December 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - The amount of items in a section should be limited and if there are more > of them they should be seen in a separate list or something like that. The > idea would be to limit the vertical size of the widget. As a start, to make it more useable, I limited each group to 7 results. Mac's Spotlight seems to take the total screen height available and divide it equally among the groups, but I'm not going to write that algorithm now... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spotlight-Demo-tp4733077p4733376.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Sean P. DeNigris

Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - "SpotlightCompletionExample open" does not seem work. Would you be more specificâ¦ If I do it in a fresh 2.0 image after using the Gofer expression above, I get a text field. If I type "int" in the text field, I get results below. And if I click on one of the results, I it is entered into the text field. ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spotlight-Demo-tp4733077p4733364.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Android - is it available?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi peter I will let esteban reply to you because I do not know where the code is hosted. We should check https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid Now there is not much effort on PharoDroid I know that it is working but I imagine that it could be way better (you know time/moneyâ¦) Stef On 31 Dec 2013, at 17:44, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk> wrote: > I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just acquired an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another development language to produce my own simple apps. After a Google search, I have found http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, which says it is available, at least as a beta. The site says that downloads from there are deprecated, and gives a link to https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for the download. This link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a download of Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And does it make sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about Dr Geo, so I suppose the answer is yes)? > > Many thanks for help > > Peter Kenny

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Best wishes for 2014

by Yuriy Tymchuk

Happy new year all! And thank you Stef, for being the centre of our galaxy and keeping us together. Uko On 31 Dec 2013, at 20:53, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hi pharoers > > Sometimes I think that we are crazy to build this system but this is really > important to have dreams and make them becoming true. :) > I really like what we are doing: we are building a strong community and a really great system. > Of course it could be better but it is going in the right direction at full speed. > Now remember that Pharo is not ours but YOURS and you can get an impact! > Pharo is not read-only. > > This year we got some nice and important changes. I think that in 2014 we will have some > important improvements. We will have to finish what we started and build a solid ground for > the next iteration. > > I really like our community because it pushes me forward and because my dreams are becoming > reality :) > > I wish you a lot of success and health. > > Stef

Dec. 31, 2013

Best wishes for 2014

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi pharoers Sometimes I think that we are crazy to build this system but this is really important to have dreams and make them becoming true. :) I really like what we are doing: we are building a strong community and a really great system. Of course it could be better but it is going in the right direction at full speed. Now remember that Pharo is not ours but YOURS and you can get an impact! Pharo is not read-only. This year we got some nice and important changes. I think that in 2014 we will have some important improvements. We will have to finish what we started and build a solid ground for the next iteration. I really like our community because it pushes me forward and because my dreams are becoming reality :) I wish you a lot of success and health. Stef

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Sean P. DeNigris

Thanks for the thorough feedback :) Tudor Girba-2 wrote > Thanks for this! I wanted a widget like this for a long time. Cool! Glad you like it... Tudor Girba-2 wrote > It would certainly be > interesting to join forces here. Absolutely :) Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - Computing the result list should not block the UI (it can take long). > - The amount of items in a section should be limited and if there are more > of them they should be seen in a separate list or something like that. The > idea would be to limit the vertical size of the widget. Yes! These are the first two items on my to-do list, but I wanted to release and get feedback first. Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - The widget should be dismissible with Esc. > - Pressing the up/down arrows should move in the list. Any other typed > character should continue modifying the text field area. > - "SpotlightCompletionExample open" does not seem work. These should all be working. I'll see if maybe I forgot to commit something... Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - The first element in the list should be selected all the time. Like > this, > you can type and then press Enter without using arrows and the mouse. I have to think about this one. - For Spotlight, I guess it makes sense as long as the most exact match appears first. There was a reaaaaaaally annoying Spotlight behavior that "String" would send you to browse StringAPISetting or some such nonsense. - For entry completion, what if the text field is part of a larger widget. It's conceivable that one would end up typing something not in the list, and the text field may have its own enter behavior e.g. accept on enter... Tudor Girba-2 wrote > - The list of results should not allow editing (it now does so). > - The input text should be a field (so, no enter should be allowed). I'm not sure what you mean. Will you say more about these? ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spotlight-Demo-tp4733077p4733331.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] Spotlight Demo

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > How about to add Packages? Sure! It's completely configurable via the API. In the example it was showing classes and selectors, but you could show files, or your own domain objects (which is how I'm using it). ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spotlight-Demo-tp4733077p4733329.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spotlight Demo

by Sean P. DeNigris

kilon alios wrote > I think your GUI takes too much space on screen , there is too much open > space and that for me is not good. I agree. I haven't figured out how to fix the width. No matter how I set the #hResizing of SpotlightMorph, it expands as much as it wants. kilon alios wrote > Also I would love to see it work in > Pharo 3, I have no reason to work on Pharo 2 and loads of reasons to work > on Pharo 3 :) Should be easy. It's only on 2.0 right now, because that's where the app I'm using it in runs. kilon alios wrote > I would also like to have a sticky window on demand so it > does not disappear each time I click away. I don't see why not... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spotlight-Demo-tp4733077p4733328.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Android - is it available?

by kilon alios

I have tried squeak on my android devices, it basically runs on android yes but it does not behave well with multi touch its practically unusable. Basically it does not understand when someone lifts his finger from the screen , so it can get clicks but its sticky clicks.So moving windows around and clicking on things is a pain and not usable at all. I suspect something similar applies for pharo too. If you want to develop for mobile devices your best bet right now is Amber. Amber tries to be as compatible as possible to pharo and compiles to javascript. You should be able to use pharo as a backend if you want to but I have not tried to really confirm this, I dont see any reason why this wont work. The advantage of amber is that any app you develop with it wont be just a mobile app but also a web app. Using pharo for desktop apps is of course perfectly doable and recommended or as a backend to web apps. But if you have a tablet and want to focus on this I would say that Amber + Pharo should seal the deal for you and you will give you access to loads of stuff you can do because amber will give you immediate access to all Javascript libraries and that can only be a good thing :) Also javascript is probably a very good way to develop Android apps that also work on iOS.

Dec. 31, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo on Android - is it available?

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Peter, I don't know the current state of Android's VM. It is, however, fully functional on ARM as I regularly run it now my Raspberry Pi both under Linux and RISC OS. Note, however, that -at least the version for the RasPi- is not a COG VM. So running Pharo in the RasPi is slow given the limited resources of the RasPi. Best Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 1:44 PM, PBK Research <peter(a)pbkresearch.co.uk>wrote: > I would like to experiment with Pharo on Android - I have just acquired > an Android tablet, and I do not want to learn another development language > to produce my own simple apps. After a Google search, I have found > http://code.google.com/p/squeakvm-tablet/, which says it is available, at > least as a beta. The site says that downloads from there are deprecated, > and gives a link to https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/job/PharoDroid/ for > the download. This link seems to be dead, however. Is there any source of a > download of Pharo for Android (on an ARM-designed processor)? And does it > make sense to try to develop apps using Pharo (I know about Dr Geo, so I > suppose the answer is yes)? > > Many thanks for help > > Peter Kenny >

Dec. 31, 2013