March 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] More GSoC ideas wanted, 3 days left ....

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Hi Paul, Can you continue describing your idea so that one will grasp the essentials without needing to open first the Wikipedia links. Idea looks promising, just not clarified yet enough. I'm pretty user you can continue evolving it by yourself. Best regards Janko Dne 27. 03. 2013 17:39, piÅ¡e Paul DeBruicker: > This is the second of two not well fleshed out ideas. > > On 03/26/2013 04:36 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: >> Title: >> > Implement Fast Byzantine Paxos in Slang > > >> Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) >> > > Advanced > >> Possible mentor: (if already known) >> >> Possible second mentor: (if already known) >> > > I am willing to help out but I'm sure there's someone better as I don't > know slang or how to go about implementing Paxos. yet. > >> Description >> > Paxos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxos_%28computer_science%29) is a > framework for solving consensus in a network of unreliable processors. > A python implementation is available here: http://openreplica.org/ > >> Technical Details >> > Could just port ConCoord (the openreplica.org's backend) from Python to > Slang rather than starting from scratch. > >> Benefits to the Student >> > Learn Smalltalk, Slang. Implement something hard. > >> Benefits to the Community > With enough images you can just persist everything in the image and each > image can be a reasonable size. > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Nicolai Hess

2013/3/27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > > Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs > reported for 2.0 after the release... > So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just > because nobody is using it? > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > How to report bugs? I tried to register at http://bugs.pharo.org. But nothing happens. BTW the bug-tracker link at https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W43 is wrong: http://www.bugs.pharo.org/ should be: http://bugs.pharo.org/ regards Nicolai

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] More GSoC ideas wanted, 3 days left ....

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:36 AM, Esteban A. Maringolo <emaringolo(a)gmail.com > wrote: > > Having an efficient event loop would give us a great tool to handle > concurrent connections in a evented manner. Doing those with blocks and > objects will be a pleasure. > > But please consider Node.js is using libuv now > (https://github.com/joyent/libuv) as a common layer for most platforms. > > Yes, good point, maybe we could leave it open and just title item "Event loop library integration" Davorin

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] More GSoC ideas wanted, 3 days left ....

by Paul DeBruicker

This is the second of two not well fleshed out ideas. On 03/26/2013 04:36 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Title: > Implement Fast Byzantine Paxos in Slang > Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) > Advanced > Possible mentor: (if already known) > > Possible second mentor: (if already known) > I am willing to help out but I'm sure there's someone better as I don't know slang or how to go about implementing Paxos. yet. > Description > Paxos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paxos_%28computer_science%29) is a framework for solving consensus in a network of unreliable processors. A python implementation is available here: http://openreplica.org/ > Technical Details > Could just port ConCoord (the openreplica.org's backend) from Python to Slang rather than starting from scratch. > Benefits to the Student > Learn Smalltalk, Slang. Implement something hard. > Benefits to the Community With enough images you can just persist everything in the image and each image can be a reasonable size.

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

2013/3/27 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs reported for 2.0 after the release... > So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just because nobody is using it? As a side note I would say it happens with any major release (See Python 3 or Ruby 2 during the last months, or even PHP4/PHP5 years ago). The upgrade to anything that's not backward compatible by design, IMHO, is more a matter of confidence than features. But sooner or later they will come :) Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Johan Fabry

On Mar 27, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2013/3/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>: >> You guys are all too cool and we are in awe :-) >> >> As for my case, I sadly have not really had any time to play with it yet :-( Is Seaside running on 2.0? I need to do an update to a web app soon and I'd love to do it that way ... > > I don't have a full coverage scenario, but for what I could test > yesterday it is working. Seaside-REST included. Cool, that's good enough for me to give it a try! Can you point me to instructions on how you installed it? ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] More GSoC ideas wanted, 3 days left ....

by Paul DeBruicker

I have two not well thought out ideas for projects. This is the first: On 03/26/2013 04:36 AM, Janko MivÅ¡ek wrote: > Title: > Create a package that integrates the Unicode Common Locale Data Repository (CLDR) into Squeak/Pharo > Level: (beginner, intermediate, advanced) > Beginner? > Possible mentor: (if already known) > > Possible second mentor: (if already known) > I could help out (or not) but may be someone better to lead. > Description > See: http://cldr.unicode.org/ The CLDR is a maintained set of locale specific information for use in programs. Creating a package that integrates it into Squeak & Pharo would help with i18n and l10n for the platforms. It would be preferable to be able to load a limited number of locales rather than the whole thing into every image. We would probably benefit from having a Fuel based data repo somewhere that can access the updated and interpreted standards. > Technical Details > The CLDR is constantly edited and updated and published as a spec and set of XML files. Those files would need to be regularly downloaded and parsed to create a publicly available > Benefits to the Student > Work with international standards, web services, wider knowledge of the affects of the actions of politicians and history. umm. > Benefits to the Community Being able to properly interpret, compare, and format currencies, dates, times, inside their images.

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Tudor Girba

I am using it to develop the latest Moose 4.8 (and everyone else working on the latest Moose). Everything works fine, except for the usability issues induced by the mix of default kebindings (a new set in Nautilus, and an old set in the other tools). I am also migrating right now our in-company Moose-based tools, and these will be used in production scenarios (developers and consultants). Cheers, Doru On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs > reported for 2.0 after the release... > So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just > because nobody is using it? > > Cheers, > Esteban > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Johan Fabry

You guys are all too cool and we are in awe :-) As for my case, I sadly have not really had any time to play with it yet :-( Is Seaside running on 2.0? I need to do an update to a web app soon and I'd love to do it that way ... On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi, > > On 27 Mar 2013, at 15:24, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Here in Pharo headquarters we are shock that there are just 10 new bugs reported for 2.0 after the release... >> So... I wonder... is that because we made a really cool release, or just because nobody is using it? >> >> Cheers, >> Esteban > > Of course there are still (mostly undiscovered) bugs, but overall I find 2.0 really solid. > > I really think that all the hard work in the last couple of months/weeks did pay off. > > Thanks ! > > Sven > > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

March 27, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] in anybody out there? who uses 2.0?

by Esteban A. Maringolo

> 2013/3/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>: >> On Mar 27, 2013, at 11:01 AM, "Esteban A. Maringolo" <emaringolo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> 2013/3/27 Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl>: >>> As for my case, I sadly have not really had any time to play with it yet :-( Is Seaside running on 2.0? I need to do an update to a web app soon and I'd love to do it that way ... >> >> I don't have a full coverage scenario, but for what I could test >> yesterday it is working. Seaside-REST included. > Cool, that's good enough for me to give it a try! Can you point me to instructions on how you installed it? Sure. I used this script: https://github.com/renggli/builder/blob/master/scripts/seaside31-pharo2.st Regards!

March 27, 2013