January 2014 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Phratch acknowledgement?

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

You are right, Bernat: in open source we build on an immense amount of work done by many developers all over the world and we should always recognise that properly, that is only fair. At least for me, I contribute to open source just because I am grateful for what I received and I want to give something back. Open source software is a prime example of planet wide human collaboration as it should be. Hopefully your request will be heard by those who can fix the (probably unintentional) omission. Sven On 10 Jan 2014, at 16:52, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I had to write it down. > > I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people know that the project had been taken over by another team. > > We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. > > The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat when the Phratch team took over. > > I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take very seriously. > > :) > > Best, > Bernat. > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

Jan. 10, 2014

Roassal visualizations

by Rosario Santa Marina

Hi, I'm trying to develop some Twitter data visualizations using Roassal. I want to know if there are a complete list of builders and visualizations that are already implemented which i could use. Thanks, Rosario

Jan. 10, 2014

Phratch acknowledgement?

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi all, I'm not sure this is the proper place to discuss this, but I just felt I had to write it down. I've just been taking a look at the Phratch GoogleCode site and I've noticed there is not a single mention of where the project comes from... As an opposite example, when Phratch started out a couple years ago, we were really fast and careful to put out a notice in the Scat site letting people know that the project had been taken over by another team. We spent months filing out code from Scratch -a Squeak 2.8 image with barely any tools available-, we fixed hundreds of issues, we recorded screenshots, we documented every step we followed, we implemented a way to save and load projects via Fuel, we got the original Scratch media plugins to work, etc. but there is no mention of any of this anywhere. The amount of work we put in the -unfortunately named- Scat project is huge. We spent more than a year (even some 3-4 months full-time) in it, and I don't think it's egocentric at all to ask for a little recognition of who were the people behind the original project and what was the state of Scat when the Phratch team took over. I don't mean to sound angry, I'm not. I'm sure no information was omitted in bad faith, but recognition of other people's work is something I take very seriously. :) Best, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.

Jan. 10, 2014

OAuth2 Authentication Server available?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Anybody implemented OAuth2 as a server in Pharo? It is, token generation, management, invalidation, etc. I want to integrate the auth of our app to the native "AccountsManager" of Android, but for that I'd need a way to validate the tokens (or revoke them) server side. Regargs, Esteban A. Maringolo

Jan. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3 beta impressions : SystemBrowser on first visit to new install

by Marcus Denker

On 10 Jan 2014, at 14:46, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 10 Jan 2014, at 14:33, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> >> 2014/1/10 Robert Shiplett <grshiplett(a)gmail.com> >> 1) on first open after install on Windows, the SystemBrowser shows a list of class names in LastModified classes - but I have modified no classes in this image >> >> This list is from Recent Messages List (World Menu / Tools / Recent Messages). Not only your changes. >> > This is because I disabled image cleanUp last week for checking if that was the source for the crashâ¦ It is on my TODO to add this again. > I committed a new ScriptLoader that does itâ¦ it will be picked up next some an update is prepared. Marcus

Jan. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3 beta impressions : SystemBrowser on first visit to new install

by Marcus Denker

> > > 2) on Quit no Save, even after selecting not to Save a second time, the pointer flips to show WRITING TO DISK which was surprising and also seemed not quite as one might expect > > This disturbed me too, but I think this was always there, all Pharo versions and even on Squeak. I fixed itâ¦ https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12612/Do-not-show-image-save-mouse-icon-w… The reason was that it has Cursor write showWhile: [ Smalltalk snapshot: save andQuit: true. ] so it uses the write hand even when save is false. Marcus

Jan. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3 beta impressions : SystemBrowser on first visit to new install

by Marcus Denker

On 10 Jan 2014, at 14:33, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > 2014/1/10 Robert Shiplett <grshiplett(a)gmail.com> > 1) on first open after install on Windows, the SystemBrowser shows a list of class names in LastModified classes - but I have modified no classes in this image > > This list is from Recent Messages List (World Menu / Tools / Recent Messages). Not only your changes. > This is because I disabled image cleanUp last week for checking if that was the source for the crashâ¦ It is on my TODO to add this again. Marcus

Jan. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3 beta impressions : SystemBrowser on first visit to new install

by Nicolai Hess

2014/1/10 Robert Shiplett <grshiplett(a)gmail.com> > 1) on first open after install on Windows, the SystemBrowser shows a list > of class names in LastModified classes - but I have modified no classes in > this image > This list is from Recent Messages List (World Menu / Tools / Recent Messages). Not only your changes. > > 2) on Quit no Save, even after selecting not to Save a second time, the > pointer flips to show WRITING TO DISK which was surprising and also seemed > not quite as one might expect > This disturbed me too, but I think this was always there, all Pharo versions and even on Squeak. > > 3) the title bar changes to SystemBrowser seemed more like bread-crumbs > ... and displayed previous package name even after a single select in the > list even if that previous package had not been entered. Perhaps this is > optional behavior for the browser title bar ? Loosing one's place in a > browser has long been a fact of life, but is this intended to track where I > was last ? But I was not THERE ( I had not viewed a single item in that > package ) > > Yes it is a bug in the SystemBrowser (PackageTreeNautilus a subclass of Nautilus). It works in Nautilus ( Try with "Nauilus open" in a workspace). There are still many little bugs in the SystemBrowser. Thank you for testing and reporting back. Nicolai

Jan. 10, 2014

Pharo 3 beta impressions : SystemBrowser on first visit to new install

by Robert Shiplett

1) on first open after install on Windows, the SystemBrowser shows a list of class names in LastModified classes - but I have modified no classes in this image 2) on Quit no Save, even after selecting not to Save a second time, the pointer flips to show WRITING TO DISK which was surprising and also seemed not quite as one might expect 3) the title bar changes to SystemBrowser seemed more like bread-crumbs ... and displayed previous package name even after a single select in the list even if that previous package had not been entered. Perhaps this is optional behavior for the browser title bar ? Loosing one's place in a browser has long been a fact of life, but is this intended to track where I was last ? But I was not THERE ( I had not viewed a single item in that package ) NOTE : to see the browser title changes 1) select classes last changed ( top item left list ) 2) select a class ( I selected Komiter ) 3) single click elsewhere in the left list ( I selected as AST package ) 4) single click on your "where I intend to view a class package" - but the browser title bar still shows you as in that AST package that you never entered ... Or I have been on Android and in workbench-ed eclipse-fer-Java too much of late ;-) robert Canada

Jan. 10, 2014

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Two videos to explain what we do when integrating a fix.

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 07 Jan 2014, at 10:57, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Thanks, Stef, I will have a look in the coming days. > Now I wonât have many excuses not to try ;-) And I did, and it worked ! #30683 Thanks for all the help, the screencasts really helped to increase my confidence, the git and CI integration is really seriously impressive. > On 06 Jan 2014, at 16:18, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> Hi guys >> >> I produced two videos to show how simple is an integration now (It could be better see below). >> This can influence some of you to help us: sven, ben, igor :)? >> >> First one: install some scripts >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Videos/PharoIntegration/DownloadingScripts.… >> >> Second one >> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/Videos/PharoIntegration/integratingAChange.… >> >> ./prepare >> start menu >> merge 9look at the fixâ¦.) >> freeze menu >> publish menu >> ./publish >> >> I do not think that Monticello is the best tool for managing our changes and code (and I asked money in the past to get an engineer but it was refused and I spent the holiday building a new case to ask money to pay an engineer to >> get a real integration with Git) but for now this is what we have and it is working. I do not want that end users to get expose to >> git on the command-line with different platforms. We should keep the simplicity of Pharo. >> >> Stef >> >> >

Jan. 10, 2014