January 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Life, Ukraine, Developers

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

http://www.slideshare.net/NazarBartosik/what-is-really-happening-in-ukraine Pretty scary. On 22 Jan 2014, at 19:06, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > My dear Pharo friends, > > I have no idea if you are aware, but now a big country named Ukraine is facing a very hard times. People are fighting for their rights while the current government tries to convert the country into Somalia - like regime. > > Why should you care? Because you will like Ukrainians. And referring to the context: we develop a lot. If you are not familiar: https://github.com/fre5h/DoctrineEnumBundle/pull/12 > > I donât want to cry here, but me, Igor Stasenko and some other pharo developers are from Ukraine, and we are extremely worried about our Home. I just ask you to think about our country for a minute. Tell your friends: âYou know, there is this nice country called Ukraine, where people are being shot just because they want to have a freedom of speechâ. And if you believe in God, please say a short prayer for Ukraine, I trust that this is important. > > Sorry guys for taking your time, but I was touched by this pull request and just wanted to share what is happening around. > Cheers! > Uko

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2014-01-27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > On 27 Jan 2014, at 17:12, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I changed the default directories on all systems: > > > > - mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Pharo/images > > - win: %APPDATA%\Pharo\images > > - unix: ~/.local/share/Pharo/images > > I already told you: I think this is conceptually wrong. Images has to go (by default) into "~/Documents/Pharo Images". (Same as VMWare virtual machines go into "~/Documents/Virtual Machines" and parallels into â~/Documents/Parallels" > al the rest: +1 :) +1 on this. %APPDATA% is for data that the end user would never have to access directly. Remember that such dir is hidden. I remember this discussion in the Dolphin Smalltalk newsgroup almost a decade ago, when somebody asked why Dolphin installed the images in the "My Documents" folder. At that time Andy Bower pointed to a guideline doc with the proper reasons (which I happen to not remember). On the other hand, the executable was installed in the %ProgramFiles% directory, and some commons in the "%ProgramFiles%\Common Files", that were shared between different versions of Dolphin. Regards, Esteban.

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > A problem I have with pharoLaunher is that I want to help out to improve it > but I cant for the life of me figure out the code. I think the most > important thing is to document it so it will allow people like me to improve > it easier. I dont expect anyone to tell me exactly how each method works but > at least how the overall code works should be a good start. Because I dont > want to fight with the code to understand it. I spend many hours with it, > still cant figure it out . I don't know how to help. Please tell me where are the problems. What I did: - comment nearly all classes - rename each method at least 3 times - categorize all methods - write unit-tests - answer all questions I got about the code -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Esteban Lorenzano

On 27 Jan 2014, at 17:12, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Mark Bestley <st(a)bestley.co.uk> wrote: >> 1) Setting of the default directories - these should be more Apple standard >> i.e. images not in preferences and even better in a Sandbox so eventually >> could be available via App Store which would increase the number of people >> who would see it. (I have use the settings to change the directory for me.) > > > I changed the default directories on all systems: > > - mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Pharo/images > - win: %APPDATA%\Pharo\images > - unix: ~/.local/share/Pharo/images I already told you: I think this is conceptually wrong. Images has to go (by default) into "~/Documents/Pharo Images". (Same as VMWare virtual machines go into "~/Documents/Virtual Machines" and parallels into â~/Documents/Parallels" al the rest: +1 :) Esteban > > And everyone can change these values to what they want like a dropbox > folder (just go to the launcher settings, change the path, and save). > > >> 2) Dealing with saved images. If you do a save as.. the this new image does >> not show in the launcher. >> I think there are two ways of fixing this >> i) don't put images and source in sub directories >> ii) Make the save as in Pharo create a sub directory > > > agree. I think I will try another solution > > iii) when launching an image, if multiple ones are present, let the > user select with a drop-down. These ways, the concept of a "launcher's > image" can still be seen as a project whereas the .image files can be > seen as versions of this project. > > >> Point ii) leads onto making the save of an image save to an OSX bundle (i.e. >> a directory containing several files that OSX can see as one unit) > > > I don't understand that > > >> 3) The icons need to have more responsive pop-overs to explain what they >> do.(I almost wrote any pop-over but after a minute I can get them 30% of the >> time) > > > I don't understand that as well > > >> 4) For first time users I think the right pane needs a look at - users will >> not know which is the correct template to use. I would suggest making the >> Pharo latest stable a top level entry and highlighting that. > > > agree, I will fix that > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Mark Bestley <st(a)bestley.co.uk> wrote: > 1) Setting of the default directories - these should be more Apple standard > i.e. images not in preferences and even better in a Sandbox so eventually > could be available via App Store which would increase the number of people > who would see it. (I have use the settings to change the directory for me.) I changed the default directories on all systems: - mac: ~/Library/Application Support/Pharo/images - win: %APPDATA%\Pharo\images - unix: ~/.local/share/Pharo/images And everyone can change these values to what they want like a dropbox folder (just go to the launcher settings, change the path, and save). > 2) Dealing with saved images. If you do a save as.. the this new image does > not show in the launcher. > I think there are two ways of fixing this > i) don't put images and source in sub directories > ii) Make the save as in Pharo create a sub directory agree. I think I will try another solution iii) when launching an image, if multiple ones are present, let the user select with a drop-down. These ways, the concept of a "launcher's image" can still be seen as a project whereas the .image files can be seen as versions of this project. > Point ii) leads onto making the save of an image save to an OSX bundle (i.e. > a directory containing several files that OSX can see as one unit) I don't understand that > 3) The icons need to have more responsive pop-overs to explain what they > do.(I almost wrote any pop-over but after a minute I can get them 30% of the > time) I don't understand that as well > 4) For first time users I think the right pane needs a look at - users will > not know which is the correct template to use. I would suggest making the > Pharo latest stable a top level entry and highlighting that. agree, I will fix that -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download on pharo.org?

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > I would start by featuring it more prominently on the download page while explaining clearly what it does. Maybe it also needs its own documentation/promotion web page. that's a chicken and egg problem. If nobody uses it, we can't make it very visible on the pharo.org website but if we don't, nobody will use it. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoLauncher as the default Pharo download

by Damien Cassou

On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Andy Burnett < andy.burnett(a)knowinnovation.com> wrote: > Obviously, we can do all of this, but it has never been quite as obvious > as I would like it to be. if you go to the settings of Pharo Launcher, you can now choose where your images should be. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Jan. 27, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Commits of two last week

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Nice, nice ! On 27 Jan 2014, at 10:23, Pharo4Stef <pharo4Stef(a)free.fr> wrote: > http://association.pharo.org/web/weekly/Commits-Jan-1 Would it be possible to have these summaries for the past as well ?

Jan. 27, 2014

Commits of two last week

by Pharo4Stef

http://association.pharo.org/web/weekly/Commits-Jan-1

Jan. 27, 2014

Pharoers in San Francisco

by Pharo4Stef

Hi guys I will visit San francisco and I was wondering if some of you are living there. Because we could meet. Stef

Jan. 26, 2014