy framework so people needed this. >> >> I wanted to thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> for >> sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the >> development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for >> the community. This headless support will be included in the official >> Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. >> >> The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I >> wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This >> VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. >> >> *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just >> edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if >> it is not present): >> >> <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> >> <true/> >> >> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, >> setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag >> almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't >> even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send - >> headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. >> If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to >> avoid the "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I >> still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current >> situation. >> >> *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or >> Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you >> areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside >> running in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM >> withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V >> So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, >> you should see that Seaside is running. >> >> I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which >> version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the >> better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have >> some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still >> couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( >> >> *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no >> window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching >> apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. >> >> *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to >> my own fork of the VM: >> https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed >> Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be >> integrated. >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa < >> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the >>> dock? >>> >>> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to >>> the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > > > -- Bernat Romagosa.

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 27 May 2014, at 10:13, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Mariano, > > Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :) > > I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it without any command-line knowledge. > > Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace Alien now? yes, but the ObjC bridge for NB is not working (yet, and until I found time to do it :( ) better to use the Alien FFI until then, so you can do something like: #NSApplication asObjectiveC sharedApplication dockTile â¦ (and etc.) :) Esteban > > Thanks! > > Bernat. > > > 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Bernat, > > About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. > I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: > > > Hello there, > > For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. > > I wanted to thanks Square [i] International for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. > > The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. > > How to use it? Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): > > <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> > <true/> > > When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. > > How to test it? You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V > So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, you should see that Seaside is running. > > I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( > > Expected results? In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. > > Where is the code? The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed > Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. > > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? > > In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? > > Thanks! > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi Mariano, Thanks, I used this method, but my problem is I do need an icon in the dock :) I'm using Pharo as a server, and I'd need the user to be able to stop it without any command-line knowledge. Esteban, I'll try with Alien. I'm curious though, doesn't NativeBoost replace Alien now? Thanks! Bernat. 2014-05-27 14:35 GMT+02:00 Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Bernat, > > About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch > of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. > I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: > > > Hello there, > > For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support > in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a > legacy framework so people needed this. > > I wanted to thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> for > sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the > development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for > the community. This headless support will be included in the official > Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. > > The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I > wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This > VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. > > *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just > edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if > it is not present): > > <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> > <true/> > > When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting > LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost > mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put > the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the > VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash > bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the > "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still > couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. > > *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or > Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you > areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside > running in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM > withheadless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V > So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, > you should see that Seaside is running. > > I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which > version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the > better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have > some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still > couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( > > *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no > window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching > apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. > > *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to > my own fork of the VM: > https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed > Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be > integrated. > > > > On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa < > tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi list, >> >> is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the >> dock? >> >> In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the >> dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. >> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Bernat Romagosa.

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Hi Bernat, About a year ago I did implement that on the Pharo VM (the Pharo's branch of Cog). It was integrated as far as I remember. I copied pasted here the ANN I sent to the mailing list: Hello there, For a long time, Pharaoers and Squakers have been asking for headless support in the Cocoa VMs just as we have with Carbon VMs. Carbon is becoming a legacy framework so people needed this. I wanted to thanks Square [i] International <http://www.square-i.net/> for sponsoring me to implement such a support. Not only have they sponsored the development but they have also agreed to release it under MIT license for the community. This headless support will be included in the official Pharo VM and will be, therefore, accessible to everybody. The project is not yet finished but I do have a demo/prototype that I wanted to share with you so that you can test it and give me feedback. This VM should only work starting at OSX 10.6. *How to use it?* Basically it works this way: to have headless, just edit the Info.plist and set the flag LSBackgroundOnly to 1 (add the key if it is not present): <key>LSBackgroundOnly</key> <true/> When doing this, you don't even need the -headless anymore since, setting LSBackgroundOnly to 1, will cause the same effect (being the flag almost mandatory). If you don't want headless, put it to false or don't even put the key. If you don't set LSBackgroundOnly to 1 but send -headless, the VM will still be headless but you will see a little flash. If this flash bothers you, then set the flag. I am trying to get a way to avoid the "flash" while also avoiding to set LSBackgroundOnly to 1, but I still couldn't find it. Anyway, I think we can live with the current situation. *How to test it?* You should run the image with something like RFB or Seaside or whatever you can and then confirm if it is working even if you areheadless. As a matter of testing, I saved an image with seaside running in the port 5555. You can get both, this Seaside image and the VM with headless from: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/r7qk49bxywk2xce/6N7-fdyx6V So if you run the VM headless with that image and go to localhost:5555, you should see that Seaside is running. I would appreciate if you can test it. And please let me know in which version of OSX you tried. Of course, the more of you who can test it, the better. Notice that this VM was compiled with LLVM GCC 4.2 and it may have some problems in older OSX versions (but I think it shouldn't). I still couldn't compile a VM with GNU GCC 4.2 as I get a crash :( *Expected results?* In headless mode, anything should be displayed (no window, no menu, no item in the dock and nothing appear when switching apps). When running headfull, everything should be normal. *Where is the code? *The code I have modified to the VM is committed to my own fork of the VM: https://gitorious.org/~marianopeck/cogvm/marianopecks-blessed Once the code is ready, I will do a pull request so that it can be integrated. On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Bernat Romagosa < tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the > dock? > > In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the > dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? > > Thanks! > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] deep into pharo(esug 2013) translate to korean draft version.

by Damien Cassou

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 2:53 PM, peter yoo <onionmixer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It would be honor to me if you would like to put a URL link to my korean > translation of Deep Into Pharo on your website. what about this: http://deepintopharo.com/ ? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

May 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Esteban Lorenzano

not directly but you can use the Alien ObjC bridge to work with the cocoa libraries and intercept your app. use ConfigurationOfOldAlien from alien repo in squeaksource or in the configurations browser. Esteban On 27 May 2014, at 07:02, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? > > In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? > > Thanks! > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

May 27, 2014

MacOS headless but showing up in dock?

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi list, is it possible to have Pharo run headless while still showing up in the dock? In the same direction, is it possible to add contextual menu items to the dock menu? Or for what matters, to the top system menu? Thanks! -- Bernat Romagosa.

May 27, 2014