June 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - logo and message

by Jeff Gray

>From the home page: The Live Programming Environment. Like Pharo, it has a clean look and feel :-) Or, maybe we should stick to something very plain to start with and get this thing going; then periodically review and update the selection. E.g. The new winter collection :-) What do you think - Perhaps just the logo and web address? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Mugs-n-stuff-logo-and-message-tp4692529p4692699.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] baseline for seaside 3.0

by Sean P. DeNigris

Sabine KnÃ¶fel wrote > If I create a baseline like this (see below), I get the error > "Message not understood: receiver of "loadUsing" isNil" I don't see an obvious problem... Will you attach more of the call chain from the error or check out ConfigurationOfSeasideRest in http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository which loads seaside 30 ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/baseline-for-seaside-3-0-tp4692630p4692696.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 11, 2013

Grabbing email attachments

by Davide Varvello

Hi guys, Is there a way to grab and save an attachment using Pharo? TIA Davide -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Grabbing-email-attachments-tp4692693.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 10, 2013

Steve Jobs-The Lost Interview-2012

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Hi all, Hope you like it. -- Bernardo E.C. Sent from a cheap desktop computer in South America.

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Am 10.06.13 18:01, schrieb Marcus Denker: > >> Breaks the Principal of Least Surprise for those you want to attract >> from other dialects. They may end up with a strong opinion on it :) > > > I am not against reverting the inspect change.. but it should be > documented well, else this will be changed again in the future. > > Another thing is that starting from 3.0, I am sure that nobody will > ever put "inspect" or "halt" anywhere as they will use meta-links > insteadâ¦ hmm. that is probably just 5 minutes away from Pharo's world domination ;-) As long as Pharo is "Smalltalk inspired", people will probably come up with solutions they learned in Smalltalk. I have not yet come to be a frequent Pharo user, but coming from another Smalltalk dialect, I would probably face the same problem as Sabine mentioned it. I am not sure I use inspect in message cascades very often, because I tend to avoid cascades in methods that look or feel as if I may want to inspect preliminary results, so I am probably unlikely to tap into the same trap often. But if I would, I'd be scratching my head and ask myself what the heck this could ever be good for... But I also agree with what you are saying: if newly introduced behavior is changed again, it should be for a good reason and documented well. Otherwise people may get the impression Pharo is immature and instable. And that would be no good - neither for Smalltalk-switchers nor for newborn Smalltalkers. Joachim

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <sabine.knoefel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > thank you. I can not see the entry because I have no access. > Is it possible to grant access for me so that I can, next time, look > if there is already a bug entry instead of starting a discussion in > the Forum? > I added an account on the tracker for you. Marcus

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] inspect returns iOf SystemWindow and not receiver

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:07 PM, btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: > Sabine KnÃ¶fel wrote: >> >> Hi Igor, >> >> ok. Everyone has other programming habits.... >> >> Greetings >> Sabine >> >> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Igor Stasenko [via Smalltalk] >> <ml-node+s1294792n4692589h54(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: >> >>> On 10 June 2013 10:52, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Igor, >>>> >>>> thanks! >>>> >>>> Don't you agree with me that in this point, Pharo should have the same >>>> behaviour as the other smalltalk dialects (VisualAge/IBM Smalltalk, >>>> VisualWorks, Gemstone)? >>>> >>>> >>> i don't have strong opinion on that. >>> for me, this is not a big deal. >>> >>> > > Breaks the Principal of Least Surprise for those you want to attract from other dialects. They may end up with a strong opinion on it :) I am not against reverting the inspect change.. but it should be documented well, else this will be changed again in the future. Another thing is that starting from 3.0, I am sure that nobody will ever put "inspect" or "halt" anywhere as they will use meta-links insteadâ¦ Marcus

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - logo and message

by Nick Papoylias

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Nick Papoylias <npapoylias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > (correct ! I repharase) > > > > Pharo: Self-emerging, self replicating and (optionally) immortal: till > world domination ! > > > > > ;-) > > One of the things I learned in the past that one should not overdo these > things. > ;) It's the caffeine talking... you are probably right. This is what happens when you are talking about mugs. > > Marcus > > >

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - logo and message

by Marcus Denker

On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:42 PM, Nick Papoylias <npapoylias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > (correct ! I repharase) > > Pharo: Self-emerging, self replicating and (optionally) immortal: till world domination ! > > ;-) One of the things I learned in the past that one should not overdo these things. Marcus

June 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Mugs 'n' stuff - logo and message

by Markus Fritsche

On 10.06.2013 17:29, Marcus Denker wrote: > > The problem is that Pharo (I guess Pharo 4) will bootstrap from scratchâ¦. > > ;-) > I thought scratch wasn't smalltalk anymore? <scnr> Personally, I'd have the pretty nice logo and something not as geeky. "Pharo. Neat logo, neat language." or the like. Maybe some of the blocks discussed on the other side. Kind regards, Markus

June 10, 2013