April 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] TreeListMorph or MorphTreeMorph

by Benjamin

Exactly :) I am saying that because I have this kind of question when I spend days documenting Morphic infrastructure :) Everyone is like "Yeah, but we will throw away this crap", and that's perfectly true. But in mid-time so poor guys have to stuck with the existing infrastructure (like you in this case), and I really think it makes perfect sense to document something even if it will be deprecated in 6 months. First because even deprecated it will still be used during 1 year and a half. Moreover I deeply do not believe in a perfect system where nothing need to be changed anymore, so at some point everything will be deprecated and rewritten, that's why I said that even if something will be deprecated, it worth to be documented :) Sorry if my message was not understood as I wanted :) Ben On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:55 PM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)free.fr> wrote: > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> When you fell unproductive -- stuck -- because you read library code you >> have to use but you don't understand it, or at least not deeply enough, >> it is not funny. > > Yes this is why ben said that this is always worth to document. > > STef > >> >> Le 15/04/2013 12:18, Benjamin a Ã©crit : >>> It always make sense :) >>> >>> At the end, everything will be deprecated once :) >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu >> >> > >

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Programming desktop applications in Morphic

by Stephan Eggermont

You might want to take a look at Roassal combined with Glamour. That might save you a lot of work. The easiest way is to download a Moose 4.8 (that is based on Pharo 2.0) Stephan

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] The Rationale behind Spec - questions

by Stephan Eggermont

Johan wrote: >A big +1 to that :-) >We actually have a similar policy at the level of the department here, everything is online on >https://upapers.dcc.uchile.cl/ > But this is only after it has been published and then it takes a month, so the Spec paper is still in the pipeline here ... Sounds like https://drafts.dcc.uchile.cl would be a good idea Stephan

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Regex with Quantifiers

by jtuchel

Hi again, I just found the PBE2 - chapter on Regex. First of all: That is an excellent chapter, thanks a lot guys for writing and providing it!!! It doesn't mention {} quantifiers, so I guess it is simply a feature too new in Regexes for it to be supported by Vassily's Regex code. So I started a new tiny experiment: '123{' matchesRegex: '\123{' --> true which means the regex matcher treats { as a normal character. I guess this is okay with Regex 1.1, a version that didn't know {} quantifiers, right? Is anybody aware of a Regex matcher in Smalltalk that supports a newer Regex version? I am asking because in an application I need to process an impressive set of business rules provided by a third party that is expressed with lots of regexes. It would be nice if I could simply use these expressions uniformly for both HTML5 input fields and my Server application in Seaside... Joachim -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Regex-with-Quantifiers-tp4680523p4681637.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] The Rationale behind Spec - questions

by Johan Fabry

A big +1 to that :-) We actually have a similar policy at the level of the department here, everything is online on https://upapers.dcc.uchile.cl/ But this is only after it has been published and then it takes a month, so the Spec paper is still in the pipeline here ... On Apr 15, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > The fun thing is that Inria now has the offical policy that any paper that is not on HAL for free download will not be > counted in any of our internal reviews and we are not allowed to even mention it in official reports. > Quite nice. > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] TreeListMorph or MorphTreeMorph

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 15, 2013, at 4:45 PM, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > When you fell unproductive -- stuck -- because you read library code you > have to use but you don't understand it, or at least not deeply enough, > it is not funny. Yes this is why ben said that this is always worth to document. STef > > Le 15/04/2013 12:18, Benjamin a Ã©crit : >> It always make sense :) >> >> At the end, everything will be deprecated once :) > > > -- > Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu > >

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] The Rationale behind Spec - questions

by Johan Fabry

Hi Phil, sorry for the confusion.The paper is actually available on-line for free here: http://hal.inria.fr/hal-00759030/ My bad. Enjoy! On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:47 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Preprint would be welcome over here as well :-) > > > 2013/4/15 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> > Hi Kenneth, > > there is some literature on Spec that might help you out. > > - The tech report serves as a 'getting started' http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/70/80/67/PDF/SpecTechReport.pdf > - Also, we published a paper that talks more about the motivations behind spec and itsadvantages.http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?doid=2448963.2448965 I can send you a preprint in a direct message if you are unable to download it. > > Greetings, ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] TreeListMorph or MorphTreeMorph

by Hilaire Fernandes

When you fell unproductive -- stuck -- because you read library code you have to use but you don't understand it, or at least not deeply enough, it is not funny. Le 15/04/2013 12:18, Benjamin a Ã©crit : > It always make sense :) > > At the end, everything will be deprecated once :) -- Dr. Geo http://drgeo.eu

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] TreeListMorph or MorphTreeMorph

by stephane ducasse

On Apr 15, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It always make sense :) > > At the end, everything will be deprecated once :) sadly :) but we should enjoy life before :)

April 15, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] The Rationale behind Spec - questions

by Marcus Denker

On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > Hi Phil, > > sorry for the confusion.The paper is actually available on-line for free > here: http://hal.inria.fr/hal-00759030/ My bad > The fun thing is that Inria now has the offical policy that any paper that is not on HAL for free download will not be counted in any of our internal reviews and we are not allowed to even mention it in official reports. Quite nice. -- Marcus Denker -- denker(a)acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de

April 15, 2013