December 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Pierre CHANSON

Epic just like the trailers ! congrats, Pierre 2014-12-24 6:30 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu>: > Super ! > > Thanks a lot. > > > On 24 Dec 2014, at 00:09, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: > > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* > > > > > > Description > > --- > > > > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a > look at these two trailers. > > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 > > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 > > > > The key highlights are: > > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. > > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of > Moose. > > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many > new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and > several new layouts. > > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. > > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the > main text editor. > > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. > > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager > browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. > > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined > with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. > > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place > visualizations. > > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. > > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables > elegant island parsing. > > > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > > > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > > > > > Installation > > --- > > > > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip* > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip* > > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux> > http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip* > > > > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from > the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: > > > > ==Gofer new > > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; > > == configuration; > > == loadStable > > > > > > Happy holidays! > > The Moose team > > >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Super ! Thanks a lot. > On 24 Dec 2014, at 00:09, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* > > > Description > --- > > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look at these two trailers. > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 > > The key highlights are: > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of Moose. > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and several new layouts. > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the main text editor. > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place visualizations. > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables elegant island parsing. > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > > Installation > --- > > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip* > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip* > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip* > > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: > > ==Gofer new > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; > == configuration; > == loadStable > > > Happy holidays! > The Moose team

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building agents in Pharo

by S Krish

How about this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/ Not really free form text but quite a bit keyword dependent. Closer to what will make good sense on Pharo / every enterprise app also more contextual based on what the app does. On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:17 PM, Andy Burnett < andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com> wrote: > Doru wrote > <<< > Hi Andy, > > You can also just hook into GTSpotter. It already provides the > infrastructure for handling parallel search and lets you focus only on > specifying the search logic. > > Cheers, > Doru > > >>> > > Brilliant! I am very impressed with GTSpotter. In fact, I am impressed > with the whole GT suite. I think I will build a first prototype with > Glamour and GTSpotter. > > By the way, what really motivated me to do this experiment is the tools - > from the 90's - that were presented in this "Story of Siri" video. If you > have the time, it is well worth watching. Being able to build this sort of > capability into an environment like Pharo would be amazing > > https://wit.ai/blog/2014/12/18/adam-keynote > > Cheers > Andy >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] SODD

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

+1. In fact, when I don't get proper/quick feedback here (which is almost never) I got to SO. When feedback comes I try to update my answers on SO. At least having a conversation between SO and the list would be useful. Cheers, Offray El 12/12/14 a las 05:34, Yuriy Tymchuk escribiÃ³: > Hi, so this message is about SODD (Stack Overflow Driven Development) and > Pharo/Smalltalk. > > If you look at the last questions of this guy: > http://stackoverflow.com/users/1906070/shiran?tab=questions you can see that > they are about smalltalk/squeak and asked in last 2 days :). > > In fact I think that we should support asking questions on SO, as a lot of > people are anxious to register and talk to others on mailing list, and prefer to > search for solutions on SO. If weâll build reasonable amount of Q/A data, it can > be easier for other people to start with Pharo. > > Cheers! > Uko >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Extending GTSpotter

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, Sorry I don't want to "kidnap" the thread, but just inspecting "KMRepository default" and selecting an empty row brings and error. In an other thread today I talked about this error still being present, so is not just about my project, but a way to select empty places on GT objects (trees, tables, etc) and when there is noting there, raising no error and keeping the state of the visualization (in the table resulting from inspecting KMRepository default closing the error brings you back to the table, with my outliner, the tree gets empty). Just trying to make the connection... surely I'm loosing something. Cheers, Offray El 13/12/14 a las 04:23, Edward Povazan escribiÃ³: > Doruâs blog has some neat things. One led me to the following: > Inspect: > KMRepository default. > > With GTools installed, you can see all the shortcuts nicely formatted. I finally found a âscope selectionâ (Cmd+Sh+P) which makes me a very happy user (itâs my primary selection method in IntelliJ/AppCode). > > -Ed > > On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> >> A big +1 on Damienâs comment. Discoverability of useful things is too low. For example, I did not know about Shift-enter for searching until somebody showed it to me inadvertently when he was demoing something else :-/ >> >> That being said, I donât have a good solution to the problem either :-( Maybe have the standard image have a second workspace open that lists useful tools and their shortcuts? Plus put new tools and their shortcuts prominent in the release notes for each new release? (cause us old timers donât look at those workspaces anymore ;-) ). >> >>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 13:25, Damien Pollet <damien.pollet+pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Cmd+Enter: âPackage' >>> >>> Doru, your blog post does not mention this piece of information: how >>> to invoke GTSpotter >>> It does not seem to be mentioned in your announcement email either; I >>> found it here after going through threads talking about GTSpotter. >>> >>> Nobody else asked for it, so I'm guessing it was well-known before and >>> I'm the only one who failed to get addicted to whatever the shortcut >>> was doing before? How do we make discoverable affordances for such >>> behaviors in the image? >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- >> >> Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry >> PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile >> >> > > >

Dec. 24, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] moose 5.0

by giorgio ferraris

Hi, Guys, I'm not (yet) working on Pharo (still VW and some VisualSmalltalk in the few time left free from my main job), but I follow what you do (not just you but all the community) and I have to admit you (all) work really hard. Bergel is doing a fantastic job, and your Moose is very nice, etc. But, I really liked the presentation of the GT stuff, I can understand the energy you put behind your work. Great work. I'm happy you are on the ST community and working on the language (ST) i like the most. Thanks! (Oh, I know you don't like to have Pharo called Smalltalk, but I don't like religion's wars, so that is yet smalltalk, for me). BTW: Happy Holidays to all. Giorgio On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: > *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* > > > Description > --- > > This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look > at these two trailers. > - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 > - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 > > The key highlights are: > - It is based on Pharo 3.0. > - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of > Moose. > - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many new > things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and several > new layouts. > - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. > - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the > main text editor. > - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. > - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager browser, > and it now comes with many object specific extensions. > - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined with > GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. > - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place > visualizations. > - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. > - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables > elegant island parsing. > > A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: > > http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… > > > Installation > --- > > The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ > moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip> > * > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-mac.zip*> > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ > moose_suite_5_0-win.zip > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip> > * > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-win.zip*> > - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ > moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip> > * > <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-linux.zi…> > > The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from > the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: > > ==Gofer new > == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; > == configuration; > == loadStable > > > Happy holidays! > The Moose team >

Dec. 24, 2014

[ann] moose 5.0

by Tudor Girba

We are happy to announce Moose 5.0: *http://moosetechnology.org/#install* Description --- This is by far the most extensive Moose release to date. Just take a look at these two trailers. - Spotter: https://vimeo.com/113832673 - Inspector: https://vimeo.com/103463364 The key highlights are: - It is based on Pharo 3.0. - Roassal2 is a complete reimplementation of the core visual engine of Moose. - Roassal2 replaced Roassal, EyeSee and Graph-ET, and it features many new things including smooth animations, new composeable builders and several new layouts. - All built-in Moose visualizations use Roassal2. - Glamour has been extended with a Pager browser and with Rubric as the main text editor. - GTSpotter is a new tool that makes it possible to find objects fast. - GTInspector saw major usability improvements based on the Pager browser, and it now comes with many object specific extensions. - GTPlayground provides a new way to handle scripts and when combined with GTInspector, it can replace the dedicated easels and editors. - Moose Finder has been extended with the ability of handling in place visualizations. - GTDebugger has been strengthen and was made more robust. - PetitParser has been extended with the notion of context which enables elegant island parsing. A list of issues addressed in this release can be found at: http://code.google.com/p/moose-technology/issues/list?can=1&q=status=Fixed%… Installation --- The Moose Suite 5.0 comes for each platform as a separate bundle: - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Mac>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-mac.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-mac.zip*> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Windows>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-win.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-win.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-win.zip*> - *Moose Suite 5.0 for Linux>http://moosetechnology.org/res/download/ moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_5_0-linux.zip> * <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/18323746/Moose/moose_suite_4_8-linux.zi…> The Moose Suite 5.0 can also be loaded in a Pharo 3.0 image either from the Configuration Browser, or by executing the following script: ==Gofer new == smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'Moose'; == configuration; == loadStable Happy holidays! The Moose team

Dec. 23, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Building agents in Pharo

by Andy Burnett

Doru wrote <<< Hi Andy, You can also just hook into GTSpotter. It already provides the infrastructure for handling parallel search and lets you focus only on specifying the search logic. Cheers, Doru >>> Brilliant! I am very impressed with GTSpotter. In fact, I am impressed with the whole GT suite. I think I will build a first prototype with Glamour and GTSpotter. By the way, what really motivated me to do this experiment is the tools - from the 90's - that were presented in this "Story of Siri" video. If you have the time, it is well worth watching. Being able to build this sort of capability into an environment like Pharo would be amazing https://wit.ai/blog/2014/12/18/adam-keynote Cheers Andy

Dec. 23, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] how do you use scripts?

by Offray Vladimir Luna CÃ¡rdenas

Hi, Here are my answers: El 12/12/14 a las 06:14, Tudor Girba escribiÃ³: > Hi, > > As input for designing new features that better support scripting in Pharo, we > would benefit from a bit more input around the role scripts play in your > development life. > > To this end, I would like to invite you to share your scripting experience. Here > are some questions to start from, but feel free to diverge: > > - What kind of actions do you put in scripts? Being a non programmer newbie with some experience python and some other scripting languages, scripts bridge the gap between pharo and my previous experiences in programming. I use scripts to: - Put everything that is not in a method or some concept test of something that would end in a method. - Run some code snippets when I'm catching up with the list and try to understand what the talk is about. - Ask questions more precisely trying to run minimal examples of my issues to focus the question. - Interchange text notes with code for making memories of my own understanding. > > - Do you rely on script files stored on the disk at all? > Yes. > - Where do you store your scripts (in one folder, in many folders)? In a ston file which contains my notes on different projects which doesn't conform to the class hierarchy/logic. I have attached my "Aprentice Notes" as an example. > - Do you version your scripts? Yes on fossil dvcs. > - Do you store them in separate files with dedicated names, or tend to put > multiple snippets in one larger file? One larger file in ston format. > - Do you rely on the names of the scripts? Yes and the hierarchy where they are located. See the attached screenshot. > - Why do you use a script file and not a class? > See first answer. Cheers, Offray

Dec. 23, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Question about Morphic in Pharo 4

by Sean P. DeNigris

stepharo wrote >> Morphic = make and understand any UI > This is not the case from my experience fighting with morphic. Agreed, of course ;) We were talking about intention, not implementation. In what little experience I have, I think that statement would be true full stop for Self's Morphic. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Question-about-Morphic-in-Pharo-4-tp4796331p4796783.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 23, 2014