June 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Goubier Thierry

I'll check with some older hardware; I have something slower than yours, but I'll have the results later tonight. Thierry Le 07/06/2013 17:04, Paul DeBruicker a Ã©crit : > Sounds like I need some new hardware then? > > > > > On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote: >> >> >> Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >>> >>> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >>>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >>>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? >>> >>> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> 258 >>> "milliseconds" >> >> 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz >> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292, 330] ms >> >> Thierry > > > > -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 7, 2013, at 5:04 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > My laptop is: > > [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 1518 > > (3.0): [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 117 I have a slow machine: 1.8Ghz Core i5 in a MacBook Air. It auto-overclocks to 2.8 Ghz when not using two cores. It's supposed to be not a fast system, as far as I understood. Marcus

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Paul DeBruicker

Sounds like I need some new hardware then? On 06/07/2013 07:16 AM, Goubier Thierry wrote: > > > Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : >> >> On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? >> >> [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> 258 >> "milliseconds" > > 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz > [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292, 330] ms > > Thierry

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Paul DeBruicker

My laptop is: [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun 1518 On 06/07/2013 07:07 AM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > > On 2013-06-07, at 16:03, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >>> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >>> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? > > On my virtualbox ubuntu 13.04 > > [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun == 1052 > > :/ >

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Raspberry Pi

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Tony, On 07 Jun 2013, at 16:52, Tony Giaccone <tgiaccone(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I recently got a Raspberry Pi and was pleasantly surprised to see that smalltalk is part of the image. I quickly did a search to see if Pharo was available. While there was a flurry of messages about getting a version that would work on the. Pi. I haven't seem anything saying it had happened. > > Is it possible to run Pharo on my RaspPi? Short answer: yes you can but only older versions (I think 1.4) since newer version (2.0 and up) depend on extra primitives in the VM (for FileSystem, Data/Time stuff). The VM on the RPi is quite old and there is not specific Pharo VM (yet). Sven

June 7, 2013

Pharo on Raspberry Pi

by Tony Giaccone

I recently got a Raspberry Pi and was pleasantly surprised to see that smalltalk is part of the image. I quickly did a search to see if Pharo was available. While there was a flurry of messages about getting a version that would work on the. Pi. I haven't seem anything saying it had happened. Is it possible to run Pharo on my RaspPi?

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Goubier Thierry

Le 07/06/2013 16:00, Sven Van Caekenberghe a Ã©crit : > > On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? > > [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> 258 "milliseconds" 20606, Ubuntu 13.04 64bits, Core i3-2350M CPU @ 2.30GHz [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> [292, 330] ms Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des SystÃ¨mes Temps RÃ©el EmbarquÃ©s 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-06-07, at 16:03, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran >> the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 >> seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? On my virtualbox ubuntu 13.04 [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun == 1052 :/

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 7, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran > the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 > seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? > [SystemNavigation new browseMessageList: (SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue:) name: 'Senders or Users of ', #ifTrue: autoSelect: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun ->> 743 0.7 seconds. out of that, [SystemNavigation new allCallsOn: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun takes ca. 0.11 seconds.

June 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ui slowness on newly installed ubuntu 13.04 64bit

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 07 Jun 2013, at 15:44, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For the attached profile I downloaded a new pharo 20606 image and ran > the search for senders of #ifTrue: twice. It shows that it took 17 > seconds on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. How long does it take on your machine? [ SystemNavigation new allSendersOf: #ifTrue: ] timeToRun =>> 258 "milliseconds" I feel for you, Paul, this is really annoying... > On 06/06/2013 11:27 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >> On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:12 PM, Paul DeBruicker <pdebruic(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Damien, >>> >>> >>> Because of the attached Message Tally outputs I don't think the problem >>> is specific to changes I've made to an image. I also don't think that >>> there is much differnece between Eliots vm or the pharo ppa vm. The >>> Message Tally outputs are from profiling the UI while finding the >>> senders of #setUp using various VM & image combinations. On squeak >>> finding the senders of #setUp seems instantaneous. On Pharo it takes >>> multiple seconds to find and display the senders. >>> >> >> This is really strangeâ¦ here even doing "senders of" for all the >6000 senders >> of ifTrue: is quite fast for 2.0 and even faster in 3.0. >> >> So I really wonder what the problem is... >> >> Marcus >> > > <pharo-vm-pharo-20606-ifTrue-twice.txt>

June 7, 2013