May 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] history graph widget

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

For the grid part the SGrid supports embedding morphs, check the examples http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4674116/are-there-any-open-source-spread… cheers, HernÃ¡n El 19/05/2013 13:24, Martin Dias escribiÃ³: > Hi > > I would like to have a Morphic widget like this. Does anyone know if > there is something already done that I could reuse? > > Inline image 1 > > Maybe do it with Roassal in this way: > > Use the list morph, where each row knows an image morph with its > corresponding slice of the graph. > > Each time the graph changes (for example, if a node is appended), render > using Roassal the part of the graph has to be updated, and cut the > rendered surface in the new slices for each updated row. > > Any opinion? > > Maybe I should think more in vectors (i.e. Athens) instead of pixels/images? > > Cheers, > Martin

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] history graph widget

by Martin Dias

ah, yes, it's great! thanks On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:38 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote: > in the image > > timeprofiler > > On May 20, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > No, I think. Where can I find it? > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM, stephane ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > >> did you check whtat alain did for the profiler? >> >> >> On May 19, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I would like to have a Morphic widget like this. Does anyone know if >> there is something already done that I could reuse? >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >> Maybe do it with Roassal in this way: >> >> Use the list morph, where each row knows an image morph with its >> corresponding slice of the graph. >> >> Each time the graph changes (for example, if a node is appended), >> render using Roassal the part of the graph has to be updated, and cut the >> rendered surface in the new slices for each updated row. >> >> Any opinion? >> >> Maybe I should think more in vectors (i.e. Athens) instead of >> pixels/images? >> >> Cheers, >> Martin >> >> >> > >

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] history graph widget

by stephane ducasse

in the image timeprofiler On May 20, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > No, I think. Where can I find it? > > > On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > did you check whtat alain did for the profiler? > > > On May 19, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> I would like to have a Morphic widget like this. Does anyone know if there is something already done that I could reuse? >> >> >> >> Maybe do it with Roassal in this way: >> >> Use the list morph, where each row knows an image morph with its corresponding slice of the graph. >> >> Each time the graph changes (for example, if a node is appended), render using Roassal the part of the graph has to be updated, and cut the rendered surface in the new slices for each updated row. >> >> Any opinion? >> >> Maybe I should think more in vectors (i.e. Athens) instead of pixels/images? >> >> Cheers, >> Martin > >

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkWorld chartFrameworks.

by Marcus Denker

On May 20, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I dropped the image on Pharo and I still have this illegal subtraction message. > > I don't build anything, I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 "one click" and added MathsOntologie, DrGeo and PetitParser. Plus the (almost) daily updates. There are no daily updates in 2.0. Marcus

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkWorld chartFrameworks.

by Alain Busser

I dropped the image on Pharo and I still have this illegal subtraction message. I don't build anything, I just downloaded Pharo 2.0 "one click" and added MathsOntologie, DrGeo and PetitParser. Plus the (almost) daily updates. The debugger says that GLMSystemWindow's "addMorph: fullFrame" method has a subtraction where WindowBorderWidth (which equals 4) is subtracted to bottom; and bottom is nil, so it don't understand the "-" message (I doubt a nil object understands anything). So I guess the question is "why is bottom nil?" I see that at the beginning there is bottom := frame bottomOffset. Whereas frame is a LayoutFrame ( (0@0) + (4@4)px corner: (1@1) + (-4@nil)px ) so I imagine the nil comes from this point, no? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Alain, > > As I said, something does not add up. > > What do you do exactly when you are building your image? > > Also, could you try following the instructions from the previous mail and > let me know if it still fails? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On May 19, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > in the "world" menu, "tools" then "petitparser"; > > > > the browser method is "openWith: aRender" which fails to render anything > in GLMMorphicRenderer... > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Something does not add up :). What menu are you talking about? > > > > Here is an image based on Pharo 2.0 that only contains PetitParser: > > > https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/petitparser/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/peti… > > > > If I run "PPBrowser open", it seems to work just fine. > > > > Here is how the image was created: > > wget --quiet -O - http://get.pharo.org/20+vmLatest | bash > > ./pharo Pharo.image save $JOB_NAME > > REPO=http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main > > ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfPetitParser > --install=development > > ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image test --junit-xml-output "Petit.*" > > mv ./pharo-vm/PharoV20.sources ./ > > zip -r $JOB_NAME.zip $JOB_NAME.image $JOB_NAME.changes PharoV20.sources > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Done, and when I clicked on the menu entry ... and ... guess what ... > Pharo crashed again ... > > > > > > The last error message was about a labelGraphic ( aMultistateButton); > in case it helps... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Please load the latest version of PetitParser in Pharo 2.0 from > SmalltalkHub: > > > > > > Gofer new > > > smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; > > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; > > > load. > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > loadDevelopment > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I used Monticello with the Moose address, and downloaded > petitsmalltalk and PetitParser, as well as configuration files. I made > > > > > > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > > perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > > > > > > > once again, and clicked on the petit entry in the tools menu ... and > Pharo crashed! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Alain Busser < > alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I made > > > > > > > > Gofer new > > > > renggli: 'petit'; > > > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; > > > > load. > > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > > perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > > > > > > > The tool is actually loaded but when I try to launch it from the > system menu I get a > > > > > > > > receiver of "-" is nil > > > > > > > > Same message if in the workspace I type PPBrowser new open, but not > if I try PPBrowser new inspect (there, I have an inspector open on the > PPBrowser) > > > > > > > > I'll switch to smalltalkhub now > > > > > > > > Alain > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM, stephane ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > > ****ALL*** the moose people are using PetitParser and it loads in 20. > > > > so where you took the code from? > > > > > > > > The official repositories are on SmalltalkHub/Moose > > > > > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > On May 16, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> I have a similar problem with PetitParser (loads well under Pharo > 1.4, not as well under Pharo 2.0) > > > >> > > > >> Alain > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Camille Teruel < > camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 16 mai 2013, at 17:59, stephane ducasse wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> yes normally the moose people. > > > >>> This is strange because eyesee is in Moose and we load it daily in > 2.0. > > > >> > > > >> Maybe the smalltalk hub repo is more up to date? > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> Stef > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thanks for your answer Camille! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I tried it. > > > >>>> It loads well on 1.4 but in 2.0 shows warining about a non > satisfied blockclosure class. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Then when I run the test there is a faliure with the > anouncements, which also accured when I tried the examples. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Is someone maintaining this? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks again, > > > >>>> Juan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Camille Teruel < > camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Hi Juan, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You can have a look to eyeSee: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Gofer it > > > >>>> squeaksource: 'EyeSee'; > > > >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfEyeSee'; > > > >>>> load. > > > >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfEyeSee) loadDefault > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 16 mai 2013, at 16:03, Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Hi all, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Does anybody know a chart framework? Im looking fo > something like jfreechart (java chart framework). > > > >>>>> I need bar graph, pie chart, and line chart. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> Juan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "Innovation comes in the least expected form. > > > That is, if it is expected, it already happened." > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > it probably isn't." > > >

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] history graph widget

by Martin Dias

No, I think. Where can I find it? On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr>wrote: > did you check whtat alain did for the profiler? > > > On May 19, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi > > I would like to have a Morphic widget like this. Does anyone know if there > is something already done that I could reuse? > > [image: Inline image 1] > > Maybe do it with Roassal in this way: > > Use the list morph, where each row knows an image morph with its > corresponding slice of the graph. > > Each time the graph changes (for example, if a node is appended), render > using Roassal the part of the graph has to be updated, and cut the rendered > surface in the new slices for each updated row. > > Any opinion? > > Maybe I should think more in vectors (i.e. Athens) instead of > pixels/images? > > Cheers, > Martin > > >

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] history graph widget

by stephane ducasse

did you check whtat alain did for the profiler? On May 19, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Martin Dias <tinchodias(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > I would like to have a Morphic widget like this. Does anyone know if there is something already done that I could reuse? > > > > Maybe do it with Roassal in this way: > > Use the list morph, where each row knows an image morph with its corresponding slice of the graph. > > Each time the graph changes (for example, if a node is appended), render using Roassal the part of the graph has to be updated, and cut the rendered surface in the new slices for each updated row. > > Any opinion? > > Maybe I should think more in vectors (i.e. Athens) instead of pixels/images? > > Cheers, > Martin

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SmalltalkWorld chartFrameworks.

by Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza

Doru, I loaded the moose stuf from smalltalk hub (following your instructions) and worked perferct thanks Regars, Juan On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Hi Alain, > > As I said, something does not add up. > > What do you do exactly when you are building your image? > > Also, could you try following the instructions from the previous mail and > let me know if it still fails? > > Cheers, > Doru > > > On May 19, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > in the "world" menu, "tools" then "petitparser"; > > > > the browser method is "openWith: aRender" which fails to render anything > in GLMMorphicRenderer... > > > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:02 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Something does not add up :). What menu are you talking about? > > > > Here is an image based on Pharo 2.0 that only contains PetitParser: > > > https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/petitparser/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/peti… > > > > If I run "PPBrowser open", it seems to work just fine. > > > > Here is how the image was created: > > wget --quiet -O - http://get.pharo.org/20+vmLatest | bash > > ./pharo Pharo.image save $JOB_NAME > > REPO=http://www.smalltalkhub.com/mc/Moose/PetitParser/main > > ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image config $REPO ConfigurationOfPetitParser > --install=development > > ./pharo $JOB_NAME.image test --junit-xml-output "Petit.*" > > mv ./pharo-vm/PharoV20.sources ./ > > zip -r $JOB_NAME.zip $JOB_NAME.image $JOB_NAME.changes PharoV20.sources > > > > Cheers, > > Doru > > > > > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > Done, and when I clicked on the menu entry ... and ... guess what ... > Pharo crashed again ... > > > > > > The last error message was about a labelGraphic ( aMultistateButton); > in case it helps... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Please load the latest version of PetitParser in Pharo 2.0 from > SmalltalkHub: > > > > > > Gofer new > > > smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; > > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; > > > load. > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > loadDevelopment > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Doru > > > > > > > > > On May 17, 2013, at 7:23 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > OK, I used Monticello with the Moose address, and downloaded > petitsmalltalk and PetitParser, as well as configuration files. I made > > > > > > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > > perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > > > > > > > once again, and clicked on the petit entry in the tools menu ... and > Pharo crashed! > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Alain Busser < > alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > I made > > > > > > > > Gofer new > > > > renggli: 'petit'; > > > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; > > > > load. > > > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) > > > > perform: #loadDefault. > > > > > > > > > > > > The tool is actually loaded but when I try to launch it from the > system menu I get a > > > > > > > > receiver of "-" is nil > > > > > > > > Same message if in the workspace I type PPBrowser new open, but not > if I try PPBrowser new inspect (there, I have an inspector open on the > PPBrowser) > > > > > > > > I'll switch to smalltalkhub now > > > > > > > > Alain > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM, stephane ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > > > ****ALL*** the moose people are using PetitParser and it loads in 20. > > > > so where you took the code from? > > > > > > > > The official repositories are on SmalltalkHub/Moose > > > > > > > > Stef > > > > > > > > On May 16, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> I have a similar problem with PetitParser (loads well under Pharo > 1.4, not as well under Pharo 2.0) > > > >> > > > >> Alain > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Camille Teruel < > camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> On 16 mai 2013, at 17:59, stephane ducasse wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> yes normally the moose people. > > > >>> This is strange because eyesee is in Moose and we load it daily in > 2.0. > > > >> > > > >> Maybe the smalltalk hub repo is more up to date? > > > >> > > > >>> > > > >>> Stef > > > >>> > > > >>>> Thanks for your answer Camille! > > > >>>> > > > >>>> I tried it. > > > >>>> It loads well on 1.4 but in 2.0 shows warining about a non > satisfied blockclosure class. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Then when I run the test there is a faliure with the > anouncements, which also accured when I tried the examples. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Is someone maintaining this? > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Thanks again, > > > >>>> Juan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Camille Teruel < > camille.teruel(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>>> Hi Juan, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> You can have a look to eyeSee: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Gofer it > > > >>>> squeaksource: 'EyeSee'; > > > >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfEyeSee'; > > > >>>> load. > > > >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfEyeSee) loadDefault > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On 16 mai 2013, at 16:03, Juan Ignacio Vaccarezza wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> Hi all, > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Does anybody know a chart framework? Im looking fo > something like jfreechart (java chart framework). > > > >>>>> I need bar graph, pie chart, and line chart. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> Thanks, > > > >>>>> Juan > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > > > "Innovation comes in the least expected form. > > > That is, if it is expected, it already happened." > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.tudorgirba.com > > > > "To lead is not to demand things, it is to make them happen." > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "If you can't say why something is relevant, > it probably isn't." > > >

May 20, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: widget to show progress

by Igor Stasenko

On 19 May 2013 22:09, Denis Kudriashov <dionisiydk(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi > > 2013/5/19 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> >> Here is a simple "widget" for you: >> >> Cursor wait showWhile: [ >> ... do something which may end, but you cannot predict when... >> ] > > > There is nice post about why it is bad > http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/travis/blogView?showComments=true&… > Completely agree with that. Even without reading that post i can say why: - you changing the global state, and if your UI system complex enough (and it tends to grow more and more complex in time), eventually you may end up with having two pieces of functionality, both trying to set cursor (unique global resource) to something they prefer right now, without being aware that other party also wants to change it.. The result of it, you can see in many today's desktop applications (not pharo) - cursor flickering changing from one shape into another, while application processing something .. which is very annoying. However pharo image right now having like 90 senders of this message and getting rid all of them is going to be tedious. I just recommended something which is available now.. if people can't wait for better solution, which obviously should replace existing one. :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

May 19, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: widget to show progress

by Denis Kudriashov

Hi 2013/5/19 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> > Here is a simple "widget" for you: > > Cursor wait showWhile: [ > ... do something which may end, but you cannot predict when... > ] > There is nice post about why it is bad http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/travis/blogView?showComments=true&… > :) > > On 19 May 2013 13:12, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Me too :) > > > > I think I will implement one soon :) > > Ben > > > > On May 19, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Usman Bhatti <usman.bhatti(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I am looking for a widget/control in Pharo that shows the progress of a > > process that takes undeterministic time. > > > > > > usman > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

May 19, 2013