September 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

in fact grease should be loaded from SmHUB/Seaside/MetacelloConfigurations/ then the stable version loads version but still have dirty package because the configurations do not load the package where the trrimboth are removed from grease. I reported that to Stefan Eggermont and waiting for his answer. I thought that damien cassou addressed this because we had that problem in Moose. Stef > I can confirm the problem with #trimBoth, strange though that it does not simply override the system version but removes it. > > On 2013-09-24, at 19:35, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> Ok, the cause should be that a project I loaded pulled in Grease from squeaksource/Seaside30. In the package Grease-Core-NickAger.70 there are method extensions for String>>#trimBoth et al. For the current pharo these are overrides. So probably seaside tried to update grease and thus removing the methods from the system. As this is a image for playing I loaded all kinds of stuff so I need some time to figure out which package it was. >> >> Norbert >> >> Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: >> >>> Strange the build is green: >>> >>> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ >>> >>> What kind of error do you get? >>> Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? >>> >>> On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >>>> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >>>> >>>> Norbert >>> >> >> >

Sept. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Esteban A. Maringolo

What do people use RFB for? A remote interactive REPL could be useful too. Regards, Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/24 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:08 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi guys, > > I am having this problem and it is very very easy to reproduce for me. And > it is in Mac, not Linux. I took a latest Pharo 2.0 image Latest update: > #20619, and a Mac VM of Mar 13 2013. Open a workspace and evaluate: > > Gofer it > smalltalkhubUser: 'PharoExtras' project: 'RFB'; > configuration; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRFB) load. > (Smalltalk at: #RFBServer) start. > Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: false > > And it will freeze. If I save the image with the RFBServer running, my > image freezes. If the server is stopped while saving, there is no problem. > The hung seems to be AFTER the image save itself, because if I kill the > process and start again, the image was saved. Also...if you do SAVE AND > QUITE, it has NO PROBLEM. If I do Smalltalk snapshot: true andQuit: true. > the image is saved and when I open it back, it is OK. > > > We need to really re-think if it is a good idea to deploy systems with > code that is not part of the development cycle of Pharo. > (read: what people get out of RFB needs to be part of the system itself) > > Marcus > >

Sept. 25, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Camillo Bruni

I can confirm the problem with #trimBoth, strange though that it does not simply override the system version but removes it. On 2013-09-24, at 19:35, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Ok, the cause should be that a project I loaded pulled in Grease from squeaksource/Seaside30. In the package Grease-Core-NickAger.70 there are method extensions for String>>#trimBoth et al. For the current pharo these are overrides. So probably seaside tried to update grease and thus removing the methods from the system. As this is a image for playing I loaded all kinds of stuff so I need some time to figure out which package it was. > > Norbert > > Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > >> Strange the build is green: >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ >> >> What kind of error do you get? >> Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? >> >> On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >>> >>> Norbert >> > >

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Norbert Hartl

Ok, the cause should be that a project I loaded pulled in Grease from squeaksource/Seaside30. In the package Grease-Core-NickAger.70 there are method extensions for String>>#trimBoth et al. For the current pharo these are overrides. So probably seaside tried to update grease and thus removing the methods from the system. As this is a image for playing I loaded all kinds of stuff so I need some time to figure out which package it was. Norbert Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > Strange the build is green: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ > > What kind of error do you get? > Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? > > On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >> >> Norbert >

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by phil＠highoctane.be

This is how I load it at the moment. http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~philippeback/HOWebStack It would be great to have TwitterBoostrap on smalltalkhub as well as it still lives on SS3. In 3.0 the status/ app is broken. 3.1 fixes it but I've but my own things in there. It works with one app, albeit I do have some issues I'll look after tomorrow morning as I am developing a new application based on that codebase. Phil

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Norbert Hartl

Ok, I loaded some other packages before seaside. From a fresh image I get only a warning when loading. Need to investigate more. Norbert Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > Strange the build is green: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ > > What kind of error do you get? > Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? > > On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >> >> Norbert >

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Norbert Hartl

Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > Strange the build is green: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ > > What kind of error do you get? > Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? > What version does it load? And the build is building grease first and seaside as an artefact copy build-upon. Metacello is IMHO able to different things if you load the things separately. I'm trying to load grease first, too. Norbert > On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >> >> Norbert >

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Norbert Hartl

Am 25.09.2013 um 00:09 schrieb Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > Strange the build is green: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ > > What kind of error do you get? > Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? > It is an image I pulled just from get.pharo.org. The problem is that String>>#trimBoth is missing. The basic image has it. After trying to load seaside I see that there are *grease-core extensions on the same method. What is really strange is that the trimBoth message is missing while loading. That shouldn't even happen for overrides. Until now I don't have more information. norbert > On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? >> >> Norbert >

Sept. 24, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] How to load seaside currently?

by Camillo Bruni

Strange the build is green: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/Seaside/ What kind of error do you get? Does it happen the same way when you download on of the images from Jenkins? On 2013-09-24, at 19:03, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? > > Norbert

Sept. 24, 2013

How to load seaside currently?

by Norbert Hartl

When loading seaside3 from the configuration browser it will break the image badly. It isn't even possible to open a system browser after that. What is the best way to load it manually? Or better is there something new so the configuration browser can be directed to a better config? Norbert

Sept. 24, 2013