September 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Paul DeBruicker

On 09/16/2013 07:32 AM, Damien Cassou wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:26 PM, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de > <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: >> from this perspective; is there a difference in revenues between printed and >> pdf? > > > normally this is shown when you click on either the "Get PDF" or "Get > printed" buttons on the website. > > For the PDF: you pay 6 â¬, Pharo association gets 4.73â¬ > For the printed edition: you pay 25 â¬, Pharo association gets 11.44â¬ > Disclaimer: bikeshedding 1. I think you're not charging enough, see: http://blog.asmartbear.com/selling-ebook.html. Why not PDF version for 29, physical copy for 35, both for 39, both plus t-shirt for 49? Have a fat student discount for the PDF. You're selling to a small population of either professionals who make $ from the info you provide or students. 2. Why give lulu 20% to control access to a zero marginal cost download that you have to do all the promotion for? At this point are you contractually obligated or is there some flexibility? Can that be switched over right now to just email you when someone orders the PDF and you manually email them the PDF until you get a system in place to automatically respond to their orders? Its my understanding that you're coming out with more books in the future. It would seem to help all of us if you can maximize the revenue from that effort as we are a small but committed group.

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by jannik laval

Thank you for the report. I fixed it. Jannik 2013/9/16 Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> > Yeap, it is english. I was about to report the same thing. > > > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > 2013/9/16 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi, >> >> I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in >> French language. >> It is in English, isn't it? >> >> Thank you for the great job! >> >> Cheers, >> Jura >> >> >> El 16-09-2013, a las 11:24, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> >> escribiÃ³: >> >> Hi, >> >> please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book >> >> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ >> >> Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> >> >> > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Yeap, it is english. I was about to report the same thing. Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/9/16 Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in > French language. > It is in English, isn't it? > > Thank you for the great job! > > Cheers, > Jura > > > El 16-09-2013, a las 11:24, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > escribiÃ³: > > Hi, > > please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > > Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > > >

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Juraj Kubelka

Hi, I suppose it is en error, but PDF version on lulu page says it is in French language. It is in English, isn't it? Thank you for the great job! Cheers, Jura El 16-09-2013, a las 11:24, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > Hi, > > please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > > Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2013/9/16 Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo > <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) > > if you have a solution to generate Kindle/ibook from latex, then we > can try. Otherwise, please download the PDF and tell us how is looks > on mobile platforms. The PDF on any mobile platform is rendered horribly, because PDF is "print oriented", so no automatic text-flow on font-size increase, etc. I rather use HTML than PDF on mobile/kindle. It looks bad even on a 7" tablet. I have this bookmarked since a lot of time. The file it generates is even better than some books purchased at Amazon itself. https://github.com/danchoi/kindlefodder#writing-your-own-ebook-recipes I haven't had time/will to spend on it. Maybe if you can convert latex to HTML, we can do something. Regards! ps: Meanwhile I'll contribute through Lulu's PDF purchase ;-)

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 16 Sep 2013, at 16:24, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > > Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. Done. Great work, Damien, StÃ©phane, Alexandre & Jannik. Your effort is much appreciated. Sven > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Yuriy Tymchuk

http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/ can convert latex to epub. epub is actually a wrapper around html, so if it's written in pier it can be even easier. uko On 16 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 17:48, jannik laval <jannik.laval(a)gmail.com> wrote: > no iBooks for now. It needs another document format, and I don't know how much work it needs. > > If someone wants to contribute :)... > > Jannik > > > 2013/9/16 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> > How about iBooks :) > > uko > > On 16 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 17:38, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > > > > 2013/9/16 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > >> What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > >>> > >>> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > >>> > >>> Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Damien Cassou > >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >>> > >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > >>> losing enthusiasm." > >>> Winston Churchill > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > ~~Jannik Laval~~ > Ãcole des Mines de Douai > Enseignant-chercheur > http://www.jannik-laval.eu >

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by jannik laval

no iBooks for now. It needs another document format, and I don't know how much work it needs. If someone wants to contribute :)... Jannik 2013/9/16 Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> > How about iBooks :) > > uko > > On 16 Ð²ÐµÑ. 2013, at 17:38, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) > > Esteban A. Maringolo > > > > > > 2013/9/16 Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com>: > >> What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> please support our work on Pharo by buying the new Deep into Pharo book > >>> > >>> http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/deepIntoPharo/ > >>> > >>> Your money go to the Pharo Association, so it's worth it. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Damien Cassou > >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > >>> > >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > >>> losing enthusiasm." > >>> Winston Churchill > >>> > >> > > > > > -- ~~Jannik Laval~~ Ãcole des Mines de Douai Enseignant-chercheur http://www.jannik-laval.eu

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Guillermo Polito <guillermopolito(a)gmail.com> wrote: > What about a tweet from the pharo tweeter so we can retweet? ;) I tweeted from my account and ESUG's one. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Sept. 16, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Please help us by buying the book

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I would pay an intermediate price to get a Kindle edition :) if you have a solution to generate Kindle/ibook from latex, then we can try. Otherwise, please download the PDF and tell us how is looks on mobile platforms. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Sept. 16, 2013