March 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about dependencies and configurations

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-03-21 10:38 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > > On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:32, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I am creating a web interface for chromia using Seaside. I would like to have it as a separate package, so chromia can be loaded without pulling Seaside in. >> >> Would I have ConfigurationOfChromia and ConfigurationOfChromiaWeb, the latter depending on the former? > > Another solution is to work with groups in one configuration. As far as the Seaside and Core packages are distinct, I'd support the groups in the same configuration. Esteban A. Maringolo

March 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] A question about dependencies and configurations

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 21 Mar 2014, at 14:32, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am creating a web interface for chromia using Seaside. I would like to have it as a separate package, so chromia can be loaded without pulling Seaside in. > > Would I have ConfigurationOfChromia and ConfigurationOfChromiaWeb, the latter depending on the former? Yes, that is one way to do it, a bit more work for you, less for your users. Another solution is to work with groups in one configuration. > Cheers, > Sergi

March 21, 2014

A question about dependencies and configurations

by Sergi Reyner

I am creating a web interface for chromia using Seaside. I would like to have it as a separate package, so chromia can be loaded without pulling Seaside in. Would I have ConfigurationOfChromia and ConfigurationOfChromiaWeb, the latter depending on the former? Cheers, Sergi

March 21, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tiling Window Manager in 3.0: working but still issues with WorldMorph

by Laurent Laffont

Done Laurent Le mercredi 19 mars 2014, 17:23:06 phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > Would you mind putting the configuration in the 3.0 Metarepo? > > Phil > > > > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Laurent Laffont > <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > Hi Phil, > > > > with latest ConfigurationOfTilingWindow manager World management (almost) > > works. Still a little display issue when creating a new world (need to > > change back and forth, seems to be some World repaint issue). > > > > I've also merged some experiments with GrowlMorph. > > > > Laurent > > > > > > Le mardi 11 mars 2014, 13:27:57 Laurent Laffont a Ã©crit : > > > Thanks a lot Phil. I will try to have a look. > > > > > > Laurent > > > > > > > > > Le samedi 8 mars 2014, 11:57:30 phil(a)highoctane.be a Ã©crit : > > > > TWM works in 3.0 after some work on icons and updating menus. > > > > > > > > Gofer new > > > > smalltalkhubUser: 'LaurentLaffont' project: 'TilingWindowManager'; > > > > configuration; > > > > load. > > > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > > '3.0') > > > > load > > > > > > > > You can also use > > > > > > > > ((Smalltalk at:#ConfigurationOfTilingWindowManager) project version: > > > > #development) load > > > > > > > > but this will for sure change over time. > > > > > > > > There is the World management icon which is still there and it looks > > like > > > > it can create worlds but switching between them just breaks havoc. > > > > > > > > Maybe should we just remove that feature from TWM as 3.0 doesn't seem > > to be > > > > multiworld friendly. > > > > > > > > Nothing done on tests nor themeing (which appears to be not that > > working > > > > well in 3.0 either due to theming changes); > > > > > > > > At least the thing is back :-) [I missed it...] > > > > > > > > Phil > > > > > > > > > > > >

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Seaside] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Torsten Bergmann

Stef wrote: > This is a nice idea but you should pay attention that I would prefer to have a forward > (books.pharo.org) to my pages because I signed agreement to some publisher saying > that the pdf will only be on this page. Hi Stef, as you can imagine it is not my goal to bring you in legal trouble. I dont know the agreements in detail but I see no violations as the PDFs are only linked and still reside/stay on your site. So the page are just links to the original books just with a different presentation form more specialed to focus on Pharo. The page also includes updated links where to buy these books in case someone needs printed paper. As it is more focused on Pharo (than just ST) I additionally intend to link to tutorials as well in the near future. They are hard to find for newbees that do now follow closely the announcements on the mailinglist. To honor your collection and its original creator (= you) even more I now additionally added an info at the top including a link to your original page. Regarding update: I added you to the source project on STHub. I guess the book collection is not updated very often as new ST books are (unfortunately) not written daily. Hope this is OK for now. In any other case tell me. Independent from that I think in the future we should provide a "Pharo Store" with apps, images, frameworks (configs), books, videos and tutorials. Would be a fun project to write in Seaside with a better local config browser to access all these but "Shhh...." I can not tell you more in advance - there may be already something in the pipe ;) Thx T.

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] What's wrong with this code?

by Sean P. DeNigris

Nicolai Hess wrote > I think the ProgressNotification was only used in IIRC we use announcements everywhere now for progress and ProgressNotification is no longer used. You may have found a reference that we forgot to remove. In general, progress is handled via aBlock asJob. Maybe all other methods should be outright removed. There were so many access points, maybe creating more spaghetti than convenience. Background: one of my major drivers for revamping progress with Cami at ESUG a few years ago was that I feel that using exceptions for non-exceptional conditions smells funny. In particular, if you're interested in being notified of progress, but the exception was handled already in code which you don't own, you'll never know. With the announcement approach we take now, all interested parties can register. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/What-s-wrong-whith-this-code-tp4749558p4749960.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Pharo4Stef

I would love to have more books on Pharo. It is simple start to write some chapters. > Maybe you could use a more packed presentation like this one : > http://pythonbooks.revolunet.com/ > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: >> There are some free Smalltalk books collected by Stef in the past. >> >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html >> >> Yet this page is often unknown to people. >> >> >> I therefore converted them to a more Seaside like demo using the Bootstrap project at: >> >> http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks >> >> as part of the Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap demos at http://pharo.pharocloud.com >> Code for this is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/PharoCloud. >> >> >> I would suggest that we create a shortlink "books.pharo.org" for >> http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks to it - any takers? This way we can >> tell people: >> >> "Ahh you want to get Pharo, just use get.pharo.org" >> "Ahh you want to download Pharo, just use files.pharo.org" >> "Ahh you want to enhance Pharo, just use bugs.pharo.org" >> "Ahh you want to control Pharo, just use ci.pharo.org" >> >> and now >> >> "Ahh you want to learn Pharo, just use books.pharo.org" >> >> to be continued ... >> >> Kudos to Stef for the collection and to Mike for being able to host >> a demo on pharocloud. >> >> Have fun >> T. >> > > > > -- > Serge Stinckwich > UCBN & UMI UMMISCO 209 (IRD/UPMC) > Every DSL ends up being Smalltalk > http://www.doesnotunderstand.org/

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Seaside] [ANN] Pharo and ST books page (as another Seaside demo on PharoCloud)

by Pharo4Stef

This is a nice idea but you should pay attention that I would prefer to have a forward (books.pharo.org) to my pages because I signed agreement to some publisher saying that the pdf will only be on this page. And each time I will change it will not be visible. Stef On 19 Mar 2014, at 13:53, Torsten Bergmann <astares(a)gmx.de> wrote: > There are some free Smalltalk books collected by Stef in the past. > > http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html > > Yet this page is often unknown to people. > > > I therefore converted them to a more Seaside like demo using the Bootstrap project at: > > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks > > as part of the Pharo/Seaside/Bootstrap demos at http://pharo.pharocloud.com > Code for this is on http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~TorstenBergmann/PharoCloud. > > > I would suggest that we create a shortlink "books.pharo.org" for > http://pharo.pharocloud.com/pharobooks to it - any takers? This way we can > tell people: > > "Ahh you want to get Pharo, just use get.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to download Pharo, just use files.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to enhance Pharo, just use bugs.pharo.org" > "Ahh you want to control Pharo, just use ci.pharo.org" > > and now > > "Ahh you want to learn Pharo, just use books.pharo.org" > > to be continued ... > > Kudos to Stef for the collection and to Mike for being able to host > a demo on pharocloud. > > Have fun > T. > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch Website + version 3.0 in dev

by Pharo4Stef

> > - version 3.0 is the version in development. What is new here: Before > > this version Phratch was really slow. I am cleaning the code, and now it > > begins to be fast, really fast ! We also begun to write tests. > > I am curious. What did you finally find out for speed up? > > Hum, some crappy things. > For example, to manage the z-index of the bubble talk: > - a loop to draw all the morph > - a second loop that select the buuble (isKindOf: bubble !!!) and draw only the bubble. > These two loops are in the same method and called on each step... for a bubble that appears only 1 or 2 times in an application no comment! > > Removing the second loop makes Phratch 2x faster. > > I am continuing to clean that. > I also find the problem with click-event. Now when I click, it works fine ! > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > > > > Hilaire > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

March 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] ArchLinux pharo-vm / pharo-launcher packages

by Laurent Laffont

Le mercredi 19 mars 2014, 15:05:56 Damien Cassou a Ã©crit : > On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Laurent Laffont > <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > you can now install pharo vm on Arch with: > > > that's brilliant. Thanks. Can I reference your work in > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/PharoLauncher ? Sure ! Laurent > >

March 19, 2014