April 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Pharo Consortium reaches 10 Member Companies

by Marcus Denker

Hi, The Pharo Consortium now reached 10 Member Companies: http://consortium.pharo.org -> 10 Members 3 Gold, 3 Silver, 4 Bronze -> 4 Academic Partners -> 1 Sponsoring Company Marcus

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo 2.0] ConfigurationOfSeaside30 problems

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 10, 2013, at 8:56 AM, jtuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Hi Marcus, > > there's nothing anybody should have to be looking for excuses for. Pharo 2.0 > is brand new and it takes time to make all projects loadable... > > I was just curious if I had missed something, and if not, I wanted to let > people know it doesnt't work. No accusations intended. > Not seen as an accusation.. it is just so frustrating that there are always "obvious" things that are non-excusable that they don't exist. Even if one fixes one of those (or 10), there will be another... > Also my questions about where to load code from and how to find out which > repositories may be of interest to a newbie pharoer who is not yet into > publishing code but just take a look was intended as both a question for > help to see the trees in the forest and an inspiration for improvements on > what could be described better. Once I've found my way and am confident > enough I might help with thisâ¦ > What we do have is the Configuration Browser. This just lists MetaCello configs of one repositoryâ¦ which will be good enough for "load project X" as soon the config is there. Marcus

April 10, 2013

Regex with Quantifiers

by jtuchel

It seems Pharo's Regex package does support quantifiers, but not correctly. Or I am completely on the wrong track here. If I inspect this in a workspace: '123' matchesRegex: '\d{1,3}' I would expect the result either to be true or an exception. True if quantifiers were supported, an exception otherwise. The Regex-Tests do not test {}, so I am not sure if the matcher is supposed to support it. Can anybody shed some light on this? Joachim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Regex-with-Quantifiers-tp4680523.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo 2.0] ConfigurationOfSeaside30 problems

by jtuchel

Hi Marcus, there's nothing anybody should have to be looking for excuses for. Pharo 2.0 is brand new and it takes time to make all projects loadable... I was just curious if I had missed something, and if not, I wanted to let people know it doesnt't work. No accusations intended. Also my questions about where to load code from and how to find out which repositories may be of interest to a newbie pharoer who is not yet into publishing code but just take a look was intended as both a question for help to see the trees in the forest and an inspiration for improvements on what could be described better. Once I've found my way and am confident enough I might help with this... Joachim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-2-0-ConfigurationOfSeaside30-problems-tp4680360… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo 2.0] ConfigurationOfSeaside30 problems

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 10, 2013, at 6:11 AM, jtuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Hi > > > well,es, I Hand Rad about Johan's efforts. So there is currently no way 'out > of the box' to load Seaside into Pharo 2.0. I've been able to load it by > using a workspace that Sven published here or on the Seaside list (based on > a script provided by Lukas). I had to run it several times in a fresh image > to get it running, but it finally worked. > > > This thread, however, brings me to another set of questions. > > I am not (yet) a user fluent in Pharo and one thing that confuses me a lot > is the question of where from and how to load code. You guys are talking > about THE seaside repository and THE metacello repository. And there is > SmalltalkHub and some people publish their code (exclusively?) on github. > > > So has anybody collected some list of important repositories that are of > interest to normal users? And are there code examples of how to use each of > them? For now, I am not asking about publishing there, just loading. > > > What repository does the Configurations Browser read from? Is it THE > metacello repository? Will Johan's new ConfigurationOfSeaside appear there > automatically once he pushes it to THE metacello repository? The inner > workings of this (like blessing levels )and such to make that happen would > be interesting, but are not important for me right now, and I guess this is > true for many users that look at Pharo for the first time. > > > Maybe all of this is already written down somewhere and I simply need a link > to this placeâ¦ > What is missing is a real Catalog of packages to be installed. This is just missing now, no excuses. Marcus

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo 2.0] ConfigurationOfSeaside30 problems

by jtuchel

Hi well,es, I Hand Rad about Johan's efforts. So there is currently no way 'out of the box' to load Seaside into Pharo 2.0. I've been able to load it by using a workspace that Sven published here or on the Seaside list (based on a script provided by Lukas). I had to run it several times in a fresh image to get it running, but it finally worked. This thread, however, brings me to another set of questions. I am not (yet) a user fluent in Pharo and one thing that confuses me a lot is the question of where from and how to load code. You guys are talking about THE seaside repository and THE metacello repository. And there is SmalltalkHub and some people publish their code (exclusively?) on github. So has anybody collected some list of important repositories that are of interest to normal users? And are there code examples of how to use each of them? For now, I am not asking about publishing there, just loading. What repository does the Configurations Browser read from? Is it THE metacello repository? Will Johan's new ConfigurationOfSeaside appear there automatically once he pushes it to THE metacello repository? The inner workings of this (like blessing levels )and such to make that happen would be interesting, but are not important for me right now, and I guess this is true for many users that look at Pharo for the first time. Maybe all of this is already written down somewhere and I simply need a link to this place... Thanks, Joachim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-2-0-ConfigurationOfSeaside30-problems-tp4680360… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 10, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside (3.0) on Pharo 2.0 (Zinc) and comet

by Esteban A. Maringolo

WebSockets will fulfill most of your needs, except browser compatibility (it only works on limited browsers). But its use is really straightforward. If you can control which web browser to use. Yesterday we successfully demoed a prototype Android app with a Seaside backend, it uses Seaside, REST, and live updates with WebSockets sent to Chrome running in a Tablet. The whole stack is there for you to use* :) Regards, * Given the proper ConfigurationOf* :) Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/4/9 Ingo Hohmann <pharo(a)ingohohmann.de> > Hi Sven, > > thank you for the answer. > > The specific reason for comet is that it is described in the seaside book. > :-) > > I might think about using for a changes streamm that us pushed to the > client, but there is no real need at the moment. > > > Kind regards, > > Ingo > > > > > On 04/09/2013 11:50 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > >> There is an implementation of WebSockets on top of Zinc, and there is a >> streaming Seaside adaptor. Is there a reason you need Comet specifically ? >> > > >

April 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Seaside (3.0) on Pharo 2.0 (Zinc) and comet

by Ingo Hohmann

Hi Sven, thank you for the answer. The specific reason for comet is that it is described in the seaside book. :-) I might think about using for a changes streamm that us pushed to the client, but there is no real need at the moment. Kind regards, Ingo On 04/09/2013 11:50 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: > There is an implementation of WebSockets on top of Zinc, and there is > a streaming Seaside adaptor. Is there a reason you need Comet > specifically ?

April 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo 2.0] ConfigurationOfSeaside30 problems

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 9, 2013, at 3:35 PM, Jan van de Sandt <jvdsandt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Joachim, > > Johan Brichau and others are working on a new ConfigurationOf for Pharo 2.0 and Seaside 3.0 / 3.1 [1]. I think Seaside 3.0.8. is already working in Pharo 2.0. > > The latest ConfigurationOf package is probably only available in the Seaside repository yet. if this is the case and it is loading please publish it in the metacelloRepository :) > > Jan. > > [1] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/seaside-dev/2013-April/005237.h… > > > > > On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:19 AM, jtuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> wrote: > Hi in a fresh install of the Pharo20 package on Mac I opened the > Configuration Browser and tried loading Seaside30 from the "unverified" tab. > > The load then fails with MetacelloProjectLoadError: No version found for > #stable of ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser. > > I'd rather like to load Seaside 3.1 anyways, but it seems there is currently > no up-to-date Configuration available yet. Right? > > Joachim > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-2-0-ConfigurationOfSeaside30-problems-tp4680360… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

April 9, 2013

Pharo resources page by J Robertson :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys james organized his videos and this is cool to find its way: http://www.jarober.com/blog/pharoResources.ssp Stef

April 9, 2013