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Re: [Pharo-users] Trying to install Pharo Non Core Packages from online instructions.

by Victor Stan

Maybe I missed it but perhaps a suggestion might be to have the writer or editor mark the version they used when writing the notes, just for reference. If I figure out how to run it I can leave a comment. Victor Stan On Apr 2, 2013 10:04 AM, "Marcus Denker" <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hello, > > This is a package for some very old version of Pharo, it makes no sense in > current versions as the code it loads > does not work in current versions of Pharo. > > Someone should update the editable book. > > Marcus > > On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Victor Stan <victor.stan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up Pharo Non Core Packages from the online instructions > I found while reading this: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non-Core-Packages/?_s=E… > > Unfortunately I get an error, as the attached image shows: > > > <image.png> > > What I have done, is selected all of the code and "done it", I've also > tried selecting only the Gopher part and do that first, then do the second > part, but it's at the second part that it crashes. > > Any tips? > > Many thanks, > > Victor Stan > > Schedule me: > http://quicklyschedule.quicklyschedule.me/victor > > Add me to your address book - it's easy! > http://contactmonkey.com/victor > > >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Trying to install Pharo Non Core Packages from online instructions.

by Marcus Denker

Hello, This is a package for some very old version of Pharo, it makes no sense in current versions as the code it loads does not work in current versions of Pharo. Someone should update the editable book. Marcus On Apr 2, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Victor Stan <victor.stan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up Pharo Non Core Packages from the online instructions I found while reading this: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non-Core-Packages/?_s=E… > > Unfortunately I get an error, as the attached image shows: > > > <image.png> > > What I have done, is selected all of the code and "done it", I've also tried selecting only the Gopher part and do that first, then do the second part, but it's at the second part that it crashes. > > Any tips? > > Many thanks, > > Victor Stan > > Schedule me: > http://quicklyschedule.quicklyschedule.me/victor > > Add me to your address book - it's easy! > http://contactmonkey.com/victor >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] SLOC in Smalltalk

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:54 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. > > Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. > > (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new > compileNoPattern: '| oc | > oc := OrderedCollection new: 20. > oc add: 1. > oc size' > in: UndefinedObject > context: nil > notifying: nil > ifFail: []) generate linesOfCode Hello, I do not think that this is wrong. The doit *does* contain a selector. if #linesOfCode would contain a special case for doits, it would be inconsistent. E.g. print this: thisContext method sourceCode --> 'DoIt ^ thisContext method sourceCode' There is a Doit. There is even a return in the that is generatedâ¦ and the doit is actually pretty-printed: thisContext method linesOfCode --> 2 So in short: dots are special, there is no need to change #linesOfCode, as there is no thinkable change that would make any sense. In general, LOC as a metric is not that good. It is better than nothing, but it makes more sense to count e.g. message sends or use more advanced metrics on the AST (not every statement adds the same to complexity, e.g. conditionals versus simple statements). Marcus

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Trying to install Pharo Non Core Packages from online instructions.

by Ben Coman

You are probably expecting the #load message to be sent to the result of #version:, but what actually happens is #load is sent to the string '1.1.1' and strings do not understand #load. A unary message (#load) is evaluated before a binary message (+) is evaluated before keyword message (#version:) . cheers -ben Victor Stan wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to set up Pharo Non Core Packages from the online instructions I > found while reading this: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non-Core-Packages/?_s=E… > > Unfortunately I get an error, as the attached image shows: > > > [image: Inline image 1] > > What I have done, is selected all of the code and "done it", I've also > tried selecting only the Gopher part and do that first, then do the second > part, but it's at the second part that it crashes. > > Any tips? > > Many thanks, > > Victor Stan > > Schedule me: > http://quicklyschedule.quicklyschedule.me/victor > > Add me to your address book - it's easy! > http://contactmonkey.com/victor > >

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] SLOC in Smalltalk

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

HernÃ¡n, It would be nice if you patch the WebCodeStats by yourself. I just set a read-write access to the http://www.squeaksource.com/WebCodeStats.html. Best regards Janko Dne 02. 04. 2013 04:54, piÅ¡e HernÃ¡n Morales Durand: > Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. > > Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression > below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the > autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. > > (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new > compileNoPattern: '| oc | > oc := OrderedCollection new: 20. > oc add: 1. > oc size' > in: UndefinedObject > context: nil > notifying: nil > ifFail: []) generate linesOfCode > > HernÃ¡n > > El 31/03/2013 10:17, Janko MivÅ¡ek escribiÃ³: >> Hi HernÃ¡n >> >> I once did some code statistics for our web frameworks, by counting: >> >> - Nr of packages, categories, classes, methods >> - lines of code >> - Avg methods/class >> - Avg lines/method >> >> - Nr of test methods >> - Avg tests/class >> >> - % of commented methods >> - % of commented classes >> >> Then three graphs were drawn: >> >> - Methods in classes >> - Class inheritance depth >> - Lines in methods >> >> Results can be seen here: >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndG4wbUpxNXpKQnFZRl… >> >> >> The code measuring all above is here: >> >> http://www.squeaksource.com/WebCodeStats.html >> >> >> Hope this helps >> Janko >> >> >> Dne 31. 03. 2013 09:23, piÅ¡e HernÃ¡n Morales Durand: >>> Hi there, >>> Guys, what are you using to measure logical lines of code (LOC) in >>> Pharo? >>> Given I am measuring a script, is there any other software measure you >>> may recommend? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >> > > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Trying to install Pharo Non Core Packages from online instructions.

by Yanni Chiu

On 01/04/13 9:17 PM, Victor Stan wrote: > > I'm trying to set up Pharo Non Core Packages from the online > instructions I found while reading this: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non-Core-Packages/?_s=E… If you open a Repository browser on squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository, and look at the latest ConfigurationOfPharoNonCore, the date is 10 June 2011. What image version are you using? It's a good idea to use an image of similar vintage, if you're trying to follow online doc's, because things are constantly changing. Unfortunately, the configuration and versioning tools are evolving as we go, so things are not as stable as it should be.

April 2, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SLOC in Smalltalk

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Hi Janko. Thanks for your useful package. Apparently there is some issue with #linesOfCode. The dummy expression below return 5 instead of 4 in Pharo 1.4 and 2 because is counting the autogenerated 'DoIt' selector. (UndefinedObject evaluatorClass new compileNoPattern: '| oc | oc := OrderedCollection new: 20. oc add: 1. oc size' in: UndefinedObject context: nil notifying: nil ifFail: []) generate linesOfCode HernÃ¡n El 31/03/2013 10:17, Janko MivÅ¡ek escribiÃ³: > Hi HernÃ¡n > > I once did some code statistics for our web frameworks, by counting: > > - Nr of packages, categories, classes, methods > - lines of code > - Avg methods/class > - Avg lines/method > > - Nr of test methods > - Avg tests/class > > - % of commented methods > - % of commented classes > > Then three graphs were drawn: > > - Methods in classes > - Class inheritance depth > - Lines in methods > > Results can be seen here: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Atnb1W9vuq9ndG4wbUpxNXpKQnFZRl… > > The code measuring all above is here: > > http://www.squeaksource.com/WebCodeStats.html > > > Hope this helps > Janko > > > Dne 31. 03. 2013 09:23, piÅ¡e HernÃ¡n Morales Durand: >> Hi there, >> Guys, what are you using to measure logical lines of code (LOC) in Pharo? >> Given I am measuring a script, is there any other software measure you >> may recommend? >> Cheers, >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >

April 2, 2013

Trying to install Pharo Non Core Packages from online instructions.

by Victor Stan

Hi, I'm trying to set up Pharo Non Core Packages from the online instructions I found while reading this: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/Pharo-Non-Core-Packages/?_s=E… Unfortunately I get an error, as the attached image shows: [image: Inline image 1] What I have done, is selected all of the code and "done it", I've also tried selecting only the Gopher part and do that first, then do the second part, but it's at the second part that it crashes. Any tips? Many thanks, Victor Stan Schedule me: http://quicklyschedule.quicklyschedule.me/victor Add me to your address book - it's easy! http://contactmonkey.com/victor

April 2, 2013

Smalltalk Hub password reset

by Victor Stan

Hi, I'm not sure where to get the attention of anyone that works for http://smalltalkhub.com, so I'm posting here, in hope that some of the admins or developers are following this list as well. There is no contact information or place to file bugs or request help for the http://smalltalkhub.com website. There is also no place to reset a lost password. When I type in my username and password, and they are incorrect, both fields are cleared out, perhaps only the password field should be cleared out? It is quite annoying to have to input the username all over again, usually people forget their password and less so their username. If there is a better place for me to discuss Smalltalk Hub related issues let me know :) Cheers, Victor Stan Schedule me: http://quicklyschedule.quicklyschedule.me/victor Add me to your address book - it's easy! http://contactmonkey.com/victor

April 1, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] a glimpse at new cool text editor made by alain P ; )

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 April 2013 22:10, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:47 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> In AlainPlantec/Rubric >>> >>> Now alain is a shy guy and he does not like to announce projects that are >>> not finished, but I could not resist. >>> >> yeah yeah.. i know that :) > > Igor, are you hiding something? :-) > I never hiding things.. because everything i doing i do for people to use. But i also tend to announce once things once it done and works (or at least in some useful state which suits my taste). :) > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

April 1, 2013