September 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Laser Game

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 5, 2013, at 9:27 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Used RectangleMorph, still doesn't work. Obviously, it's because of some methods of SketchMorph that are used. > I have the feeling that the code is just too tied to an old version of Squeak. Getting it to work will be more a rewrite, not a small fix. Marcus > > 2013/9/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > I should look at the tutorial because it looks really strange to me to use a sketchMorph for a board game. > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:09 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I thought about that:) SketchMorph is used to create game board, so I need it. >> Can I use some other Morph? >> >> Mark >> >> >> 2013/9/3 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:07 PM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I was dealing with laser game on pharo and found two problems. >>> 1. LedMorph is missing but it's ok, I downloaded it (Morphic Extras). >> >> you cn find it under my repository on Smalltalkhub >> >>> 2.SketchMorph is missing too, and I have some difficulties with it. When trying to load it (Morphic Basic) with Monticello browser an error occurs. >>> Any ideas? >> >> Remove reference to SketchMorph. >> >> Stef >> >>> >>> >>> 2013/9/2 ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> >>> Thanks) >>> >>> >>> 2013/9/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> >>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> yes it can. This is where your adventure begins :) >>>> >>>> Also I think that I may be easier to follow the tutorial step by step with Pharo. Then you'll solve problems just when they appear and not end up with a tons of unknown stuff. >>> >>> ;) >>> >>>> >>>> Uko >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 15:02, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> As was suggested above I tried to load Laser Game on Pharo 2.0 and it didn't work. >>>>> Can this problem be solved? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/8/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:11 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, everyone! >>>>>> I have been working on a tutorial 'how to make a game using smalltalk' and developed this game ( Laser Game ) on Squeak, as it is an example of development on Squeak. I'm learning, so it's a great experience for me. Laser Game is my first game and it's not complicated, but for me it took long time to make. >>>>>> Links: >>>>>> 1. http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ - website of tutorial >>>>>> 2. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/LaserGame/source - Laser Game >>>>>> Comments are welcome:) >>>>> >>>>> I thought that you were doing it on Pharo. >>>>> It would be good to have it on pharo and to know what are the changes at the morphic level. >>>>>> Mark >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Sept. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Laser Game

by ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½

Used RectangleMorph, still doesn't work. Obviously, it's because of some methods of SketchMorph that are used. 2013/9/5 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > I should look at the tutorial because it looks really strange to me to use > a sketchMorph for a board game. > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:09 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I thought about that:) SketchMorph is used to create game board, so I > need it. > Can I use some other Morph? > > Mark > > > 2013/9/3 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > >> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:07 PM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I was dealing with laser game on pharo and found two problems. >> 1. LedMorph is missing but it's ok, I downloaded it (Morphic Extras). >> >> >> you cn find it under my repository on Smalltalkhub >> >> 2.SketchMorph is missing too, and I have some difficulties with it. When >> trying to load it (Morphic Basic) with Monticello browser an error occurs. >> Any ideas? >> >> >> Remove reference to SketchMorph. >> >> Stef >> >> >> >> 2013/9/2 ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Thanks) >>> >>> >>> 2013/9/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> yes it can. This is where your adventure begins :) >>>> >>>> Also I think that I may be easier to follow the tutorial step by step >>>> with Pharo. Then you'll solve problems just when they appear and not end up >>>> with a tons of unknown stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> Uko >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 15:02, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> As was suggested above I tried to load Laser Game on Pharo 2.0 and it >>>> didn't work. >>>> Can this problem be solved? >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/8/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:11 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, everyone! >>>>> I have been working on a tutorial 'how to make a game using smalltalk' >>>>> and developed this game ( Laser Game ) on Squeak, as it is an example of >>>>> development on Squeak. I'm learning, so it's a great experience for me. >>>>> Laser Game is my first game and it's not complicated, but for me it took >>>>> long time to make. >>>>> Links: >>>>> 1. http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ - website of tutorial >>>>> 2. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/LaserGame/source - Laser Game >>>>> Comments are welcome:) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I thought that you were doing it on Pharo. >>>>> It would be good to have it on pharo and to know what are the changes >>>>> at the morphic level. >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > >

Sept. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Laser Game

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I should look at the tutorial because it looks really strange to me to use a sketchMorph for a board game. On Sep 4, 2013, at 11:09 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I thought about that:) SketchMorph is used to create game board, so I need it. > Can I use some other Morph? > > Mark > > > 2013/9/3 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > On Sep 3, 2013, at 12:07 PM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I was dealing with laser game on pharo and found two problems. >> 1. LedMorph is missing but it's ok, I downloaded it (Morphic Extras). > > you cn find it under my repository on Smalltalkhub > >> 2.SketchMorph is missing too, and I have some difficulties with it. When trying to load it (Morphic Basic) with Monticello browser an error occurs. >> Any ideas? > > Remove reference to SketchMorph. > > Stef > >> >> >> 2013/9/2 ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> >> Thanks) >> >> >> 2013/9/2 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> >> On Sep 2, 2013, at 2:05 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> yes it can. This is where your adventure begins :) >>> >>> Also I think that I may be easier to follow the tutorial step by step with Pharo. Then you'll solve problems just when they appear and not end up with a tons of unknown stuff. >> >> ;) >> >>> >>> Uko >>> >>> >>> On 2 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 15:02, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> As was suggested above I tried to load Laser Game on Pharo 2.0 and it didn't work. >>>> Can this problem be solved? >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/8/16 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >>>> >>>> On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:11 AM, ÐÐ°ÑÐºÑÑÐ½ Ð ÑÐ·ÑÐ½ <mrizun(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, everyone! >>>>> I have been working on a tutorial 'how to make a game using smalltalk' and developed this game ( Laser Game ) on Squeak, as it is an example of development on Squeak. I'm learning, so it's a great experience for me. Laser Game is my first game and it's not complicated, but for me it took long time to make. >>>>> Links: >>>>> 1. http://squeak.preeminent.org/tut2007/html/ - website of tutorial >>>>> 2. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~MarkRizun/LaserGame/source - Laser Game >>>>> Comments are welcome:) >>>> >>>> I thought that you were doing it on Pharo. >>>> It would be good to have it on pharo and to know what are the changes at the morphic level. >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > >

Sept. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 4, 2013, at 6:30 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > I was using 2.0 > Yes, this is what I understood from the original report. Marcus

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Paul DeBruicker

On 09/04/2013 09:31 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > Paul are you also using DBXTalk just by chance in that image? > > Cheers, No I haven't used DBXTalk yet.

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Mariano Martinez Peck

mmmmmm DBXTalk and image save sounded a bell... When we developed OpenDBXDriver, we idea was to make it as simple as possible for the final user. One thing we did was to automatically disconnect all opened connections at system shutdown...so that not to let connections open in the DB. Now I realized that we have this: DBXConnection class >> shutDown self allInstancesDo: [:each | each shutDown] but it should actually be DBXConnection class >> shutDown: quitting quitting ifTrue: [ self allInstancesDo: [:each | each shutDown] I fixed this some time ago (OpenDBXDriver-MarianoMartinezPeck.38) Maybe this could be related? Paul are you also using DBXTalk just by chance in that image? Cheers, On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > phil was working with 3.0 (afaik) > mariano was having problems with flushing monticello caches. > > I think it was not the same. > > Esteban > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem reported > in pharo2. > >> Of course if it is, we will backport. > >> But "inflation" problem in ph3 is very consistent and repeatable, the > problem reported in ph2... well, I never seen it before, and we have just > one report (and I assume that we have more than one hundred production > projects with that version). > >> So is likely something different (also some of the detected leaks are > due to changes in ph3, not present in the older version). > >> > >> Esteban > > > > > > heres two more reports about image size in another thread (Phil & > Mariano): > > > > > http://forum.world.st/Large-images-reasons-WAS-Re-Pharo-2-0-with-Seaside-DB… > > > > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by phil＠highoctane.be

I was using 2.0 --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > phil was working with 3.0 (afaik) > mariano was having problems with flushing monticello caches. > > I think it was not the same. > > Esteban > > On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem reported > in pharo2. > >> Of course if it is, we will backport. > >> But "inflation" problem in ph3 is very consistent and repeatable, the > problem reported in ph2... well, I never seen it before, and we have just > one report (and I assume that we have more than one hundred production > projects with that version). > >> So is likely something different (also some of the detected leaks are > due to changes in ph3, not present in the older version). > >> > >> Esteban > > > > > > heres two more reports about image size in another thread (Phil & > Mariano): > > > > > http://forum.world.st/Large-images-reasons-WAS-Re-Pharo-2-0-with-Seaside-DB… > > > > > > > > > >

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Esteban Lorenzano

phil was working with 3.0 (afaik) mariano was having problems with flushing monticello caches. I think it was not the same. Esteban On Sep 4, 2013, at 5:32 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: >> I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem reported in pharo2. >> Of course if it is, we will backport. >> But "inflation" problem in ph3 is very consistent and repeatable, the problem reported in ph2... well, I never seen it before, and we have just one report (and I assume that we have more than one hundred production projects with that version). >> So is likely something different (also some of the detected leaks are due to changes in ph3, not present in the older version). >> >> Esteban > > > heres two more reports about image size in another thread (Phil & Mariano): > > http://forum.world.st/Large-images-reasons-WAS-Re-Pharo-2-0-with-Seaside-DB… > > >

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Paul DeBruicker

On 09/04/2013 02:44 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I will like to know which vm version are you using. > > Esteban the one thats packaged with the one-clicks 3.9-7 #1 Wed Mar 13 18:22:44 CET 2013 gcc 4.4.3 NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 Linux linux-ubuntu-10 2.6.32-38-server #83-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 4 11:26:59 UTC 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux plugin path: /home/paul/pharo/pharo2.0/bin [default: /home/paul/pharo/pharo2.0/bin/]

Sept. 4, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 2 problems that prevent me from using it in production was Re: RFB on 2.0 + linux - semaphore primitive failed

by Paul DeBruicker

On 09/04/2013 12:54 AM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > I'm not sure what we are seeing in pharo3 is the same problem reported in pharo2. > Of course if it is, we will backport. > But "inflation" problem in ph3 is very consistent and repeatable, the problem reported in ph2... well, I never seen it before, and we have just one report (and I assume that we have more than one hundred production projects with that version). > So is likely something different (also some of the detected leaks are due to changes in ph3, not present in the older version). > > Esteban heres two more reports about image size in another thread (Phil & Mariano): http://forum.world.st/Large-images-reasons-WAS-Re-Pharo-2-0-with-Seaside-DB…

Sept. 4, 2013