February 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Stupid Question

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, On Mac, I press Cmd + shift + mouse click and while keeping all these pressed I move the mouse, and it automatically create a rectangle selecting all the morphs inside. It allows to select multiple morphs which is much better in some cases. 2014-02-08 18:22 GMT+01:00 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com>: > Bring the halo menu. > In Windows: Alt+Shift+Left click over the morph > > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2014-02-08 14:12 GMT-03:00 Bob Williams <rwilliams19(a)cox.net>: > > I am exploring Morphs and I tried the following code: >> >> |sm ws| >> ws := WideString new: 5. >> ws wordAt: 1 put: 16r2264. >> ws wordAt: 2 put: 16r22C5. >> ws wordAt: 3 put: 16r2211. >> ws wordAt: 4 put: 16r2219. >> ws wordAt: 5 put: 16r221A. >> sm := SimpleSwitchMorph new. >> sm label: ws font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Cambria Math' pointSize: >> 15). >> sm openInWorld. >> >> Now in the upper left corner of the World screen I have a button that >> shows the math symbols, LTE, dot, Summation, large-dot and SQRT, and will >> change backcolor from gray to light-red. Exactly what I wanted; however, >> how do I get rid of the morph? The class documentation is full of examples >> of this kind so there must be a way to clean up the World as It persists >> through a quit and save and then open. >> >> Thanks. >> > >

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Stupid Question

by Benjamin

sm delete ? Ben On 08 Feb 2014, at 18:12, Bob Williams <rwilliams19(a)cox.net> wrote: > I am exploring Morphs and I tried the following code: > > |sm ws| > ws := WideString new: 5. > ws wordAt: 1 put: 16r2264. > ws wordAt: 2 put: 16r22C5. > ws wordAt: 3 put: 16r2211. > ws wordAt: 4 put: 16r2219. > ws wordAt: 5 put: 16r221A. > sm := SimpleSwitchMorph new. > sm label: ws font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Cambria Math' pointSize: 15). > sm openInWorld. > > Now in the upper left corner of the World screen I have a button that shows the math symbols, LTE, dot, Summation, large-dot and SQRT, and will change backcolor from gray to light-red. Exactly what I wanted; however, how do I get rid of the morph? The class documentation is full of examples of this kind so there must be a way to clean up the World as It persists through a quit and save and then open. > > Thanks.

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Stupid Question

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Bring the halo menu. In Windows: Alt+Shift+Left click over the morph Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2014-02-08 14:12 GMT-03:00 Bob Williams <rwilliams19(a)cox.net>: > I am exploring Morphs and I tried the following code: > > |sm ws| > ws := WideString new: 5. > ws wordAt: 1 put: 16r2264. > ws wordAt: 2 put: 16r22C5. > ws wordAt: 3 put: 16r2211. > ws wordAt: 4 put: 16r2219. > ws wordAt: 5 put: 16r221A. > sm := SimpleSwitchMorph new. > sm label: ws font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Cambria Math' pointSize: > 15). > sm openInWorld. > > Now in the upper left corner of the World screen I have a button that > shows the math symbols, LTE, dot, Summation, large-dot and SQRT, and will > change backcolor from gray to light-red. Exactly what I wanted; however, > how do I get rid of the morph? The class documentation is full of examples > of this kind so there must be a way to clean up the World as It persists > through a quit and save and then open. > > Thanks. >

Feb. 8, 2014

Stupid Question

by Bob Williams

I am exploring Morphs and I tried the following code: |sm ws| ws := WideString new: 5. ws wordAt: 1 put: 16r2264. ws wordAt: 2 put: 16r22C5. ws wordAt: 3 put: 16r2211. ws wordAt: 4 put: 16r2219. ws wordAt: 5 put: 16r221A. sm := SimpleSwitchMorph new. sm label: ws font: (LogicalFont familyName: 'Cambria Math' pointSize: 15). sm openInWorld. Now in the upper left corner of the World screen I have a button that shows the math symbols, LTE, dot, Summation, large-dot and SQRT, and will change backcolor from gray to light-red. Exactly what I wanted; however, how do I get rid of the morph? The class documentation is full of examples of this kind so there must be a way to clean up the World as It persists through a quit and save and then open. Thanks.

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] iStoa, some new

by Hilaire Fernandes

If you want to test a specific activity (Etayage), you can execute the following code: e := EtayageNumber5 new. e playStep: 1. Hilaire Le 05/02/2014 18:59, Carlo a Ã©crit : > Thanks, that seems to work. > > On 05 Feb 2014, at 12:38 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote: > > What about: > > StoaApp current openInWorld. > > > Along Cliparts/, you may need to create a Users/ folder > > Hilaire > > Le 02/02/2014 22:13, Carlo a Ã©crit : >> Stoa beUnix. >> StoaApp current show. > > -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] iStoa, some new

by Hilaire Fernandes

Le 02/02/2014 17:39, Alain Busser a Ã©crit : > Which yields me to an other question: Is there already voice synthesis > in Pharo? If yes, how many languages are implemented? You can rely on external resources of the host system. There are such package for Linux, and I guess for Windows and MacOSX too, no? Hilaire -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Xs&Os game

by ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½

Updated XsAndOsGame: added AI, also fixed some problems, that Damien mentioned in his comments. Btw, thanks to Damien, because I learned for myself a lot of new useful things. Note: The new version is XsAndOsGame (NOT Xs&OsGame) ! To play it type in workspace: XsAndOsGame new openInWorld. If you want to play vs computer press button "ToggleMode" and choose difficulty. Initially it is easy. Mark 2014-02-05 15:57 GMT+02:00 ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks, I'll certainly take a look at it > > > 2014-02-05 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:58 PM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > I should think how to write this tutorial. >> >> >> on the technical point of view, I advise you to use Pillar: >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pier/Pillar >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> >> >

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [launcher] to manage StartupLoader scripts

by kilon alios

This is what I discussed with Damien. I imagined download the latest Pharo 3 image and have PharoLauncher automagically install my libraries to it. However on the other hand I decided not to work with it because Damien shown me how Startup scripts work and because its easy to create a Configuration as I already have to install all the libraries I need in each image with 3 lines of code. So its not such a big deal for me, but good idea none the less. On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 7:57 AM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > Just an off the cuff idea... it might be useful if PharoLauncher helped > manage/edit the StartupLoader scripts. > Any thoughts? > cheers -ben > >

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] for those not in the smalltalk-gsoc-mentors mailing-list nor in esug

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 08. 02. 2014 11:40, piÅ¡e Pharo4Stef: > Janko > > in fact I'thinking about it may be this is the time to propose a Pharo > specific GSOC program. > If they are enough people willing to do that we have an association with > a real legal status ready for that. > > :) thanks for giving us the idea. You can do that of course but then all will loose. Pharo will be regarded as a new organization and will get just few stipendiums while Smalltalk GSoC as continuation of Smalltalk-wide org won't have a lot of good projects with mentor pool and will also get much less stipendiums. And now question back to you, will you take a responsibility for such outcome? Janko P.S: Legal entity matters nothing, please read FAQ carefully: "What is a mentoring organization? A group running an active free/open source software project, e.g. the Python Software Foundation. The project does not need to be a legally incorporated entity." http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc20… Legal entity is needed only for receiving the money and for this any entity can be used. If not others a Software Freedom Conservancy can be asked. > On 08 Feb 2014, at 11:34, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si > <mailto:janko.mivsek@eranova.si>> wrote: > >> .. and of course my answer: >> >> Dear Smalltalkers, >> >> Stef is overreacting as always, going off-topic and don't want to see >> the real reasons behind this proposal. Which is to make GSoC attractive >> to all Smalltalkers by removing the last doubt about the any bias >> towards any Smalltalk or group. That's why I propose to go more >> independent under new name 'Smalltalk', besides a clearly better >> visibility of such name of course. >> >> I invite you to follow the debate on GSoC mentor list: >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors >> >> All mentors with voting rights on past GSoCs please join back to this >> mailing list and help with debate: >> >> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors/join >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> >> Dne 08. 02. 2014 10:53, piÅ¡e Pharo4Stef: >>> Iâm sorry to have to forward you this kind of mail but I do it. >>> I will not send other emails on the topics. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> Dear community >>> >>> On the smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> janko is kind of >>> declaring that ESUG was not doing a good job managing >>> GSOC. We feel insulted and we are quite concerned by that fact. >>> Personally if students would not be involved I would vote that ESUG does >>> not have anything to do with GSOC. Because it costs us money, time and >>> stress. Note in addition that we never interferred with the choice or >>> anything. >>> >>> I will ask the ESUG board to decide because we cannot do the job, spend >>> time, money and be treated like that. >>> Sorry! We are sad but this is like that. >>> >>> Then we do not like the kind of mails that Janko is sending us about the >>> fact that ESUG is biased towards Pharo. >>> Where are the research teams and teachers? Of course: the mails of >>> janko are just so nice. I let you judge. >>> >>> It is particularly fun since this year we (the pharo board) decided not >>> to organise a Pharo conference to avoid competing with ESUG. >>> >>>> About motivations for my proposal: >>>> >>>> 1. 'Smalltalk' is more recognizable name on first spot that 'ESUG' . >>>> And this matters when a student looks at around 150 GSoC organizations >>>> to choose, which one to check and try. See last year list of orgs >>>> <http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013>. >>>> >>>> 2. ESUG is currently regarded by many as too biased towards Pharo. Let >>>> we avoid starting debating is this is true or not. Making our org more >>>> independent will I hope remove any remaining doubt about that. >>> >>> >>> I feel shocked and insulted but I take it easy, having success make you >>> as easy target for jaleous people. This is strange that >>> some people would prefer to have a non existing/moving open-source >>> smalltalk. May be the losers theory. >>> >>> I added the answer of marcus below (because marcus usually is much >>> calmer than me) so that Janko succeeded to get marcus reacting like that >>> is a nice proof in itself. >>> >>> Seriously Smalltalk is in a so good shape in presence of lua, >>> Javascript, ruby and python, clojure that we should fight. >>> >>> Excellent idea thank for this nice initiative. >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>>> *From: *Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)gmail.com >>>> <mailto:janko.mivsek@gmail.com> >>>> <mailto:janko.mivsek@gmail.com>> >>>> *Subject: **[gsoc-mentors] Running under 'Smalltalk' org. name* >>>> *Date: *8 Feb 2014 08:46:18 GMT+1 >>>> *To: *smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Reply-To: *smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> Dear mentors, >>>> >>>> I propose that we run this year GSoC simply under 'Smalltalk' name. >>>> Mentoring organization will be us mentors of past and current GSoCs, >>>> as the name 'mentoring organization' implies anyway. Such organization >>>> therefore doesn't need to be some kind of legal entity. >>>> >>>> Because I need to open a new website and we have only one week to >>>> deadline, decision needs to be done soon. >>>> >>>> Best regards >>>> Janko >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Janko MivÅ¡ek >>>> Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Smalltalk GSoC mentors" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com> >>>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >>> Of course you need it: I filled out quite some paperwork for Google. >>> ESUG is an official Google supplier, for that I filled american tax >>> forms and so on. >>> >>> Without an organisation that will be very difficult. How do yu receive >>> money for the flight if someone goes to the meeting in the fall? >>> >>> One of the reasons why the Smalltalk GSOC was accepted was I think that >>> it was the same organisation that is already in the books of google. >>> >>> And I do not see why to change that: ESUG did a good job, we even lost >>> money (that is, we spend more money on additional Summer of Code slots >>> than got in with the money from google). >>> We payed all additional expenses of the people going to the Summit: >>> Google only pays the flight and hotel. Everyhting else not (e.g. going >>> from the airpot >>> to the hotel). >>> >>> >>> What we need to discuss this year is if additional slots make sense: We >>> had last year the fast that >>> a) it was very expensive for ESUG >>> b) even then, we got complaints that it was unfair that we did not pay >>> the same as google >>> c) that it was very extremely unfair that the student could not put >>> âGoogle Summer of Codeâ on the CV. >>> >>> The last is the Killer: money from ESUG is just money. GSoC is more. So >>> we ask if it is really worth to spend the money >>> if even the students are not happy about it. >>> >>> And if your motivation behind is that this way you think it will be >>> easier to enable âQuotasâ for different Smalltalks: I think this is a >>> dumb idea. >>> >>> Yes, Pharo is very active. So could every other Smalltalk be, too. They >>> just need to do it. If they do not, it is not my duty to limit >>> my activity for âFairnessâ. Limiting the activity level of those who do >>> to be more âin lineâ with what those do who do nothing is just >>> *insane*. Itâs a description of death itself. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >> >> -- >> Janko MivÅ¡ek >> Svetovalec za informatiko >> Eranova d.o.o. >> Ljubljana, Slovenija >> www.eranova.si <http://www.eranova.si/> >> tel: 01 514 22 55 >> faks: 01 514 22 56 >> gsm: 031 674 565 > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Svetovalec za informatiko Eranova d.o.o. Ljubljana, Slovenija www.eranova.si tel: 01 514 22 55 faks: 01 514 22 56 gsm: 031 674 565

Feb. 8, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] for those not in the smalltalk-gsoc-mentors mailing-list nor in esug

by Pharo4Stef

Janko in fact I'thinking about it may be this is the time to propose a Pharo specific GSOC program. If they are enough people willing to do that we have an association with a real legal status ready for that. :) thanks for giving us the idea. Stef On 08 Feb 2014, at 11:34, Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si> wrote: > .. and of course my answer: > > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Stef is overreacting as always, going off-topic and don't want to see > the real reasons behind this proposal. Which is to make GSoC attractive > to all Smalltalkers by removing the last doubt about the any bias > towards any Smalltalk or group. That's why I propose to go more > independent under new name 'Smalltalk', besides a clearly better > visibility of such name of course. > > I invite you to follow the debate on GSoC mentor list: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors > > All mentors with voting rights on past GSoCs please join back to this > mailing list and help with debate: > > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/smalltalk-gsoc-mentors/join > > Best regards > Janko > > > Dne 08. 02. 2014 10:53, piÅ¡e Pharo4Stef: >> Iâm sorry to have to forward you this kind of mail but I do it. >> I will not send other emails on the topics. >> >> Stef >> >> >> Dear community >> >> On the smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> janko is kind of >> declaring that ESUG was not doing a good job managing >> GSOC. We feel insulted and we are quite concerned by that fact. >> Personally if students would not be involved I would vote that ESUG does >> not have anything to do with GSOC. Because it costs us money, time and >> stress. Note in addition that we never interferred with the choice or >> anything. >> >> I will ask the ESUG board to decide because we cannot do the job, spend >> time, money and be treated like that. >> Sorry! We are sad but this is like that. >> >> Then we do not like the kind of mails that Janko is sending us about the >> fact that ESUG is biased towards Pharo. >> Where are the research teams and teachers? Of course: the mails of >> janko are just so nice. I let you judge. >> >> It is particularly fun since this year we (the pharo board) decided not >> to organise a Pharo conference to avoid competing with ESUG. >> >>> About motivations for my proposal: >>> >>> 1. 'Smalltalk' is more recognizable name on first spot that 'ESUG' . >>> And this matters when a student looks at around 150 GSoC organizations >>> to choose, which one to check and try. See last year list of orgs >>> <http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013>. >>> >>> 2. ESUG is currently regarded by many as too biased towards Pharo. Let >>> we avoid starting debating is this is true or not. Making our org more >>> independent will I hope remove any remaining doubt about that. >> >> >> I feel shocked and insulted but I take it easy, having success make you >> as easy target for jaleous people. This is strange that >> some people would prefer to have a non existing/moving open-source >> smalltalk. May be the losers theory. >> >> I added the answer of marcus below (because marcus usually is much >> calmer than me) so that Janko succeeded to get marcus reacting like that >> is a nice proof in itself. >> >> Seriously Smalltalk is in a so good shape in presence of lua, >> Javascript, ruby and python, clojure that we should fight. >> >> Excellent idea thank for this nice initiative. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> *From: *Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:janko.mivsek@gmail.com>> >>> *Subject: **[gsoc-mentors] Running under 'Smalltalk' org. name* >>> *Date: *8 Feb 2014 08:46:18 GMT+1 >>> *To: *smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>> *Reply-To: *smalltalk-gsoc-mentors(a)googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors@googlegroups.com> >>> >>> Dear mentors, >>> >>> I propose that we run this year GSoC simply under 'Smalltalk' name. >>> Mentoring organization will be us mentors of past and current GSoCs, >>> as the name 'mentoring organization' implies anyway. Such organization >>> therefore doesn't need to be some kind of legal entity. >>> >>> Because I need to open a new website and we have only one week to >>> deadline, decision needs to be done soon. >>> >>> Best regards >>> Janko >>> >>> --- >>> Janko MivÅ¡ek >>> Smalltalk GSoC Admin Team >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Smalltalk GSoC mentors" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe(a)googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:smalltalk-gsoc-mentors+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> Of course you need it: I filled out quite some paperwork for Google. >> ESUG is an official Google supplier, for that I filled american tax >> forms and so on. >> >> Without an organisation that will be very difficult. How do yu receive >> money for the flight if someone goes to the meeting in the fall? >> >> One of the reasons why the Smalltalk GSOC was accepted was I think that >> it was the same organisation that is already in the books of google. >> >> And I do not see why to change that: ESUG did a good job, we even lost >> money (that is, we spend more money on additional Summer of Code slots >> than got in with the money from google). >> We payed all additional expenses of the people going to the Summit: >> Google only pays the flight and hotel. Everyhting else not (e.g. going >> from the airpot >> to the hotel). >> >> >> What we need to discuss this year is if additional slots make sense: We >> had last year the fast that >> a) it was very expensive for ESUG >> b) even then, we got complaints that it was unfair that we did not pay >> the same as google >> c) that it was very extremely unfair that the student could not put >> âGoogle Summer of Codeâ on the CV. >> >> The last is the Killer: money from ESUG is just money. GSoC is more. So >> we ask if it is really worth to spend the money >> if even the students are not happy about it. >> >> And if your motivation behind is that this way you think it will be >> easier to enable âQuotasâ for different Smalltalks: I think this is a >> dumb idea. >> >> Yes, Pharo is very active. So could every other Smalltalk be, too. They >> just need to do it. If they do not, it is not my duty to limit >> my activity for âFairnessâ. Limiting the activity level of those who do >> to be more âin lineâ with what those do who do nothing is just >> *insane*. Itâs a description of death itself. >> >> Marcus >> > > -- > Janko MivÅ¡ek > Svetovalec za informatiko > Eranova d.o.o. > Ljubljana, Slovenija > www.eranova.si > tel: 01 514 22 55 > faks: 01 514 22 56 > gsm: 031 674 565

Feb. 8, 2014