July 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

documentation for refactoring tools in Pharo 2

by Paul DeBruicker

Is there any documentation on the changes between 1.4 and 2 for the refactoring tools? Or how to use them effectively to refactor code? I'm familiar with Lukas Renggli's writing on them and used them regularly in 1.4. I'm just trying to use the RBParseTreeRewriter from within a workspace but with it limited to a package or class heirarchy. Thanks Paul

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Le 03/07/2013 09:59, Tudor Girba a Ã©crit : >> We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making >> explicit what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of >> various things, but we do not yet have a concerted message. This >> message, and I will aim at one single message, has to transpire in >> everything we do: from the way we design the code, to the concepts we >> adopt in the language, to the frameworks we build on top, and to the >> developer and user experience. > > About message: > > "Pharo Smalltalk, design from you mind." Nice > > The idea is to express Pharo set a very thin barrier between what lies > in your mind and how your transpose it in a computerized form. I like the vision of this tweet Pharo the live environment Smalltalk is the closest you can get to feel like a god making clay models that come alive #noreturn @pharoproject And I really think that "Pharo is a really exciting not only for the techno but because of the high qualities of the members of its community Access to brilliant guys is key for success" > Hilaire > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > >

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [phaor-user list options] where?

by Marcus Denker

http://lists.pharo.org/mailman/listinfo/pharo-users_lists.pharo.org On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Baveco, Hans <hans.baveco(a)wur.nl> wrote: > Sorry to bother the list with this, but where can I change the delivery > options for this list, e.g set to digest mode, etc?**** > > ** ** > > TIA Hans**** > -- -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

July 3, 2013

[phaor-user list options] where?

by Baveco, Hans

Sorry to bother the list with this, but where can I change the delivery options for this list, e.g set to digest mode, etc? TIA Hans

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Ahh sorry, the Jenkins link is already there. I spoke too fast. Thanks! On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck <marianopeck(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Exactly. Better would be to have a Readme with the link to the >> job-generated PDF. >> >> > Ok, better. Where is the job? > > >> The problem with having the generated PDF in the repository is that you >> will have conflicts as soon as two people work concurrently on the text. >> >> > yes, I know :) > > >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> > >>> > While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf. >>> > Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps >>> thereâ¦. >>> >>> no jenkins latex for us :) >>> >>> > If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should >>> download from...please let the PDF there. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >> > > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuel chapter using Gutemberg

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 5:03 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Exactly. Better would be to have a Readme with the link to the > job-generated PDF. > > Ok, better. Where is the job? > The problem with having the generated PDF in the repository is that you > will have conflicts as soon as two people work concurrently on the text. > > yes, I know :) > Cheers, > Doru > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> > >> > While I do agree with most of the temp files, I would let .pdf. >> > Say someone wants to read the chapter...I have to follow all the steps >> thereâ¦. >> >> no jenkins latex for us :) >> >> > If this is the place where at least temporary, final users should >> download from...please let the PDF there. >> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Another 32-bit on a 64 bit machine question.

by Mariano Martinez Peck

Yes, there was an old SerialPlugin bug which I think it was reported by Friedrich Dominicus himself...but I am not sure if it was integrated. I can find the issue if you want.. (but I think it was not related to 32/64) Cheers, On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > SerialPort new openPort:, then > > again... nothing to do with 64bits :) > > but... but... the SerialPlugin could have some problems :) > > (I don't know if it was working on all platforms) > > Esteban > > > On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > > > > On 03 Jul 2013, at 12:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> SocketStream on: 8080. > > > > He wants a Serial Port Connection, not a TCP Socket Stream ;-) > > > >> should work, AFAIK the 64bits thingy does not have anything to do... > >> It is something failing? > >> > >> cheers, > >> Esteban > >> > >> > >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Friedrich Dominicus < > frido(a)q-software-solutions.de> wrote: > >> > >>> Well how can one open a serial port on a Linux 64-bit box with > >>> a Pharo 32 bit? > >>> > >>> Any things would be very welcome > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> Friedrich > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by Tudor Girba

Thanks. Nice ideas. But, when I mentioned a message, I was not talking only about the tag line. I implied also the story that goes with it. If you have one that exemplifies the tag line, please feel free. Cheers, Doru On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 1:32 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > An accelerator for manifesting innovation is how I see it. > > Phil > > > On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 3 July 2013 09:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Thanks for the wishes. > >> > >> Just a note: I do not see getting in the board as a prize, but as a > work to > >> do. And there is some work left :) > >> > > Indeed. > > That's why i abstain from things like that. I have enough things to do :) > > > >> One of the points that I will stress everyone with is the marketing of > >> Pharo. Marketing, like any other meaningful thing, requires design. > Design > >> requires feedback. And feedback requires time. That is why we have to > start > >> with this endeavor sooner rather than later. > >> > >> The other thing about marketing is that it can actually be meaningful, > but > >> this happens only when we live what we sell. Pharo does offer a > fantastic > >> opportunity because when people talk about it, their eyes blink. This > >> reveals both value and values that are packaged deep in Pharo. > >> > >> We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making > explicit > >> what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of various > things, but > >> we do not yet have a concerted message. This message, and I will aim at > one > >> single message, has to transpire in everything we do: from the way we > design > >> the code, to the concepts we adopt in the language, to the frameworks we > >> build on top, and to the developer and user experience. > >> > >> This is exciting, but it requires team effort. This is where you come > in. We > >> want your energy outside of pure coding. More concrete proposals will > come > >> in the near future, but until then, feel free to chip in your ideas. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Doru > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck > >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> > >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel < > alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Cool! > >>>> > >>>> Alexandre > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > Hi, > >>>> > > >>>> > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently > >>>> > joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on > long term > >>>> > issues like the positioning of Pharo. > >>>> > > >>>> > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven > >>>> > > >>>> > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board > >>>> > > >>>> > -- > >>>> > http://pharo.org > >>>> > http://association.pharo.org > >>>> > http://consortium.pharo.org > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Mariano > >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> www.tudorgirba.com > >> > >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko. > > > > > > > > -- > --- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium > > Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast > http://spamcast.libsyn.com > Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value > Added Reseller > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Tudor Girba joins Pharo Board

by phil＠highoctane.be

An accelerator for manifesting innovation is how I see it. Phil On Wednesday, July 3, 2013, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3 July 2013 09:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> Thanks for the wishes. >> >> Just a note: I do not see getting in the board as a prize, but as a work to >> do. And there is some work left :) >> > Indeed. > That's why i abstain from things like that. I have enough things to do :) > >> One of the points that I will stress everyone with is the marketing of >> Pharo. Marketing, like any other meaningful thing, requires design. Design >> requires feedback. And feedback requires time. That is why we have to start >> with this endeavor sooner rather than later. >> >> The other thing about marketing is that it can actually be meaningful, but >> this happens only when we live what we sell. Pharo does offer a fantastic >> opportunity because when people talk about it, their eyes blink. This >> reveals both value and values that are packaged deep in Pharo. >> >> We just have to capitalize on that, and I want to start by making explicit >> what makes Pharo unique and valuable. Everyone thinks of various things, but >> we do not yet have a concerted message. This message, and I will aim at one >> single message, has to transpire in everything we do: from the way we design >> the code, to the concepts we adopt in the language, to the frameworks we >> build on top, and to the developer and user experience. >> >> This is exciting, but it requires team effort. This is where you come in. We >> want your energy outside of pure coding. More concrete proposals will come >> in the near future, but until then, feel free to chip in your ideas. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:16 AM, Mariano Martinez Peck >> <marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Congrats! Doru, It's well deserved. >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM, Alexandre Bergel < alexandre.bergel(a)me.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Cool! >>>> >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:12 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > The Pharo Board is pleased to announce that Tudor Girba has recently >>>> > joined the Pharo Board. Among others, he will try to contribute on long term >>>> > issues like the positioning of Pharo. >>>> > >>>> > StÃ©phane, Marcus & Sven >>>> > >>>> > http://www.pharo-project.org/about/board >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > http://pharo.org >>>> > http://association.pharo.org >>>> > http://consortium.pharo.org >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mariano >>> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com >> >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > > -- --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller

July 3, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Another 32-bit on a 64 bit machine question.

by Esteban Lorenzano

SerialPort new openPort:, then again... nothing to do with 64bits :) but... but... the SerialPlugin could have some problems :) (I don't know if it was working on all platforms) Esteban On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:07 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > > On 03 Jul 2013, at 12:52, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> SocketStream on: 8080. > > He wants a Serial Port Connection, not a TCP Socket Stream ;-) > >> should work, AFAIK the 64bits thingy does not have anything to do... >> It is something failing? >> >> cheers, >> Esteban >> >> >> On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Friedrich Dominicus <frido(a)q-software-solutions.de> wrote: >> >>> Well how can one open a serial port on a Linux 64-bit box with >>> a Pharo 32 bit? >>> >>> Any things would be very welcome >>> >>> Regards >>> Friedrich >>> >> >> > >

July 3, 2013