December 2014 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Left mouse button not working in Pharo 3.0

by David Boeren

That's OK, thanks for taking a look - I really appreciate it. At least I can work again and if the same issue happens I know now how to kill the bad windows and I will take better notes on exactly what I was doing just prior to the problem. Or, if it never happens again that would be fine too :) On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > wellâ¦ I cannot find what happened :P > > Esteban > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 15:51, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > OK, here is both the screenshot of the process browser and also the image > file... I am interested to see what you can find out, thanks! > > â > Pharo3.0.image > <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5lnOEY7qdXid0hOZFNlQlJyQkU/edit?usp=drive_…> > â > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:20 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> just upload your image file so we can take a look, one of the great >> things about pharo ;) you can also upload the whole pharo folder >> >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> can you share a screenshot of your processes? (World Menu/Tools/Process >>> Browsers) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10 Dec 2014, at 02:58, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Didn't seem to have any effect. The broken windows are still there, and >>> the file size is still 99.5MB. >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >>> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The size could have been the Monticello cache for all the stuff you >>>> loaded? >>>> In the big image try ImageCleaner new cleanUpForRelease, then save it >>>> and compare size. >>>> >>>> CHeers, >>>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is indeed quite strange. >>>>> >>>>> Le 9/12/14 14:31, dboeren a Ã©crit : >>>>> >>>>> OK, some progress. I made a copy of Pharo to experiment with and >>>>>> found >>>>>> World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits. >>>>>> >>>>>> This destroyed the three rogue windows and at least to a first glance >>>>>> the >>>>>> system is working correctly again. >>>>>> >>>>>> But, I also still have the original copy which is still >>>>>> malfunctioning. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ready for more weird? The broken copy of Pharo is 99.5MB. The >>>>>> working copy >>>>>> is only 70.2MB. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here is the full list of what I did to create the working copy: >>>>>> 1. Copy/paste the Pharo3.0 file in OSX Finder, rename it to "Pharo >>>>>> 3.0 >>>>>> test" >>>>>> 2. Open Pharo 3.0 Test >>>>>> 3. World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits >>>>>> 4. Recreate my 3 windows (Workspace, Transcript, Browser) and resize >>>>>> them >>>>>> to approximately the same layout I had before >>>>>> 5. Quit and save the new image >>>>>> >>>>>> So whatever was wrong with those three windows was taking up 29.3MB? >>>>>> That's >>>>>> really bizarre... >>>>>> >>>>>> If someone knows how to debug this sort of thing I can upload my >>>>>> corrupted >>>>>> copy to you and perhaps that would be the best way to shed some >>>>>> light, but >>>>>> at least I seem to have a working environment again so I can proceed >>>>>> on the >>>>>> next step of my program :) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Left- >>>>>> mouse-button-not-working-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4795107p4795126.html >>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>> Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mariano >>>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > <Screen Shot 2014-12-10 at 9.43.49 AM.png> > > >

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Left mouse button not working in Pharo 3.0

by Esteban Lorenzano

wellâ¦ I cannot find what happened :P Esteban > On 10 Dec 2014, at 15:51, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > OK, here is both the screenshot of the process browser and also the image file... I am interested to see what you can find out, thanks! > > â > Â Pharo3.0.image <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5lnOEY7qdXid0hOZFNlQlJyQkU/edit?usp=drive_…>â > > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:20 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com <mailto:kilon.alios@gmail.com>> wrote: > just upload your image file so we can take a look, one of the great things about pharo ;) you can also upload the whole pharo folder > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com <mailto:estebanlm@gmail.com>> wrote: > can you share a screenshot of your processes? (World Menu/Tools/Process Browsers) > > Esteban > > > >> On 10 Dec 2014, at 02:58, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com <mailto:boerend@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Didn't seem to have any effect. The broken windows are still there, and the file size is still 99.5MB. >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com <mailto:marianopeck@gmail.com>> wrote: >> The size could have been the Monticello cache for all the stuff you loaded? >> In the big image try ImageCleaner new cleanUpForRelease, then save it and compare size. >> >> CHeers, >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr <mailto:stepharo@free.fr>> wrote: >> This is indeed quite strange. >> >> Le 9/12/14 14:31, dboeren a Ã©crit : >> >> OK, some progress. I made a copy of Pharo to experiment with and found >> World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits. >> >> This destroyed the three rogue windows and at least to a first glance the >> system is working correctly again. >> >> But, I also still have the original copy which is still malfunctioning. >> >> Ready for more weird? The broken copy of Pharo is 99.5MB. The working copy >> is only 70.2MB. >> >> Here is the full list of what I did to create the working copy: >> 1. Copy/paste the Pharo3.0 file in OSX Finder, rename it to "Pharo 3.0 >> test" >> 2. Open Pharo 3.0 Test >> 3. World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits >> 4. Recreate my 3 windows (Workspace, Transcript, Browser) and resize them >> to approximately the same layout I had before >> 5. Quit and save the new image >> >> So whatever was wrong with those three windows was taking up 29.3MB? That's >> really bizarre... >> >> If someone knows how to debug this sort of thing I can upload my corrupted >> copy to you and perhaps that would be the best way to shed some light, but >> at least I seem to have a working environment again so I can proceed on the >> next step of my program :) >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Left-mouse-button-not-working-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4795107p… <http://forum.world.st/Left-mouse-button-not-working-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4795107p…> >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com <http://nabble.com/>. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com <http://marianopeck.wordpress.com/> >> > > > > <Screen Shot 2014-12-10 at 9.43.49 AM.png>

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Left mouse button not working in Pharo 3.0

by David Boeren

OK, here is both the screenshot of the process browser and also the image file... I am interested to see what you can find out, thanks! â Pharo3.0.image <https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5lnOEY7qdXid0hOZFNlQlJyQkU/edit?usp=drive_…> â On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 5:20 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > just upload your image file so we can take a look, one of the great things > about pharo ;) you can also upload the whole pharo folder > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> can you share a screenshot of your processes? (World Menu/Tools/Process >> Browsers) >> >> Esteban >> >> >> >> On 10 Dec 2014, at 02:58, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Didn't seem to have any effect. The broken windows are still there, and >> the file size is still 99.5MB. >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < >> marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The size could have been the Monticello cache for all the stuff you >>> loaded? >>> In the big image try ImageCleaner new cleanUpForRelease, then save it >>> and compare size. >>> >>> CHeers, >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> This is indeed quite strange. >>>> >>>> Le 9/12/14 14:31, dboeren a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>> OK, some progress. I made a copy of Pharo to experiment with and found >>>>> World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits. >>>>> >>>>> This destroyed the three rogue windows and at least to a first glance >>>>> the >>>>> system is working correctly again. >>>>> >>>>> But, I also still have the original copy which is still malfunctioning. >>>>> >>>>> Ready for more weird? The broken copy of Pharo is 99.5MB. The >>>>> working copy >>>>> is only 70.2MB. >>>>> >>>>> Here is the full list of what I did to create the working copy: >>>>> 1. Copy/paste the Pharo3.0 file in OSX Finder, rename it to "Pharo 3.0 >>>>> test" >>>>> 2. Open Pharo 3.0 Test >>>>> 3. World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits >>>>> 4. Recreate my 3 windows (Workspace, Transcript, Browser) and resize >>>>> them >>>>> to approximately the same layout I had before >>>>> 5. Quit and save the new image >>>>> >>>>> So whatever was wrong with those three windows was taking up 29.3MB? >>>>> That's >>>>> really bizarre... >>>>> >>>>> If someone knows how to debug this sort of thing I can upload my >>>>> corrupted >>>>> copy to you and perhaps that would be the best way to shed some light, >>>>> but >>>>> at least I seem to have a working environment again so I can proceed >>>>> on the >>>>> next step of my program :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Left- >>>>> mouse-button-not-working-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4795107p4795126.html >>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >>> >> >> >> >

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Erik Itter

THX, Nicolai and Thierry, that got me a few steps further and will try to get the rest by myself (at least for a few hours...).

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Nicolai Hess

2014-12-10 13:32 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks, tried > > scanSpecialCharacter > | character | > currentCharacter = $: > ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ currentCharacter = $= > ifTrue: [ > self step. > RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] > ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: > tokenStart ]]. > > currentCharacter = $: > ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ currentCharacter = $> > ifTrue: [ > self step. > RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] > ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: > tokenStart ]]. > > currentCharacter = $_ ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ RBShortAssignmentToken start: tokenStart ]. > > character := currentCharacter. > self step. > ^ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: character start: tokenStart > > but while it does not seem to shred my image to pieces it also seems to > have no effect at all. I guess the UI components still check differently > and neither workplace nor SystemBrowser allow me to write code using the :> > operator > > Am 10.12.2014 um 13:11 schrieb Thierry Goubier: > > Hi, > > If you are using the OpalCompiler (Pharo4, sure, Pharo3, I'm not so > sure), have a look at: > > RBScanner>>scanSpecialCharacter > > Thierry > > 2014-12-10 12:57 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to modify the compiler adding ":>" as an alias for ":=" for >> assignment. I have been reading all over the Compiler package but do not >> find where a tokenizer parses for the assignement operator or where it is >> defined. >> >> Any hint where to start or do it is appreciated. >> >> best regards >> Erik >> >> > > Hi Erik with Opal resp. RBScanner (in pharo3 and pharo4) There is a special handling for k:=1 and k := 1 because "k" can be an identifier, or the start of a selector (keyword message) therefore you have to change this too: RBScanner>>#scanIdentifierOrKeyword (currentCharacter = $: and: [stream peek ~= $=]) "<---- add a test for $>" ifTrue: [^self scanKeyword]. and the browsers/editor source code panel uses SHParserST80 for the syntax highlighting: SHParserST80>>#isAssignment ^ currentToken = ':=' or: [currentToken = '_'] "<---- add atest for $> " nicolai

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Thierry Goubier

Hi Erik, You need to make sure you are using the right compiler. In a Pharo3 image, you'll find two compilers: Opal and the old one. In the old one, you need to change: Scanner>>xColon In RB/Opal, what you can try with your changes is to inspect: RBParser parseExpression: 'a :> 5' And, if you get a RBAssignmentNode, then it is working. Thierry 2014-12-10 13:32 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com>: > Thanks, tried > > scanSpecialCharacter > | character | > currentCharacter = $: > ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ currentCharacter = $= > ifTrue: [ > self step. > RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] > ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: > tokenStart ]]. > > currentCharacter = $: > ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ currentCharacter = $> > ifTrue: [ > self step. > RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] > ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: > tokenStart ]]. > > currentCharacter = $_ ifTrue: [ > self step. > ^ RBShortAssignmentToken start: tokenStart ]. > > character := currentCharacter. > self step. > ^ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: character start: tokenStart > > but while it does not seem to shred my image to pieces it also seems to > have no effect at all. I guess the UI components still check differently > and neither workplace nor SystemBrowser allow me to write code using the :> > operator > > Am 10.12.2014 um 13:11 schrieb Thierry Goubier: > > Hi, > > If you are using the OpalCompiler (Pharo4, sure, Pharo3, I'm not so > sure), have a look at: > > RBScanner>>scanSpecialCharacter > > Thierry > > 2014-12-10 12:57 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com>: > >> Hi, >> >> I need to modify the compiler adding ":>" as an alias for ":=" for >> assignment. I have been reading all over the Compiler package but do not >> find where a tokenizer parses for the assignement operator or where it is >> defined. >> >> Any hint where to start or do it is appreciated. >> >> best regards >> Erik >> >> > >

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Erik Itter

Thanks, tried scanSpecialCharacter | character | currentCharacter = $: ifTrue: [ self step. ^ currentCharacter = $= ifTrue: [ self step. RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: tokenStart ]]. currentCharacter = $: ifTrue: [ self step. ^ currentCharacter = $> ifTrue: [ self step. RBAssignmentToken start: tokenStart] ifFalse: [ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: $: start: tokenStart ]]. currentCharacter = $_ ifTrue: [ self step. ^ RBShortAssignmentToken start: tokenStart ]. character := currentCharacter. self step. ^ RBSpecialCharacterToken value: character start: tokenStart but while it does not seem to shred my image to pieces it also seems to have no effect at all. I guess the UI components still check differently and neither workplace nor SystemBrowser allow me to write code using the :> operator Am 10.12.2014 um 13:11 schrieb Thierry Goubier: > Hi, > > If you are using the OpalCompiler (Pharo4, sure, Pharo3, I'm not so > sure), have a look at: > > RBScanner>>scanSpecialCharacter > > Thierry > > 2014-12-10 12:57 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com > <mailto:erik.itter@gmail.com>>: > > Hi, > > I need to modify the compiler adding ":>" as an alias for ":=" for > assignment. I have been reading all over the Compiler package but > do not find where a tokenizer parses for the assignement operator > or where it is defined. > > Any hint where to start or do it is appreciated. > > best regards > Erik > >

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Thierry Goubier

Hi, If you are using the OpalCompiler (Pharo4, sure, Pharo3, I'm not so sure), have a look at: RBScanner>>scanSpecialCharacter Thierry 2014-12-10 12:57 GMT+01:00 Erik Itter <erik.itter(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I need to modify the compiler adding ":>" as an alias for ":=" for > assignment. I have been reading all over the Compiler package but do not > find where a tokenizer parses for the assignement operator or where it is > defined. > > Any hint where to start or do it is appreciated. > > best regards > Erik > >

Dec. 10, 2014

modifying the compiler adding an alias for :=

by Erik Itter

Hi, I need to modify the compiler adding ":>" as an alias for ":=" for assignment. I have been reading all over the Compiler package but do not find where a tokenizer parses for the assignement operator or where it is defined. Any hint where to start or do it is appreciated. best regards Erik

Dec. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Left mouse button not working in Pharo 3.0

by kilon alios

just upload your image file so we can take a look, one of the great things about pharo ;) you can also upload the whole pharo folder On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > can you share a screenshot of your processes? (World Menu/Tools/Process > Browsers) > > Esteban > > > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 02:58, David Boeren <boerend(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Didn't seem to have any effect. The broken windows are still there, and > the file size is still 99.5MB. > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < > marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> The size could have been the Monticello cache for all the stuff you >> loaded? >> In the big image try ImageCleaner new cleanUpForRelease, then save it and >> compare size. >> >> CHeers, >> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:22 PM, stepharo <stepharo(a)free.fr> wrote: >> >>> This is indeed quite strange. >>> >>> Le 9/12/14 14:31, dboeren a Ã©crit : >>> >>> OK, some progress. I made a copy of Pharo to experiment with and found >>>> World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits. >>>> >>>> This destroyed the three rogue windows and at least to a first glance >>>> the >>>> system is working correctly again. >>>> >>>> But, I also still have the original copy which is still malfunctioning. >>>> >>>> Ready for more weird? The broken copy of Pharo is 99.5MB. The working >>>> copy >>>> is only 70.2MB. >>>> >>>> Here is the full list of what I did to create the working copy: >>>> 1. Copy/paste the Pharo3.0 file in OSX Finder, rename it to "Pharo 3.0 >>>> test" >>>> 2. Open Pharo 3.0 Test >>>> 3. World->Windows->DeleteAllWindowsDiscardingEdits >>>> 4. Recreate my 3 windows (Workspace, Transcript, Browser) and resize >>>> them >>>> to approximately the same layout I had before >>>> 5. Quit and save the new image >>>> >>>> So whatever was wrong with those three windows was taking up 29.3MB? >>>> That's >>>> really bizarre... >>>> >>>> If someone knows how to debug this sort of thing I can upload my >>>> corrupted >>>> copy to you and perhaps that would be the best way to shed some light, >>>> but >>>> at least I seem to have a working environment again so I can proceed on >>>> the >>>> next step of my program :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Left- >>>> mouse-button-not-working-in-Pharo-3-0-tp4795107p4795126.html >>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mariano >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> > > >

Dec. 10, 2014