February 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Dowser edges

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

I know one of the guys in Object Profile was working on this feature before his vacations, maybe you could check in a week or so. Not a cool solution but right now if you click on each item lines will stay there. Cheers, HernÃ¡n 2014-02-18 16:35 GMT-03:00 rosariosm <rosariosantamarina1(a)gmail.com>: > Hi all, > > Is there a way in dowser to open a builder wich edges are immediately shown > instead of appearing when you pass the mouse over the different nodes? I > want to create a sort of static image. > > Thanks, > Rosario > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Dowser-edges-tp4744705.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Feb. 21, 2014

Contact for pharo association?

by Johan Fabry

Hi all, whom do I need to mail for questions regarding the pharo association and billing? The association web site has no contact information (or at least I cannot find it). Also, I think it would be good to add contact information to the association web site. (Or make it more prominent.) ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Feb. 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec and an application menu

by kmo

Great to see that application menus have arrived in Spec! Many thanks Benjamin. I suppose it shows how well Spec has been designed and coded that the menus could be added so quickly. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-and-an-application-menu-tp4744164p4745357.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Feb. 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi Esteban! Oh, good to know! The offer stays on, I can't help much more than testing, but I'm available for anything you need me to do :) Gracias! Bernat. 2014-02-20 13:30 GMT+01:00 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Bernat, > > yes, Iâm committed to have it ready before Pharo3 release. > > Esteban > > On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:54, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi list, > > I've been too busy to look into this lately, but today I tried the latest > MacOS version and I still get the same PrimitiveFailed error when trying to > write a byte array through the serial port. > > Has there been any further development on this? > > Thanks! > > Best, > Bernat. > > > 2013-11-12 13:07 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com > >: > >> Thanks, Esteban. >> >> Anything I can do to help, I'm available :) >> >> >> 2013/11/12 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> >>> >>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Bernat Romagosa < >>> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> I can confirm I still got the same issue after replacing my VM by the >>> vmLatest found at files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac under the name >>> "Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip" >>> >>> >>> I will check next week :) >>> >>> >>> When trying to write a byte array to the serial port (aSerialPort >>> nextPutAll: #[249]), SerialPort fails with a primitiveFailed: primitive >>> #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: >>> >>> The port does open correctly, though. >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/11 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >>> >>>> Thanks guys, >>>> >>>> files.pharo.org is down right now >>>> >>>> I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/9 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> > Luc proposed a pull request on github >>>>> > - got validated by travis >>>>> > - I integrated it into the master branch >>>>> > - I pushed the changes to the develop branch >>>>> > >>>>> > so the vmLatest should include the fixes >>>>> >>>>> I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) >>>>> >>>>> Stef >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> Esteban >>>>> >> >>>>> >> we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you >>>>> are doing and see how we >>>>> >> should distribute and share load. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Stef >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >>> Hi, >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> it is "stable" but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for >>>>> SerialPlugin. >>>>> >>> So many things to do when I come back... :) >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> Esteban >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa < >>>>> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>> Hi Luc, >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Smalltalk vm version reports: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>>>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>>> >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>>>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>>> >>>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >>>>> 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 >>>>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>>>> >>>> ' >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in >>>>> pharo-project.org >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>> Bernat. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> Hi Bernat, >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Which VM version? >>>>> >>>> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the >>>>> SerialPlugin. >>>>> >>>> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >>>>> >>>> but I have not tried. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> do you use the right protName? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Luc >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> Hi list, >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you >>>>> have to deal with hardware it seems... >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the >>>>> latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> PrimitiveFailed: primitive >>>>> #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm >>>>> guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any >>>>> ideas? >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>> Bernat. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>>> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. >> > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > > > -- Bernat Romagosa.

Feb. 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Esteban Lorenzano

Hi Bernat, yes, Iâm committed to have it ready before Pharo3 release. Esteban On 20 Feb 2014, at 12:54, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi list, > > I've been too busy to look into this lately, but today I tried the latest MacOS version and I still get the same PrimitiveFailed error when trying to write a byte array through the serial port. > > Has there been any further development on this? > > Thanks! > > Best, > Bernat. > > > 2013-11-12 13:07 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks, Esteban. > > Anything I can do to help, I'm available :) > > > 2013/11/12 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I can confirm I still got the same issue after replacing my VM by the vmLatest found at files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac under the name "Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip" > > I will check next week :) > >> >> When trying to write a byte array to the serial port (aSerialPort nextPutAll: #[249]), SerialPort fails with a primitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: >> >> The port does open correctly, though. >> >> >> 2013/11/11 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >> Thanks guys, >> >> files.pharo.org is down right now >> >> I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) >> >> >> 2013/11/9 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > Luc proposed a pull request on github >> > - got validated by travis >> > - I integrated it into the master branch >> > - I pushed the changes to the develop branch >> > >> > so the vmLatest should include the fixes >> >> I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) >> >> Stef >> >> > >> > On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >> Esteban >> >> >> >> we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we >> >> should distribute and share load. >> >> >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi, >> >>> >> >>> it is "stable" but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. >> >>> So many things to do when I come back... :) >> >>> >> >>> Esteban >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hi Luc, >> >>>> >> >>>> Smalltalk vm version reports: >> >>>> >> >>>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >> >>>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >> >>>> ' >> >>>> >> >>>> It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in pharo-project.org >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Bernat. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >> >>>> Hi Bernat, >> >>>> >> >>>> Which VM version? >> >>>> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. >> >>>> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >> >>>> but I have not tried. >> >>>> >> >>>> yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> do you use the right protName? >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Luc >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >> >>>> Hi list, >> >>>> >> >>>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... >> >>>> >> >>>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >> >>>> >> >>>> PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed >> >>>> >> >>>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> Bernat. >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. >> >> >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. > > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

Feb. 20, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi list, I've been too busy to look into this lately, but today I tried the latest MacOS version and I still get the same PrimitiveFailed error when trying to write a byte array through the serial port. Has there been any further development on this? Thanks! Best, Bernat. 2013-11-12 13:07 GMT+01:00 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks, Esteban. > > Anything I can do to help, I'm available :) > > > 2013/11/12 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> >> On Nov 12, 2013, at 5:58 AM, Bernat Romagosa < >> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I can confirm I still got the same issue after replacing my VM by the >> vmLatest found at files.pharo.org/vm/pharo/mac under the name >> "Pharo-VM-mac-latest.zip" >> >> >> I will check next week :) >> >> >> When trying to write a byte array to the serial port (aSerialPort >> nextPutAll: #[249]), SerialPort fails with a primitiveFailed: primitive >> #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: >> >> The port does open correctly, though. >> >> >> 2013/11/11 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Thanks guys, >>> >>> files.pharo.org is down right now >>> >>> I'll try with a newer VM as soon as it's up again :) >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/9 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Luc proposed a pull request on github >>>> > - got validated by travis >>>> > - I integrated it into the master branch >>>> > - I pushed the changes to the develop branch >>>> > >>>> > so the vmLatest should include the fixes >>>> >>>> I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) >>>> >>>> Stef >>>> >>>> > >>>> > On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> Esteban >>>> >> >>>> >> we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you >>>> are doing and see how we >>>> >> should distribute and share load. >>>> >> >>>> >> Stef >>>> >> >>>> >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>> Hi, >>>> >>> >>>> >>> it is "stable" but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for >>>> SerialPlugin. >>>> >>> So many things to do when I come back... :) >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Esteban >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa < >>>> tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>>> Hi Luc, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Smalltalk vm version reports: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: >>>> a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> >>>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: >>>> 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 >>>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>>> >>>> ' >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in >>>> pharo-project.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bernat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Hi Bernat, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Which VM version? >>>> >>>> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the >>>> SerialPlugin. >>>> >>>> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >>>> >>>> but I have not tried. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> do you use the right protName? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Luc >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you >>>> have to deal with hardware it seems... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the >>>> latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> PrimitiveFailed: primitive >>>> #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm >>>> guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any >>>> ideas? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Bernat. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>> >>> >>>> >> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. >> >> >> > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. > -- Bernat Romagosa.

Feb. 20, 2014

Latest ConfigurationOfGlorp

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Where is hosted the latest ConfigurationOfGlorp? Because the latest one in the MetaRepo doesn't point to the latest version of the Glorp packages. Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo

Feb. 19, 2014

Pharo on Raspberry Pi

by Torsten Bergmann

good news: "After some efforts, fighting with cross-compilers (cross assemblers) Jean-Baptiste Arnaud finally fixed the PharoS bug on Raspbian and now Pharo runs totally on Raspberry. Well done JB." see [1] and some advertising [2]. [1] http://pharoweekly.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/raspberrypi/ [2] http://www.dzone.com/links/pharo_runs_totally_on_raspberry.html

Feb. 19, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec and an application menu

by Goubier Thierry

Le 18/02/2014 20:17, Johan Fabry a Ã©crit : > Just to motivate the browser example: we did try to find a different example but it's not so easy. If you want an application example, you need to explain the application and its' needs. The advantage of the browser is that you do not need to explain it. Also the browser has all the elements that you want to show in a simple example, including the reuse of models. Moreover this is without needing to provide (and explain) a bunch of application-specific code. I think this is where the issue is. Smalltalk Browsers are very specific GUI applications, and very old in their shape (old as an example of a GUI from the 80's). They do showcase very well the strength of the Spec component composition, but, at the same time, they are quite different from an average GUI application these days. Note that all "Business" Smalltalks I know off these days (Dolphin, ST/X, Cincom) have menu bars and tool bars in their browsers. > If you have an example that shows the same things than what we have now, taking into account the above requirements, and ending up at approx the same number of pages I would be most happy to write it up! Your typical text or model editor? But it doesn't showcase Spec composition as well as the Browser. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

Feb. 19, 2014

Test for the string class available on SmalltalkHub

by Daniela Meneses

Hi to all, I'm writing missing test for the String class methods to improve the test coverage. I will commit my changes in this project at SmalltalkHub: http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~DanielaMeneses/ImprovingStringAPI Feel free to take a look. Any feedback will be really welcome and useful. :D -- Cheers, Daniela

Feb. 18, 2014