December 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Shrinking Pharo 3 image

by Sergi Reyner

2013/12/11 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > Have a look at the ReUnloader package under my project on smalltalkhub. > Which one?

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by phil＠highoctane.be

I do self flag: #TODO. "blah" Senders of symbol works too. Made a nautilus too that gives me the list so that I can click and go there. Phil On Wednesday, December 11, 2013, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > I think what may be needed is a community website with materials like > cookbook recipes, idea sheets, useful links, related blogs and such > --basically anything except maybe mailing lists and forums. Am I right? > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > On 12/11/2013 14:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are > typically used > > in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from > community" style. > > > > But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution > for a > > problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should > share the > > answer/solution as well. > > > > I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo > much easier > > and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the > list. > > > > Be it > > - a simple and useful script > > - a simple key combination other may not yet know of > > - a package one can use or how you use it > > - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo > > - a custom tool that makes development easier > > - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant > > - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app > > - ... > > > > Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which > Pharo > > version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which > > version the trick/solution is known to work. > > > > The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail > with > > subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND > Pharo user > > list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick > counter xxxx. > > > > Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the > > mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a > common > > problem other may ask for on the list. > > > > Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo > tricks ;) > > > > Bye > > T. > > > > > > I will start with something easy but useful: > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other > versions too > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all > features. > > Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma > on a method is > > the easiest solution here: > > > > foo > > <todo: 'Add world later'> > > "That method is not yet fully implemented" > > > > Transcript show: 'Hello' > > > > > > Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs > for your > > project afterwards in a window: > > > > SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: > > > > You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the > full > > list of things to work on: > > > > (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) > > reset; > > collect: [:each| each arguments first ] > > > > As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others too > > it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or similar. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Bahman Movaqar

I'd be very glad to offer Pharo community a free full-fledged Plone website to use as a community website, a few examples: http://yfl.BahmanM.com http://michael.richter.name The services I can offer include * The ability to create several content types on the websites: + Pages (recipes, articles, ideas, ...) + Links + Forums + Images * Accurate full-text-search * Upload any type of file * And whatever else the community requires Let me know if you are interested in this offer. -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) On 12/11/2013 14:55, Bahman Movaqar wrote: > I think what may be needed is a community website with materials like > cookbook recipes, idea sheets, useful links, related blogs and such > --basically anything except maybe mailing lists and forums. Am I right? > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > On 12/11/2013 14:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are typically used >> in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from community" style. >> >> But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution for a >> problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should share the >> answer/solution as well. >> >> I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo much easier >> and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the list. >> >> Be it >> - a simple and useful script >> - a simple key combination other may not yet know of >> - a package one can use or how you use it >> - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo >> - a custom tool that makes development easier >> - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant >> - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app >> - ... >> >> Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which Pharo >> version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which >> version the trick/solution is known to work. >> >> The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail with >> subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND Pharo user >> list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick counter xxxx. >> >> Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the >> mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a common >> problem other may ask for on the list. >> >> Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo tricks ;) >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> >> I will start with something easy but useful: >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other versions too >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all features. >> Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma on a method is >> the easiest solution here: >> >> foo >> <todo: 'Add world later'> >> "That method is not yet fully implemented" >> >> Transcript show: 'Hello' >> >> >> Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs for your >> project afterwards in a window: >> >> SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: >> >> You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the full >> list of things to work on: >> >> (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) >> reset; >> collect: [:each| each arguments first ] >> >> As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others too >> it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or similar. >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Sergi Reyner

2013/12/11 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Better yet: write a blog post and send the link to the list. > With that approach there's the issue that blogs can (and do) go away for various reasons :/ Cheers, Sergi

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Luc Fabresse

or use the Collaboractive Book: http://book.pharo-project.org Luc #Luc 2013/12/11 Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> > Better yet: write a blog post and send the link to the list. > > Doru > > > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: > >> I think what may be needed is a community website with materials like >> cookbook recipes, idea sheets, useful links, related blogs and such >> --basically anything except maybe mailing lists and forums. Am I right? >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> >> On 12/11/2013 14:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are >> typically used >> > in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from >> community" style. >> > >> > But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution >> for a >> > problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should >> share the >> > answer/solution as well. >> > >> > I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo >> much easier >> > and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the >> list. >> > >> > Be it >> > - a simple and useful script >> > - a simple key combination other may not yet know of >> > - a package one can use or how you use it >> > - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo >> > - a custom tool that makes development easier >> > - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant >> > - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app >> > - ... >> > >> > Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which >> Pharo >> > version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which >> > version the trick/solution is known to work. >> > >> > The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail >> with >> > subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND >> Pharo user >> > list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick >> counter xxxx. >> > >> > Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the >> > mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a >> common >> > problem other may ask for on the list. >> > >> > Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo >> tricks ;) >> > >> > Bye >> > T. >> > >> > >> > I will start with something easy but useful: >> > >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other >> versions too >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all >> features. >> > Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma >> on a method is >> > the easiest solution here: >> > >> > foo >> > <todo: 'Add world later'> >> > "That method is not yet fully implemented" >> > >> > Transcript show: 'Hello' >> > >> > >> > Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs >> for your >> > project afterwards in a window: >> > >> > SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: >> > >> > You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the >> full >> > list of things to work on: >> > >> > (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) >> > reset; >> > collect: [:each| each arguments first ] >> > >> > As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others >> too >> > it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or >> similar. >> > >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" >

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Tudor Girba

Better yet: write a blog post and send the link to the list. Doru On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > I think what may be needed is a community website with materials like > cookbook recipes, idea sheets, useful links, related blogs and such > --basically anything except maybe mailing lists and forums. Am I right? > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > On 12/11/2013 14:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are > typically used > > in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from > community" style. > > > > But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution > for a > > problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should > share the > > answer/solution as well. > > > > I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo > much easier > > and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the > list. > > > > Be it > > - a simple and useful script > > - a simple key combination other may not yet know of > > - a package one can use or how you use it > > - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo > > - a custom tool that makes development easier > > - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant > > - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app > > - ... > > > > Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which > Pharo > > version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which > > version the trick/solution is known to work. > > > > The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail > with > > subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND > Pharo user > > list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick > counter xxxx. > > > > Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the > > mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a > common > > problem other may ask for on the list. > > > > Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo > tricks ;) > > > > Bye > > T. > > > > > > I will start with something easy but useful: > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other > versions too > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all > features. > > Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma > on a method is > > the easiest solution here: > > > > foo > > <todo: 'Add world later'> > > "That method is not yet fully implemented" > > > > Transcript show: 'Hello' > > > > > > Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs > for your > > project afterwards in a window: > > > > SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: > > > > You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the > full > > list of things to work on: > > > > (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) > > reset; > > collect: [:each| each arguments first ] > > > > As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others too > > it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or similar. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Bahman Movaqar

I think what may be needed is a community website with materials like cookbook recipes, idea sheets, useful links, related blogs and such --basically anything except maybe mailing lists and forums. Am I right? -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) On 12/11/2013 14:46, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Hi, > > the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are typically used > in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from community" style. > > But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution for a > problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should share the > answer/solution as well. > > I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo much easier > and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the list. > > Be it > - a simple and useful script > - a simple key combination other may not yet know of > - a package one can use or how you use it > - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo > - a custom tool that makes development easier > - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant > - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app > - ... > > Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which Pharo > version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which > version the trick/solution is known to work. > > The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail with > subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND Pharo user > list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick counter xxxx. > > Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the > mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a common > problem other may ask for on the list. > > Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo tricks ;) > > Bye > T. > > > I will start with something easy but useful: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other versions too > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all features. > Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma on a method is > the easiest solution here: > > foo > <todo: 'Add world later'> > "That method is not yet fully implemented" > > Transcript show: 'Hello' > > > Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs for your > project afterwards in a window: > > SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: > > You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the full > list of things to work on: > > (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) > reset; > collect: [:each| each arguments first ] > > As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others too > it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or similar. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >

Dec. 11, 2013

[Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO list

by Torsten Bergmann

Hi, the mailinglist, stackoverflow and other Pharo related medias are typically used in the "here is a question to problem" followed by an "answer from community" style. But lets also think the other way around: if we already have a solution for a problem that others may have too or may have in the future we should share the answer/solution as well. I'm sure many of you have some tricks that make developing with Pharo much easier and others can profit from these tricks if we share them here on the list. Be it - a simple and useful script - a simple key combination other may not yet know of - a package one can use or how you use it - a link to a nice description on the web related on how to use Pharo - a custom tool that makes development easier - an algorithm or something that you think was solved very elegant - a way you solved a common problem easily in your app - ... Then just describe it in a few lines and post it. Also write in which Pharo version you tried it - this makes it easier for others to see in which version the trick/solution is known to work. The idea goes like this: if you have a trick to share then send a mail with subject "Pharo Trick: #xxxx] - Short Description" to the Pharo dev AND Pharo user list (see http://lists.pharo.org) Make sure to increase the trick counter xxxx. Using this special subject one can later easily get the tricks from the mailinglist archive. Also others can refer to the trick if it solves a common problem other may ask for on the list. Lets see if we are able to reach the goals of 100, 1000 or more Pharo tricks ;) Bye T. I will start with something easy but useful: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [Pharo Trick: #0001] - Simple TODO ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Works in: Pharo3.0 Latest update: #30635 but should work in other versions too ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you develop an app with Pharo you may not yet fully implement all features. Some kind of marker for future "ToDo's" is often needed. Using a pragma on a method is the easiest solution here: foo <todo: 'Add world later'> "That method is not yet fully implemented" Transcript show: 'Hello' Using a simple expression in the workspace you can browse all the TODOs for your project afterwards in a window: SystemNavigation default browseAllSendersOf: #todo: You can even query the system for the todo descriptions if you need the full list of things to work on: (PragmaCollector filter: [:prg | prg keyword = 'todo:']) reset; collect: [:each| each arguments first ] As the pragma keyword #todo: is very common and may be used by others too it may be wise to use a custom one like "myappplicationTodo:" or similar. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Shrinking Pharo 3 image

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 10, 2013, at 11:37 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for your responses. > I imagine the daunting task unloading Nautilus should have been. :p took time but now it is working. Have a look at the ReUnloader package under my project on smalltalkhub. Ideally I would like to move ushc methods in their respective package/configurationof. Stef > Nacho > > > Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I'm trying slowly. Because I want to reload everything with metacello configurations. > Tomorrow I will pair program with pavel to make progress on that. > I could unload > Nautilus > RB > but there are many more. > > Stef > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:40 PM, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to unload some of the packages from Pharo 3 to come up with a > > reduced Pharo Image. > > I don't know if someone has already succeeded at getting a Pharo kernel > > image. Just the basic and really needed classes and packages. > > And then have the possibility to reload Athens, Zinc, Zodiac, ASM, etc, as > > needed. > > Simply unloading the packages from Monticello does not work, as it seems > > some of the packages are correlated, and I don't really know packages' > > dependencies. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance & best regards. > > Nacho > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Nacho > > Smalltalker apprentice. > > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > -- > > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Shrinking-Pharo-3-image-tp4729041.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > >

Dec. 11, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Shrinking Pharo 3 image

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Thanks for your responses. I imagine the daunting task unloading Nautilus should have been. :p Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 7:10 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > I'm trying slowly. Because I want to reload everything with metacello > configurations. > Tomorrow I will pair program with pavel to make progress on that. > I could unload > Nautilus > RB > but there are many more. > > Stef > > On Dec 10, 2013, at 8:40 PM, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > I'm trying to unload some of the packages from Pharo 3 to come up with a > > reduced Pharo Image. > > I don't know if someone has already succeeded at getting a Pharo kernel > > image. Just the basic and really needed classes and packages. > > And then have the possibility to reload Athens, Zinc, Zodiac, ASM, etc, > as > > needed. > > Simply unloading the packages from Monticello does not work, as it seems > > some of the packages are correlated, and I don't really know packages' > > dependencies. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Thanks in advance & best regards. > > Nacho > > > > > > > > > > ----- > > Nacho > > Smalltalker apprentice. > > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Shrinking-Pharo-3-image-tp4729041.html > > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > >

Dec. 10, 2013