October 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Frameworks Choice

by Tim Mackinnon

An approachable example of what you can do (I believe its using Spec as its UI glue) is PharoLauncher - it might be something worth studying as an example? Itâs on Smalltalk Hub. Tim On 17 Oct 2014, at 08:11, Craig <craig(a)hivemind.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm new to Pharo although not to Smalltalk. I did dabble with Dolphin about 20 years ago, when it was first being developed, and did some quite cool stuff. > > This time around I chose Pharo because I feel that Dolphin has strayed from the pure OO model that I enjoyed back then. > > I've chosen a fairly ambitious GUI project as my Pharo primer. The problem is - which GUI framework to use. The GUI that I want to build will be static but complex with a menu, 2 toolbars, 20 odd toolbar buttons, and 3 (dockable?) windows, containing Trees, lists and text editors. > > Any suggestions on which GUI framework would suit? > > I thought about using PolyMorph, but I cannot find the examples in my Pharo 3 image. > > Craig > > > > > > > >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Casts: http://www.pharocasts.com

by GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio

Thank you Laurent! I want to show your videos to some friends... Best regards. 2014-10-16 13:15 GMT-03:00 Laurent <laurent.laffont(a)gmail.com>: > Oups, forgot to renew the DNS..... should be up soon. > > Laurent > > Le jeu. 16 oct. 2014 Ã 15:49, GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio < > gaston.dalloglio(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > > Hello. > > It's down? Seems so: > http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/www.pharocasts.com > > Regards. > >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

by Alain Busser

great news. I finally made my little experiment with Scratch 1.4 (the one under Squeak) and they didn't like to program in Creole just because it is not their Creole (Reunion Island vs Haiti). As they are too lazy to "create the future") I will try to give the job to some who will be punished, as I will have to give them some work... Alain On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:48 PM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, > phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. > > The new features are: > > - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. > - cleaning a lot the source code > - customizable environment > - each block can be made visible or invisible > - each category can be made visible or invisible > - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma > <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the > translation more modular. > - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the > pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and > usable in phratch. > - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to > contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. > > See you on phratch.com > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Client cerificate authentication with ZnClient?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Attila, I just committed (into #bleedingEdge) : === Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.416 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 17 October 2014, 1:40:18.538322 pm UUID: 92867ea6-9aea-4631-a673-9f48a1fdecf8 Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.415 Add conceptual framework/code to work with TLS/SSL certificates from ZnClient Added ZnClient>>#certificate[:] Moved SSL session #connect logic from ZnNetworkingUtils>>#socketStreamToUrlDirectly: to ZnClient>>#newConnectionTo: and added optional certificate configuration of the plugin === Now this is untested and I suspect this will not work everywhere. I know that certificate support is non-existing for the Mac OS X implementation of the SSL plugin. I know that a server side certificate works on Linux (an obvious requirement for an HTTPS server of course). Please report back if you get this working client side. Thanks, Sven On 16 Oct 2014, at 21:05, Attila Magyar <m.magyar3(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Is certificate based authentication supported by ZnClient? > > Attila > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Client-cerificate-authentication-with-ZnClient-tp4784… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Excellent work. Thank you. On 17 Oct 2014, at 11:48, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. > > The new features are: > > - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. > - cleaning a lot the source code > - customizable environment > - each block can be made visible or invisible > - each category can be made visible or invisible > - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the translation more modular. > - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and usable in phratch. > - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. > > See you on phratch.com > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

by Robert Shiplett

Congrat's ! On 17 October 2014 06:48, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, > phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. > > The new features are: > > - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. > - cleaning a lot the source code > - customizable environment > - each block can be made visible or invisible > - each category can be made visible or invisible > - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma > <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the > translation more modular. > - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the > pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and > usable in phratch. > - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to > contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. > > See you on phratch.com > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

by kilon alios

great work jannik I still keep an open eye on phratch I have not forgot you , but I wanted to improve some things first before porting my code to Phratch. I will also have to think a correct approach for bringing blender and its game engine to phratch. But I still read the phratch source code and so far I like what I read :) On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > This is a great addition to the Pharo ecosystem. > > Thank you very much! > > Doru > > On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! >> >> Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. >> >> After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, >> phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. >> >> The new features are: >> >> - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. >> - cleaning a lot the source code >> - customizable environment >> - each block can be made visible or invisible >> - each category can be made visible or invisible >> - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma >> <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the >> translation more modular. >> - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the >> pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and >> usable in phratch. >> - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to >> contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. >> >> See you on phratch.com >> >> -- >> >> ~~Jannik Laval~~ >> Ãcole des Mines de Douai >> Enseignant-chercheur >> http://www.jannik-laval.eu >> http://www.phratch.com >> http://www.approchealpes.info >> http://car.mines-douai.fr/ >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Ann] Phratch 4.0

by Tudor Girba

This is a great addition to the Pharo ecosystem. Thank you very much! Doru On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 11:48 AM, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! > > Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. > > After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, > phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. > > The new features are: > > - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. > - cleaning a lot the source code > - customizable environment > - each block can be made visible or invisible > - each category can be made visible or invisible > - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma > <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the > translation more modular. > - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the > pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and > usable in phratch. > - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to > contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. > > See you on phratch.com > > -- > > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu > http://www.phratch.com > http://www.approchealpes.info > http://car.mines-douai.fr/ > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Oct. 17, 2014

[Ann] Phratch 4.0

by jannik laval

Phratch 4.0 is out of the box ! Phratch 4.0 is cleaner, faster and more stable than phratch 3.0. After the version 3.0 that was a release for usability and stability, phratch 4.0 is released to prepare the future. The new features are: - phratch is more modular, eg having a kernel and lots of addons. - cleaning a lot the source code - customizable environment - each block can be made visible or invisible - each category can be made visible or invisible - it is possible to add translation for addons with the pragma <phratchTranslation: âfrâ> in the class PhratchTranslator. This make the translation more modular. - first integration of phratch with the pharo environment. Using the pragma at the class side of any class in Pharo make the class visible and usable in phratch. - There is a lot of things to do with phratch, you are welcome to contribute ! The documentation for new features will arrive soon. See you on phratch.com -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu http://www.phratch.com http://www.approchealpes.info http://car.mines-douai.fr/

Oct. 17, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] GUI Frameworks Choice

by kilon alios

Pharo has a single AFAIK GUI API , Morphic. Anything else uses Morphic to draw its own widgets so those API are more like helper apis . Which means a good knowledge of morphic will always benefit you. Spec is the new kid in the block and it has been a preferred choice for most pharoers , many pharo widgets that come distributed with pharo are built with Spec. Also Spec is the most documented one with a dedicated chapter at Pharo for the Enterprise book. On experimental side there is Mars , never tried myself , it gives access to GTK and native gui APIs. I have also tried to port pyQT to pharo via my project Ephestos, I have run to some problems because QT is very touchy with threads and its also inside a blocking event loop but I have found some workarounds. Cant say when but I will bring QT to Pharo sooner or later. So my advice would be to give Spec a try for now. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Craig <craig(a)hivemind.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm new to Pharo although not to Smalltalk. I did dabble with Dolphin > about 20 years ago, when it was first being developed, and did some quite > cool stuff. > > This time around I chose Pharo because I feel that Dolphin has strayed > from the pure OO model that I enjoyed back then. > > I've chosen a fairly ambitious GUI project as my Pharo primer. The > problem is - which GUI framework to use. The GUI that I want to build will > be static but complex with a menu, 2 toolbars, 20 odd toolbar buttons, and > 3 (dockable?) windows, containing Trees, lists and text editors. > > Any suggestions on which GUI framework would suit? > > I thought about using PolyMorph, but I cannot find the examples in my > Pharo 3 image. > > Craig > > > > > > > > >

Oct. 17, 2014