July 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] PPA for Ubuntu X11

by Norbert Hartl

Am 15.07.2013 um 17:44 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > Hi, > > Does the PPA only takes care of the > headless dependencies? I expected > pharo-vm-desktop to also load an X > display driver (12.04.2 server) > Basically I would agree. But it isn't as easy at this. If you say "an X display driver" which one do you mean? There is a big difference if load Xvnc server or a full X11 server environment. So that would need alternative packages so pharo-vm-desktop can depend on the umbrella alternative package. But I don't know if there is one. Would need some research first. Norbert

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] PPA for Ubuntu X11

by Damien Cassou

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Does the PPA only takes care of the > headless dependencies? I expected > pharo-vm-desktop to also load an X > display driver (12.04.2 server) The pharo-vm-desktop package should give you a pharo-vm-x executable that should be able to launch an image in a window. Can you please give me more details about your problem? I'm on the #pharo IRC channel. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Igor Stasenko

since you gave listing at the end of page, i wonder, how much PHP (yes! :) code it would take to implement same app? :) of course , PHP is not really fair comparison, since it doesn't implements full HTTP stack, nor it deals with HTTP requests directly as Zinc does, and runs on top of web server which does that for it. On 15 July 2013 13:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". > > By chronologically following the development process, you will see a small web app growing from something trivial to the final result. Finally, we will save our source code in a repository and deploy for real in the cloud. > > http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp > > Pharo 2.0/3.0 features such as Nautilus, SmalltalkHub, Metacello Configurations, Zeroconf Scripts and of course Zinc HTTP Components are used while highlighting traditional strengths such as incremental, live & interactive development in a rich environment. > > Enjoy, > > Sven > > PS: Feedback is welcome, the source document lives here https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/blob/master/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/buil… - pull requests appreciated. > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > Proudly supporting Pharo > http://pharo.org > http://association.pharo.org > http://consortium.pharo.org > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

July 15, 2013

PPA for Ubuntu X11

by Stephan Eggermont

Hi, Does the PPA only takes care of the headless dependencies? I expected pharo-vm-desktop to also load an X display driver (12.04.2 server) Stephan

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] New win32 VM available (was: More than 500MB for windows)

by Igor Stasenko

On 15 July 2013 16:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Aha :). > > Ok. I tested PharoS with 1GB and I got a 800MB image running well. > > Is there really no chance of getting Cog with this feature? :) > please ,read more carefully.. :) it was error in config, which copied PharoS files over Pharo ones. And answering your question: you should have the same feature in both VMs since they sharing same C codebase. > Doru > > > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 15 July 2013 15:34, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> >> > wrote: >> >> Ok, I admit. I should read emails thoroughly :). Please ignore the >> >> second >> >> issue. Still, why is it called PharoS? >> > >> > >> > may it be because this is a StackVM and not Cog? >> >> yeah, it looks like Esteban by making configs for PharoS VM >> made a mistake and these VMs uploaded into same location as Cog ones.. >> (we fixed it already, building new VM, which will copy stuff properly) >> >> alternatively , you can download VM from build server: >> >> >> https://ci.inria.fr/pharo/view/VM/job/PharoVM/182/Architecture=32,Slave=vm-… >> >> (to make sure we're talking about same VM) >> >> > >> > -- >> > Damien Cassou >> > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> > >> > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> > losing enthusiasm." >> > Winston Churchill >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Hi Sven, yes, guides is nice, and I'll try to make something with Zinc + Amber. But my main idea is to create something like a Stack of technologies that is easy to use. Like Rails. Uko On 15 Ð»Ð¸Ð¿. 2013, at 18:18, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi Yuriy, > > On 15 Jul 2013, at 13:25, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sven, >> >> thank you a LOT. To be honest I was thinking about improving Pharo's glory around the web and a decent tutorial was the first step. I'll go through it today-tomorow and may have more feedback, but for now maybe we can cooperate on the idea of making a development with Pharo popular. > > It would be very cool if you would also write some tutorial or blog post. There can never be enough, and fresh, alternative views are important as well. > > I think the whole idea of Pharo is to make it better and more popular, together. > > Sven > >> Cheers, >> Uko >> >> >> On 15 Ð»Ð¸Ð¿. 2013, at 14:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". >>> >>> By chronologically following the development process, you will see a small web app growing from something trivial to the final result. Finally, we will save our source code in a repository and deploy for real in the cloud. >>> >>> http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp >>> >>> Pharo 2.0/3.0 features such as Nautilus, SmalltalkHub, Metacello Configurations, Zeroconf Scripts and of course Zinc HTTP Components are used while highlighting traditional strengths such as incremental, live & interactive development in a rich environment. >>> >>> Enjoy, >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> PS: Feedback is welcome, the source document lives here https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/blob/master/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/buil… - pull requests appreciated. >>> >>> -- >>> Sven Van Caekenberghe >>> Proudly supporting Pharo >>> http://pharo.org >>> http://association.pharo.org >>> http://consortium.pharo.org >>> >>> >> >> > >

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin

by Friedrich Dominicus

Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> writes: > Hi list, > > Any chance to get SerialPlugin working in Pharo 2.0 under Debian? > > I tried to follow the instructions > inÂ http://car.mines-douai.fr/2013/01/serialplugin-in-the-pharo-vm/Â but > I didn't succeed. The second step already failed giving me the > folowing error: > > > Error: Could not find accessor for variable named > "bytesToAllocate" in > NBUnixExternalHeapManager>>#mmapLength:prot:flags:into: I have it running here. See my other posts with my problems. Have you installed really all the 32-bit libraries? what't the output of ldd on the pharo executable? Is there something missing? Regards Friedrich

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Yuriy, On 15 Jul 2013, at 13:25, Yuriy Tymchuk <yuriy.tymchuk(a)me.com> wrote: > Hi Sven, > > thank you a LOT. To be honest I was thinking about improving Pharo's glory around the web and a decent tutorial was the first step. I'll go through it today-tomorow and may have more feedback, but for now maybe we can cooperate on the idea of making a development with Pharo popular. It would be very cool if you would also write some tutorial or blog post. There can never be enough, and fresh, alternative views are important as well. I think the whole idea of Pharo is to make it better and more popular, together. Sven > Cheers, > Uko > > > On 15 Ð»Ð¸Ð¿. 2013, at 14:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". >> >> By chronologically following the development process, you will see a small web app growing from something trivial to the final result. Finally, we will save our source code in a repository and deploy for real in the cloud. >> >> http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp >> >> Pharo 2.0/3.0 features such as Nautilus, SmalltalkHub, Metacello Configurations, Zeroconf Scripts and of course Zinc HTTP Components are used while highlighting traditional strengths such as incremental, live & interactive development in a rich environment. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Sven >> >> PS: Feedback is welcome, the source document lives here https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/blob/master/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/buil… - pull requests appreciated. >> >> -- >> Sven Van Caekenberghe >> Proudly supporting Pharo >> http://pharo.org >> http://association.pharo.org >> http://consortium.pharo.org >> >> > >

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [DOC] Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 15 Jul 2013, at 13:15, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > very nice! Thanks, someone already put it on http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/1ic883/building_and_deploying_… but needs comments/votes ;-) > On 2013-07-15, at 13:12, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I wrote a new tutorial, "Building and deploying your first web app with Pharo - Understanding HTTP fundamentals through Zinc HTTP Components". >> >> By chronologically following the development process, you will see a small web app growing from something trivial to the final result. Finally, we will save our source code in a repository and deploy for real in the cloud. >> >> http://zn.stfx.eu/zn/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp >> >> Pharo 2.0/3.0 features such as Nautilus, SmalltalkHub, Metacello Configurations, Zeroconf Scripts and of course Zinc HTTP Components are used while highlighting traditional strengths such as incremental, live & interactive development in a rich environment. >> >> Enjoy, >> >> Sven >> >> PS: Feedback is welcome, the source document lives here https://github.com/svenvc/zinc/blob/master/build-and-deploy-1st-webapp/buil… - pull requests appreciated. >> >> -- >> Sven Van Caekenberghe >> Proudly supporting Pharo >> http://pharo.org >> http://association.pharo.org >> http://consortium.pharo.org >> >> > >

July 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] New win32 VM available (was: More than 500MB for windows)

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-07-15, at 17:00, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Aha :). > > Ok. I tested PharoS with 1GB and I got a 800MB image running well. > > Is there really no chance of getting Cog with this feature? :) should be the same setting for both Pharo and PharoS (note there is no more Cog, NBCog and StackVM ;). There was a tiny bug in the configuration, so Windows will decide to finish the build we should have Pharo VM with the same properties.

July 15, 2013