December 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [Esug-list] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Thierry Goubier

2014-12-07 15:56 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Thanks, Stef. > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, stephane ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Last time I found myself looking for the sender of x but only inside the >> implementor of y. >> and of course I wanted to refactored them. And the default message >> browser is not parametrized via an environment :_ >> > > Exactly. This problem exists in any IDE I know. > AltBrowser has that type of search builtin. Not the refactoring step, still. RBEnvironment allows that easily, it's just that the tools are not designed for it. Thierry > > Doru > > >> Stef >> >> On 07 Dec 2014, at 05:14, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the >> Glamorous Toolkit: >> GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. >> >> GTSpotter has two goals: >> - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, >> and >> - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. >> >> We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow >> in Pharo. >> >> Here is a couple of screenshots: >> <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> >> <gtspotter-playground.png> >> >> >> A trailer is available here: >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU >> >> A detailed description is available here: >> http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter >> >> It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the >> instructions from: >> http://gt.moosetechnology.org >> >> Please let us know what you think. >> >> Enjoy, >> The Glamorous Team >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Esug-list] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Thanks, Stef. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:35 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Truly excellent! > I have to try :) > I read the blog (I love the marketing efforts and the documentation > effort) :) > Now do you a shortcut for finding a > - senders? > - a specific method of a class? > This first incarnation of the interface is meant to replace the top level search because that was easier. There is more to come, and we definitely will get to replace the senders, and integrate it even deeper in the workflow > Last time I found myself looking for the sender of x but only inside the > implementor of y. > and of course I wanted to refactored them. And the default message browser > is not parametrized via an environment :_ > Exactly. This problem exists in any IDE I know. Doru > Stef > > On 07 Dec 2014, at 05:14, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the > Glamorous Toolkit: > GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. > > GTSpotter has two goals: > - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and > - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. > > We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow > in Pharo. > > Here is a couple of screenshots: > <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> > <gtspotter-playground.png> > > > A trailer is available here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU > > A detailed description is available here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter > > It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the > instructions from: > http://gt.moosetechnology.org > > Please let us know what you think. > > Enjoy, > The Glamorous Team > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Thierry Goubier

Cool. Interesting. I recognize some of the patterns I use, but in a slightly different form. The widget look very nice and clean. I'd worry about having a very long top-level list, and I know that some of the search patterns are a bit less efficient than what I use today. I'm impressed by the amount of work going into that. Thierry 2014-12-07 14:14 GMT+01:00 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi, > > Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the > Glamorous Toolkit: > GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. > > GTSpotter has two goals: > - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and > - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. > > We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow > in Pharo. > > Here is a couple of screenshots: > [image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 3] > > > A trailer is available here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU > > A detailed description is available here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter > > It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the > instructions from: > http://gt.moosetechnology.org > > Please let us know what you think. > > Enjoy, > The Glamorous Team >

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Esug-list] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Yes, we will still evolve the UI. At the very least you will get the shortkeys directly on the actions. The answer to your question is in the blog post: GTSpotter offers an extra action: diving in a category. Pressing Cmd+Shift+ArrowRight dives in the collection object containing only the items from that category. Thus, we can continue refining the search inside the category. So, you will open the collection of that sub-category and you will see more items at once (not just 5). Is it clearer now? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hola, > > Andrei demoed it to me on friday and it is *extremely* cool. I canât wait > to start using it for my next development session. > > I have one request though (as I already mentioned to Andrei). Since you > are using a significant part of the screen, it would not be costly to (e.g. > at the bottom) put a small legend of the non-obvious keystroke > combinations. It would greatly increase discoverability of the features of > the tool. > > Considering the blog post, the legend would be ( I donât understand the > difference between the last 2): > Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive > into, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = ??? > > > On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:14, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to > the Glamorous Toolkit: > > GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. > > > > GTSpotter has two goals: > > - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, > and > > - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. > > > > We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow > in Pharo. > > > > Here is a couple of screenshots: > > <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> > <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> <gtspotter-playground.png> > > > > > > A trailer is available here: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU > > > > A detailed description is available here: > > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter > > > > It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the > instructions from: > > http://gt.moosetechnology.org > > > > Please let us know what you think. > > > > Enjoy, > > The Glamorous Team > > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list(a)lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Johan Fabry

Hola, Andrei demoed it to me on friday and it is *extremely* cool. I canât wait to start using it for my next development session. I have one request though (as I already mentioned to Andrei). Since you are using a significant part of the screen, it would not be costly to (e.g. at the bottom) put a small legend of the non-obvious keystroke combinations. It would greatly increase discoverability of the features of the tool. Considering the blog post, the legend would be ( I donât understand the difference between the last 2): Cmd+Shift+ArrowUp/ArrowDown = Next/Prev category, Cmd+RightArrow = Dive into, Cmd+Shift+RightArrow = ??? > On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:14, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the Glamorous Toolkit: > GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. > > GTSpotter has two goals: > - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and > - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. > > We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow in Pharo. > > Here is a couple of screenshots: > <gtspotter-packages-classes.png> <gtspotter-dive-class-method-sender.png> <gtspotter-playground.png> > > > A trailer is available here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU > > A detailed description is available here: > http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter > > It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the instructions from: > http://gt.moosetechnology.org > > Please let us know what you think. > > Enjoy, > The Glamorous Team ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Dec. 7, 2014

[ann] gtspotter: a moldable interface for spotting objects

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Alex Syrel, Andrei Chis and I are happy to announce a new addition to the Glamorous Toolkit: GTSpotter, a novel interface for spotting objects. GTSpotter has two goals: - Provide a uniform yet moldable interface that can work on any object, and - Handle searching through arbitrary levels of object nesting. We think this will have a significant impact on the development workflow in Pharo. Here is a couple of screenshots: [image: Inline image 2] [image: Inline image 1] [image: Inline image 3] A trailer is available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhSmjR3NOlU A detailed description is available here: http://www.humane-assessment.com/blog/introducing-gtspotter It works already in Pharo 3.0 and can be played with by following the instructions from: http://gt.moosetechnology.org Please let us know what you think. Enjoy, The Glamorous Team

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Emergency evaluator and GTGenericStackDebugger

by Tudor Girba

Hi, Could you make the image available? Cheers, Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edward Povazan <empovazan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you, > > For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* > ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the > error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency > Evaluator screen. > > -Ed > > On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open > the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load > the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, >> itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that >> when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is >> amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work >> deeper down. >> >> Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing >> that I had a problem, saved my image too. >> Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed >> *** with a huge amount of text. >> >> Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e >> >> Is this worth debugging? >> >> My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then >> reinstall GToolkit. >> Would this help? >> >> And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 >> image! >> Can someone tell me what they are called? >> >> Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! >> -Ed >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Emergency evaluator and GTGenericStackDebugger

by Edward Povazan

Thank you, For some reason there were a few. Reverted most. However all my Petit* ones trigger the same error when reloading them. I deleted them. But the error persists, as soon as I try open a Workspace I get the Emergency Evaluator screen. -Ed On Dec 7, 2014, at 12:21 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi, > > If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal. > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down. > > Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. > Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text. > > Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e > > Is this worth debugging? > > My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. > Would this help? > > And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! > Can someone tell me what they are called? > > Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! > -Ed > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 7, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Emergency evaluator and GTGenericStackDebugger

by Tudor Girba

Hi, If I understand correctly, you are on Pharo 3. What I suggest is to open the Monticello Browser and look at the changed packages. Then you can load the previous versions of those, and you should get back to normal. Cheers, Doru On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 6:08 AM, Edward Povazan <empovazan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, > itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that > when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is > amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work > deeper down. > > Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing > that I had a problem, saved my image too. > Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed > *** with a huge amount of text. > > Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e > > Is this worth debugging? > > My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then > reinstall GToolkit. > Would this help? > > And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 > image! > Can someone tell me what they are called? > > Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! > -Ed > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 7, 2014

Emergency evaluator and GTGenericStackDebugger

by Edward Povazan

Hello, Iâve been using Pharo for a while as my playground for trying things out, itâs a very soothing place to code and figure out algorithms (except that when I return to my âreal worldâ, the friction with modern tools is amplified). Iâm still a newb when it comes to knowing how things work deeper down. Iâm a little stuck. I did something (canât remember) and not realizing that I had a problem, saved my image too. Now when I try open a Workspace, I get a *** System error handling failed *** with a huge amount of text. Iâve uploaded a screen grab here: http://imgur.com/4ZwsF6e Is this worth debugging? My plan is to install the origin tools, and remove GToolkit. And then reinstall GToolkit. Would this help? And, how? I realize I donât know what tools are in the default Pharo3 image! Can someone tell me what they are called? Thanks! Canât wait to get back to the happy place! -Ed

Dec. 7, 2014