December 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Hi Sven, thanks for porting this and making it available. I will re-integrate your improvements in the VAST code if that's okay with you. Hey, and I am now (very indirectly) a Pharo contributor, how cool! ;-))) Joachim Am 08.12.13 23:49, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > On 08 Dec 2013, at 19:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> Next I will actually move your code to the instance side of QuotedPrintableMimeConverter, the class where we actually need it. I am sure I can take over your units tests as they are, which is good. > Done: > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4825/Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete > > RESOLVED > > Slice in 3.0 inbox: > > === > Name: SLICE-Issue-4825-Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete-SvenVanCaekenberghe.1 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 8 December 2013, 11:45:09.148454 pm > UUID: af015099-e48b-47f5-9553-840fca62d8e2 > Ancestors: > Dependencies: Network-MIME-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64, NetworkTests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.92 > > A completely new implementation of QuotedPrintableMimeConverter based on code contributed by Joachim Tuchel (thanks !) including a new set of unit tests. > > Note that the older code lacked the encoding part and had no tests at all. > === > > Sven -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Dec. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 08 Dec 2013, at 19:51, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Next I will actually move your code to the instance side of QuotedPrintableMimeConverter, the class where we actually need it. I am sure I can take over your units tests as they are, which is good. Done: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4825/Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete RESOLVED Slice in 3.0 inbox: === Name: SLICE-Issue-4825-Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete-SvenVanCaekenberghe.1 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 8 December 2013, 11:45:09.148454 pm UUID: af015099-e48b-47f5-9553-840fca62d8e2 Ancestors: Dependencies: Network-MIME-SvenVanCaekenberghe.64, NetworkTests-SvenVanCaekenberghe.92 A completely new implementation of QuotedPrintableMimeConverter based on code contributed by Joachim Tuchel (thanks !) including a new set of unit tests. Note that the older code lacked the encoding part and had no tests at all. === Sven

Dec. 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Joachim, On 08 Dec 2013, at 10:06, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > Hi Sven, > Sven, > > sorry for my late reply. On the weekends, I try to be away from Smalltalk. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I don't ;-) No problem! > So first of all, thanks for porting the code and even adding those nice comments. I like the way "my" code looks now ;-) The code was quite readable and clean to begin with ! > About the CRLF stuff: this is a complicated area, even if it looks so simple. As I mentioned, VAST is not yet Unicode aware, so it adapts itself to the current platform's line-end conversion. So what I did to build tests fast was just add line breaks in literals in the test code and let envy handle the rest. That is, of course, neither a nice coding convention, nor a perfect solution. I don't know much about Pharo's handling of line-end conventions of its host platform, so I cannot comment on the correct way to do this in Pharo. > > It is important in VAST to convert to the correct line-endings of the OS in VAST, and for this VAST provides some pool constants: CldtConstants::UNIXLineDelimiter and CldtConstants::WinLineDelimiter. As I understand it, you Pharo guys don't like Pool Dictionaries very deerly, so I guess there is another place to ask for this if needed. > > So in the end, I cannot really judge if your changes are correct. You'd have to test on both Win and Mac/Linux to see if your changes are correct. For me, String>>crlf sounds wrong, because it it always returns both cr and lf. If Pharo also uses the local line-end convention, this would be wrong in Unix/Mac. > > I hope this long version of "I have no idea" is helpful... ;-) > > Joachim Inside a Pharo image, CR is the line end on all platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux). Going to the outside world (files, sockets, clipboard), there are options for conversion or automatic conversion, or none at all. When reading lines, most code can handle all 3 conventions transparently. I modified the code to assume CR as Pharo platform standard line end convention when decoding, when encoding any line end convention works. I intend to make the actual line end convention a parameter, defaulting to CR. I added an error when the char code is > 255. I added/changed a couple of tests. Please have a look. Next I will actually move your code to the instance side of QuotedPrintableMimeConverter, the class where we actually need it. I am sure I can take over your units tests as they are, which is good. Sven > Am 06.12.13 20:18, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >> Hi Joachim, >> >> I loaded/copied your code into Pharo 3.0 and made the necessary changes, as well as some simplifications, to make everything work. See the attached fileouts. >> >> The tests were almost immediately green. >> >> I have one question though, I had to change two tests to make them work: >> >> #testDecodeCRLF >> >> self >> assert: (coder decode: 'This is the first line=0D=0A and this is the second') >> equals: 'This is the first line', String crlf, ' and this is the secondâ >> >> You originally had a simple line break in the methodâs string literal. But that results in a CR in Pharo. I added an explicit CRLF. >> >> I had to make similar changes to #testEncodeSoftLinebreak. >> >> Is that OK or not ? What do you think ? >> >> Sven >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: >> >>> Hi Joachim, >>> >>> The code is perfectly readable, including the German (which I can read/understand more or less, speaking/writing is quite bad though), thanks a lot. I will try to port it later today or this evening. >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:26, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Sven, >>>> >>>> I just see there will be some problems with the test Strings in Pharo. VAST is not Unicode aware yet, so the fileout of german umlauts and such will very likely be wrong when pasting into Pharo. >>>> I am happy to send you corrections for the decoded strings in the test code if your German doesn't suffice. Just tell me which sentences are imported wrong into Pharo... >>>> >>>> I have never tested any other special characters than German ones. >>>> >>>> Joachim >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 06.12.13 12:14, schrieb jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de: >>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>> >>>>> here you are. >>>>> It's possible you get into minor troubles parsing the files, but the code is short enough to even copy/paste it into Pharo I guess. Since it is a fileout from VAST, you may need to tweak the categories for monticello and such. >>>>> >>>>> Please let me know if there are problems with the code, if you add new tests or find bugs. I'd like to add stuff back to my code then. >>>>> >>>>> Good luck, >>>>> >>>>> Joachim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 06.12.13 12:06, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:04, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course I don't mind. I'll be happy if you find it useful enough to use it in Pharo. >>>>>> Great! >>>>>> >>>>>>> The .dat is VAST's proprietary export format for code. So you'd have to install VAST to get it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am not a Pharo contributor yet, so I will see if I can send you a fileout of the code that should beasier to import into Pharo. I know this is stupid, but I never worried about the license of such mini-contributions. So if you want, it's MIT ;-) >>>>>> Yes, please send some .st files. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:36, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>>>>>> Hi Joachim, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:22, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Sabine, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this is not of immediate help for you, but I once wrote a QuotedPrintableEncode for VA Smalltalk. It is in productive use and should handle both encoding and decoding just fine. >>>>>>>>> You can find it on vastgoodies.com and I am sure it is not hard to port to Pharo. >>>>>>>> So I guess you are OK with me looking at / porting your code ? Is it MIT licensed or compatible ? Are you already a signed up Pharo contributor ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How do you I get at the actual code ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When doing a download, I get a .dat file. How do I open that ? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> More details: http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/quotedprintablecoder-on-vastg… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:11, schrieb Sabine KnÃ¶fel: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> this would be great. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need it for sending mails and some mail reader, e.g. Thunderbird on Mac (Thank you Joachim for reporting this bug :-) ) need this in the subject if there are special signs in it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Example: >>>>>>>>>> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kindle_f=FCr_nur_49_EUR?= >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, indeed >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> QuotedPrintableMimeConverter>>#mimeEncode is missing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It shouldnât be too hard to implement, although it is a bit of a >>>>>>>>>> âhumanâ format rather than a technical one. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Iâll see what I can do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 09:35, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>>> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727919&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I need this, too. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Issue-4782-Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete-imple… >>>>>>>>>>> The bug was closed after transferring it to fogbugs: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4825 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, may I ask you, how did you solve this? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >>>>>>>>>> discussion below: >>>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email [hidden >>>>>>>>>> email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=1> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from (MimeConverter forEncoding: >>>>>>>>>> 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility, click here. >>>>>>>>>> NAML >>>>>>>>>> <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: Re: (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility <http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r…> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>>>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>>>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>> >>>> > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de > Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de > D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com > Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 > > -- Sven Van Caekenberghe Proudly supporting Pharo http://pharo.org http://association.pharo.org http://consortium.pharo.org

Dec. 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility

by jtuchel＠objektfabrik.de

Hi Sven, Sven, sorry for my late reply. On the weekends, I try to be away from Smalltalk. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I don't ;-) So first of all, thanks for porting the code and even adding those nice comments. I like the way "my" code looks now ;-) About the CRLF stuff: this is a complicated area, even if it looks so simple. As I mentioned, VAST is not yet Unicode aware, so it adapts itself to the current platform's line-end conversion. So what I did to build tests fast was just add line breaks in literals in the test code and let envy handle the rest. That is, of course, neither a nice coding convention, nor a perfect solution. I don't know much about Pharo's handling of line-end conventions of its host platform, so I cannot comment on the correct way to do this in Pharo. It is important in VAST to convert to the correct line-endings of the OS in VAST, and for this VAST provides some pool constants: CldtConstants::UNIXLineDelimiter and CldtConstants::WinLineDelimiter. As I understand it, you Pharo guys don't like Pool Dictionaries very deerly, so I guess there is another place to ask for this if needed. So in the end, I cannot really judge if your changes are correct. You'd have to test on both Win and Mac/Linux to see if your changes are correct. For me, String>>crlf sounds wrong, because it it always returns both cr and lf. If Pharo also uses the local line-end convention, this would be wrong in Unix/Mac. I hope this long version of "I have no idea" is helpful... ;-) Joachim Am 06.12.13 20:18, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > Hi Joachim, > > I loaded/copied your code into Pharo 3.0 and made the necessary changes, as well as some simplifications, to make everything work. See the attached fileouts. > > The tests were almost immediately green. > > I have one question though, I had to change two tests to make them work: > > #testDecodeCRLF > > self > assert: (coder decode: 'This is the first line=0D=0A and this is the second') > equals: 'This is the first line', String crlf, ' and this is the secondâ > > You originally had a simple line break in the methodâs string literal. But that results in a CR in Pharo. I added an explicit CRLF. > > I had to make similar changes to #testEncodeSoftLinebreak. > > Is that OK or not ? What do you think ? > > Sven > > > > > > > > On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > >> Hi Joachim, >> >> The code is perfectly readable, including the German (which I can read/understand more or less, speaking/writing is quite bad though), thanks a lot. I will try to port it later today or this evening. >> >> Sven >> >> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:26, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >> >>> Hi Sven, >>> >>> I just see there will be some problems with the test Strings in Pharo. VAST is not Unicode aware yet, so the fileout of german umlauts and such will very likely be wrong when pasting into Pharo. >>> I am happy to send you corrections for the decoded strings in the test code if your German doesn't suffice. Just tell me which sentences are imported wrong into Pharo... >>> >>> I have never tested any other special characters than German ones. >>> >>> Joachim >>> >>> >>> Am 06.12.13 12:14, schrieb jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de: >>>> Hi Sven, >>>> >>>> here you are. >>>> It's possible you get into minor troubles parsing the files, but the code is short enough to even copy/paste it into Pharo I guess. Since it is a fileout from VAST, you may need to tweak the categories for monticello and such. >>>> >>>> Please let me know if there are problems with the code, if you add new tests or find bugs. I'd like to add stuff back to my code then. >>>> >>>> Good luck, >>>> >>>> Joachim >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Am 06.12.13 12:06, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:04, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course I don't mind. I'll be happy if you find it useful enough to use it in Pharo. >>>>> Great! >>>>> >>>>>> The .dat is VAST's proprietary export format for code. So you'd have to install VAST to get it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not a Pharo contributor yet, so I will see if I can send you a fileout of the code that should beasier to import into Pharo. I know this is stupid, but I never worried about the license of such mini-contributions. So if you want, it's MIT ;-) >>>>> Yes, please send some .st files. >>>>> >>>>>> Joachim >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:36, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>>>>> Hi Joachim, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:22, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Sabine, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this is not of immediate help for you, but I once wrote a QuotedPrintableEncode for VA Smalltalk. It is in productive use and should handle both encoding and decoding just fine. >>>>>>>> You can find it on vastgoodies.com and I am sure it is not hard to port to Pharo. >>>>>>> So I guess you are OK with me looking at / porting your code ? Is it MIT licensed or compatible ? Are you already a signed up Pharo contributor ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you I get at the actual code ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When doing a download, I get a .dat file. How do I open that ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> More details: http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/quotedprintablecoder-on-vastg… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:11, schrieb Sabine KnÃ¶fel: >>>>>>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> this would be great. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I need it for sending mails and some mail reader, e.g. Thunderbird on Mac (Thank you Joachim for reporting this bug :-) ) need this in the subject if there are special signs in it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Example: >>>>>>>>> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kindle_f=FCr_nur_49_EUR?= >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yes, indeed >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> QuotedPrintableMimeConverter>>#mimeEncode is missing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It shouldnât be too hard to implement, although it is a bit of a >>>>>>>>> âhumanâ format rather than a technical one. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Iâll see what I can do. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 09:35, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email] >>>>>>>>> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727919&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I need this, too. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Issue-4782-Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete-imple… >>>>>>>>>> The bug was closed after transferring it to fogbugs: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4825 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sebastian, may I ask you, how did you solve this? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >>>>>>>>> discussion below: >>>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email [hidden >>>>>>>>> email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=1> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from (MimeConverter forEncoding: >>>>>>>>> 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility, click here. >>>>>>>>> NAML >>>>>>>>> <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: Re: (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility <http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r…> >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>> >>> -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1

Dec. 8, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

El 07/12/2013 5:31, ClÃ©ment Bera escribiÃ³: > Hello, answers inlined > > 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com > <mailto:hernan.morales@gmail.com>> > > Thanks Clement, got it. > > FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long > > > $ git checkout -f HEAD > error: unable to create file > mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance > /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. > mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla > g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) > Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. > > another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in > my home, so I just passed that point. > > This bug is specific to windows. On this page: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md > there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At > the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are > some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on > the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "/If you do this on > Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving > trouble"/ ).I guess this is what you need. Thanks ClÃ©ment. Yes, I followed that guide. Just wanted to inform where the error was raising :) Cheers, HernÃ¡n

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Dec 7, 2013, at 3:50 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > I have been looking at the code using Source Navigator NG and it is helpful. > > I am not afraid of C for sure. > > Who is in? I'm not afraid but not fluent so this is worse :) > > On Saturday, December 7, 2013, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > having a group of C (not afraid persons) cleaning the VM code and library would be really great. > > stef > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:01 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > >> Maybe can we do something about that on the 20th. >> >> Note: there were3 pull requests https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pulls?direction=desc&page=1&sort=… at the moment, I reviewed them and merged as they looked ok. (2 readme.md, one with Nicolai Windows fix). >> >> Phil >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> I would like to be a fly on your shoulder when you work on that? >> >> Stef >> >> On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) >>> (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) >>> >>> as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, like SoundPlugin :). >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, answers inlined >>>>> >>>>> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >>>>> Thanks Clement, got it. >>>>> >>>>> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >>>>> >>>>> $ git checkout -f HEAD >>>>> error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >>>>> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >>>>> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >>>>> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >>>>> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >>>>> >>>>> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. >>>>> >>>>> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble" ).I guess this is what you need. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ >>>> >>>> Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. >>> >>> :) >>> not talk ing about Klatt :) >>> >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > --- > Philippe Back > Dramatic Performance Improvements > Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 > Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu > Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback > Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos > > High Octane SPRL > rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium > > Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ > Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com > Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller > > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by phil＠highoctane.be

I have been looking at the code using Source Navigator NG and it is helpful. I am not afraid of C for sure. Who is in? On Saturday, December 7, 2013, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > having a group of C (not afraid persons) cleaning the VM code and library > would be really great. > > stef > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:01 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > 'phil(a)highoctane.be');> wrote: > > Maybe can we do something about that on the 20th. > > Note: there were3 pull requests > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pulls?direction=desc&page=1&sort=… the moment, I reviewed them and merged as they looked ok. (2 > readme.md, one with Nicolai Windows fix). > > Phil > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', > 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr');>> wrote: > >> I would like to be a fly on your shoulder when you work on that? >> >> Stef >> >> On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'estebanlm(a)gmail.com');>> >> wrote: >> >> just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) >> (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) >> >> as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the >> "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, >> like SoundPlugin :). >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < >> stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', >> 'stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr');>> wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello, answers inlined >>> >>> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'hernan.morales(a)gmail.com');> >>> > >>> >>>> Thanks Clement, got it. >>>> >>>> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >>>> >>> >>>> $ git checkout -f HEAD >>>> error: unable to create file >>>> mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >>>> >>>> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >>>> >>>> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >>>> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >>>> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >>>> >>>> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my >>>> home, so I just passed that point. >>>> >>>> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: >>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the >>> README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the >>> VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are >>> some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the >>> genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "*If you do this on >>> Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble"* >>> ).I guess this is what you need. >>> >>> >>> Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was >>> experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ >>> >>> Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. >>> >>> >>> :) >>> not talk ing about Klatt :) >>> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- --- Philippe Back Dramatic Performance Improvements Mob: +32(0) 478 650 140 | Fax: +32 (0) 70 408 027 Mail:phil@highoctane.be | Web: http://philippeback.eu Blog: http://philippeback.be | Twitter: @philippeback Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/user/philippeback/videos High Octane SPRL rue cour Boisacq 101 | 1301 Bierges | Belgium Pharo Consortium Member - http://consortium.pharo.org/ Featured on the Software Process and Measurement Cast - http://spamcast.libsyn.com Sparx Systems Enterprise Architect and Ability Engineering EADocX Value Added Reseller

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

having a group of C (not afraid persons) cleaning the VM code and library would be really great. stef On Dec 7, 2013, at 2:01 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > Maybe can we do something about that on the 20th. > > Note: there were3 pull requests https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pulls?direction=desc&page=1&sort=… at the moment, I reviewed them and merged as they looked ok. (2 readme.md, one with Nicolai Windows fix). > > Phil > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would like to be a fly on your shoulder when you work on that? > > Stef > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) >> (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) >> >> as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, like SoundPlugin :). >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, answers inlined >>>> >>>> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >>>> Thanks Clement, got it. >>>> >>>> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >>>> >>>> $ git checkout -f HEAD >>>> error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >>>> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >>>> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >>>> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >>>> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >>>> >>>> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. >>>> >>>> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble" ).I guess this is what you need. >>>> >>> >>> Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ >>> >>> Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. >> >> :) >> not talk ing about Klatt :) >> >>> >>> Marcus >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by phil＠highoctane.be

Maybe can we do something about that on the 20th. Note: there were3 pull requests https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm/pulls?direction=desc&page=1&sort=… the moment, I reviewed them and merged as they looked ok. (2 readme.md, one with Nicolai Windows fix). Phil On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 12:23 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > I would like to be a fly on your shoulder when you work on that? > > Stef > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) > (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) > > as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the > "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, > like SoundPlugin :). > > Esteban > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> >> Hello, answers inlined >> >> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Thanks Clement, got it. >>> >>> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >>> >> >>> $ git checkout -f HEAD >>> error: unable to create file >>> mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >>> >>> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >>> >>> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >>> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >>> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >>> >>> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my >>> home, so I just passed that point. >>> >>> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md >> there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the >> bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra >> informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie >> plugin. (the paragraph starts with "*If you do this on Windows/Msys, >> you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble"* ).I guess >> this is what you need. >> >> >> Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was >> experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ >> >> Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. >> >> >> :) >> not talk ing about Klatt :) >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I would like to be a fly on your shoulder when you work on that? Stef On Dec 7, 2013, at 9:53 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) > (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) > > as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, like SoundPlugin :). > > Esteban > > > On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> >>> Hello, answers inlined >>> >>> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >>> Thanks Clement, got it. >>> >>> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >>> >>> $ git checkout -f HEAD >>> error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >>> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >>> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >>> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >>> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >>> >>> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. >>> >>> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble" ).I guess this is what you need. >>> >> >> Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ >> >> Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. > > :) > not talk ing about Klatt :) > >> >> Marcus >> > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by Esteban Lorenzano

just because I didn't had the time of removing them from builds :) (sometimes is not so easy, as you know) as soon as I have some time to work on the vm I will remove the "undesirable" plugins (while working on the ones that we actually need, like SoundPlugin :). Esteban On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > Hello, answers inlined > > 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > >> Thanks Clement, got it. >> >> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >> > >> $ git checkout -f HEAD >> error: unable to create file >> mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >> >> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >> >> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >> >> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my >> home, so I just passed that point. >> >> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md > there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the > bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra > informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie > plugin. (the paragraph starts with "*If you do this on Windows/Msys, > you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble"* ).I guess > this is what you need. > > > Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was > experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ > > Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. > > > :) > not talk ing about Klatt :) > > > Marcus > > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> >> Hello, answers inlined >> >> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >> Thanks Clement, got it. >> >> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >> >> $ git checkout -f HEAD >> error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >> >> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. >> >> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble" ).I guess this is what you need. >> > > Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ > > Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. :) not talk ing about Klatt :) > > Marcus >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by ClÃ©ment Bera

I have no clue Marcus why it is still there. Probably removing it had some side effect in rare cases so it is still there or no one has ever tried to remove it. 2013/12/7 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 07 Dec 2013, at 09:32, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello, answers inlined > > 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > >> Thanks Clement, got it. >> >> FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long >> > >> $ git checkout -f HEAD >> error: unable to create file >> mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance >> >> /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. >> >> mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla >> g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) >> Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. >> >> another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my >> home, so I just passed that point. >> >> This bug is specific to windows. On this page: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md > there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the > bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra > informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie > plugin. (the paragraph starts with "*If you do this on Windows/Msys, > you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble"* ).I guess > this is what you need. > > > Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was > experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ > > Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. > > Marcus > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by Marcus Denker

On 07 Dec 2013, at 09:32, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, answers inlined > > 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > Thanks Clement, got it. > > FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long > > $ git checkout -f HEAD > error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance > /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. > mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla > g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) > Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. > > another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. > > This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble" ).I guess this is what you need. > Why is the GeniePlugin still part of the VM? Nobody uses it, it was experiment, discontinued years ago, they author works at google since 2005â¦ Someone I wonder if we want to maintain a museum or invent the future. Marcus

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, answers inlined 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > Thanks Clement, got it. > > FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long > > $ git checkout -f HEAD > error: unable to create file > mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance > > /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. > > mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla > g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) > Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. > > another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my > home, so I just passed that point. > > This bug is specific to windows. On this page: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm , if you look at the README.md there are information on how to build and get the sources of the VM. At the bottom, there is a paragraph entitled windows specific. Here are some extra informations for windows, among them, this bug you showed on the genie plugin. (the paragraph starts with "*If you do this on Windows/Msys, you'll get a message about the GeniePlugin giving trouble"* ).I guess this is what you need. > HernÃ¡n > > > > > 2013/12/6 ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > >> Hello. >> >> Can you try to git clone this repo: >> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm >> and then in the folder named 'image', there's a script named newImage.sh. >> Run it, it should get you an image named generator.image with Pharo 2 + Cog. >> >> Anyway it's a bug ... >> >> >> >> 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> >> >>> When I try to install Cog (GuillermoPolito.127) from the Configuration >>> Browser in a clean Pharo 2.0 (Windows 7 x64), fails with the following >>> message: >>> >>> "The symbolic version #stable is not defined in ConfigurationOfCog for >>> the current platform." >>> >>> I download the image + vm with the following command: >>> >>> $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash >>> >>> Any workaround? >>> >>> HernÃ¡n >>> >>> >> >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Programmatic Scoped Browsing

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Sorry for the late reply. May anyone can drop a line for how to contribute (not bug reporting/patch) to projects like RB and Nautilus? Because there are 3 Nautilus repositories in SmalltalkHub... HernÃ¡n 2013/11/24 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > > On Nov 24, 2013, at 5:55 PM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < > hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Sean, > > > > I do this for browsing BioSmalltalk classes with Nautilus > > > > | pkgs env | > > > > pkgs := RPackageOrganizer default packages select: [ :each | each > packageName beginsWith: 'Bio' ]. > > env := RBBrowserEnvironment new forPackages: pkgs. > > env label: 'BioSmalltalk'. > > Nautilus openInEnvironment: env > > feel free to add an helper method in RBBrowserEnvironment > > Stef > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > HernÃ¡n > > > > El 24/11/2013 13:30, Sean P. DeNigris escribiÃ³: > >> I tried: > >> SystemNavigation new > >> environment: RPackage allInstances third asEnvironment; > >> browseAllSelect: aBlock > >> > >> but it still searched the whole image. I looked for examples in the > image of > >> manually building an environment/SystemDictionary, but didn't find > anything > >> helpful. > >> > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> Cheers, > >> Sean > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Programmatic-Scoped-Browsing-tp4724820.html > >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > >> > > > > > > >

Dec. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

Thanks Clement, got it. FYI doing the checkout leads to a filename too long $ git checkout -f HEAD error: unable to create file mc/VMMaker-oscog.package/GeniePlugin.class/instance /primSameClassAbsoluteStrokeDistanceMyPoints.otherPoints.myVectors.otherVectors. mySquaredLengths.otherSquaredLengths.myAngles.otherAngles.maxSizeAndReferenceFla g.rowBase.rowInsertRemove.rowInsertRemoveCount..st (Filename too long) Checking out files: 100% (17530/17530), done. another detail, I use MSYS shell and I don't have a .profile file in my home, so I just passed that point. HernÃ¡n 2013/12/6 ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> > Hello. > > Can you try to git clone this repo: > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm > and then in the folder named 'image', there's a script named newImage.sh. > Run it, it should get you an image named generator.image with Pharo 2 + Cog. > > Anyway it's a bug ... > > > > 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > >> When I try to install Cog (GuillermoPolito.127) from the Configuration >> Browser in a clean Pharo 2.0 (Windows 7 x64), fails with the following >> message: >> >> "The symbolic version #stable is not defined in ConfigurationOfCog for >> the current platform." >> >> I download the image + vm with the following command: >> >> $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash >> >> Any workaround? >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> >

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Loading Cog fails under Windows

by ClÃ©ment BÃ©ra

Hello. Can you try to git clone this repo: https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm and then in the folder named 'image', there's a script named newImage.sh. Run it, it should get you an image named generator.image with Pharo 2 + Cog. Anyway it's a bug ... 2013/12/6 HernÃ¡n Morales Durand <hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> > When I try to install Cog (GuillermoPolito.127) from the Configuration > Browser in a clean Pharo 2.0 (Windows 7 x64), fails with the following > message: > > "The symbolic version #stable is not defined in ConfigurationOfCog for the > current platform." > > I download the image + vm with the following command: > > $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash > > Any workaround? > > HernÃ¡n > >

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] reopen closed issues (4798)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks nicolai We just received your license agreement :) tx again. Stef On Dec 6, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > 2013/12/6 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 06 Dec 2013, at 13:55, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> if an issue is closed without any comment, what could be the reason? >> (This one https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?4798) >> >> Would someone note if I comment on closed issues or are they filtered out? > > To me this one looks like a mistake when importing the issues from the old tracker. > > Other reasons (but then it is often documented) > > -> someone tried to reproduce and could not (e.g. misunderstanding) > -> the issue was open for a looong time and nobody cared (we do that less these days) > > >> Can I /or should I reopen issues if they are reproducible. >> > > Yes! > > Marcus > > > > > Oh well, it turns out this issue isn't the same I had. And it seems this issue (4798) > is fixed or not reproducable. > > I'll open a new one. > > >

Dec. 6, 2013

Loading Cog fails under Windows

by HernÃ¡n Morales Durand

When I try to install Cog (GuillermoPolito.127) from the Configuration Browser in a clean Pharo 2.0 (Windows 7 x64), fails with the following message: "The symbolic version #stable is not defined in ConfigurationOfCog for the current platform." I download the image + vm with the following command: $ wget -O- get.pharo.org/20+vm | bash Any workaround? HernÃ¡n

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Joachim, I loaded/copied your code into Pharo 3.0 and made the necessary changes, as well as some simplifications, to make everything work. See the attached fileouts. The tests were almost immediately green. I have one question though, I had to change two tests to make them work: #testDecodeCRLF self assert: (coder decode: 'This is the first line=0D=0A and this is the second') equals: 'This is the first line', String crlf, ' and this is the secondâ You originally had a simple line break in the methodâs string literal. But that results in a CR in Pharo. I added an explicit CRLF. I had to make similar changes to #testEncodeSoftLinebreak. Is that OK or not ? What do you think ? Sven On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:52, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> wrote: > Hi Joachim, > > The code is perfectly readable, including the German (which I can read/understand more or less, speaking/writing is quite bad though), thanks a lot. I will try to port it later today or this evening. > > Sven > > On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:26, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: > >> Hi Sven, >> >> I just see there will be some problems with the test Strings in Pharo. VAST is not Unicode aware yet, so the fileout of german umlauts and such will very likely be wrong when pasting into Pharo. >> I am happy to send you corrections for the decoded strings in the test code if your German doesn't suffice. Just tell me which sentences are imported wrong into Pharo... >> >> I have never tested any other special characters than German ones. >> >> Joachim >> >> >> Am 06.12.13 12:14, schrieb jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de: >>> Hi Sven, >>> >>> here you are. >>> It's possible you get into minor troubles parsing the files, but the code is short enough to even copy/paste it into Pharo I guess. Since it is a fileout from VAST, you may need to tweak the categories for monticello and such. >>> >>> Please let me know if there are problems with the code, if you add new tests or find bugs. I'd like to add stuff back to my code then. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> Joachim >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 06.12.13 12:06, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 12:04, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>> >>>>> Of course I don't mind. I'll be happy if you find it useful enough to use it in Pharo. >>>> Great! >>>> >>>>> The .dat is VAST's proprietary export format for code. So you'd have to install VAST to get it. >>>>> >>>>> I am not a Pharo contributor yet, so I will see if I can send you a fileout of the code that should beasier to import into Pharo. I know this is stupid, but I never worried about the license of such mini-contributions. So if you want, it's MIT ;-) >>>> Yes, please send some .st files. >>>> >>>>> Joachim >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:36, schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: >>>>>> Hi Joachim, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 11:22, jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Sabine, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> this is not of immediate help for you, but I once wrote a QuotedPrintableEncode for VA Smalltalk. It is in productive use and should handle both encoding and decoding just fine. >>>>>>> You can find it on vastgoodies.com and I am sure it is not hard to port to Pharo. >>>>>> So I guess you are OK with me looking at / porting your code ? Is it MIT licensed or compatible ? Are you already a signed up Pharo contributor ? >>>>>> >>>>>> How do you I get at the actual code ? >>>>>> >>>>>> When doing a download, I get a .dat file. How do I open that ? >>>>>> >>>>>> Sven >>>>>> >>>>>>> More details: http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com/2011/09/23/quotedprintablecoder-on-vastg… >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joachim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Am 06.12.13 11:11, schrieb Sabine KnÃ¶fel: >>>>>>>> Hi Sven, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> this would be great. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I need it for sending mails and some mail reader, e.g. Thunderbird on Mac (Thank you Joachim for reporting this bug :-) ) need this in the subject if there are special signs in it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Example: >>>>>>>> Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kindle_f=FCr_nur_49_EUR?= >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes, indeed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> QuotedPrintableMimeConverter>>#mimeEncode is missing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It shouldnât be too hard to implement, although it is a bit of a >>>>>>>> âhumanâ format rather than a technical one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quoted-printable >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Iâll see what I can do. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sven >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06 Dec 2013, at 09:35, Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email] >>>>>>>> <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727919&i=0>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I need this, too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/Issue-4782-Quoted-printable-encoding-incomplete-imple… >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The bug was closed after transferring it to fogbugs: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/4825 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sebastian, may I ask you, how did you solve this? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>>> Sabine >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: >>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at >>>>>>>> Nabble.com. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the >>>>>>>> discussion below: >>>>>>>> http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r… >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email [hidden >>>>>>>> email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727928&i=1> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from (MimeConverter forEncoding: >>>>>>>> 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility, click here. >>>>>>>> NAML >>>>>>>> <http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> View this message in context: Re: (MimeConverter forEncoding: 'quoted-printable') subclass responsibility <http://forum.world.st/MimeConverter-forEncoding-quoted-printable-subclass-r…> >>>>>>>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive <http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html> at Nabble.com. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >>>>> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >>>>> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >>>>> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Objektfabrik Joachim Tuchel mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de >> Fliederweg 1 http://www.objektfabrik.de >> D-71640 Ludwigsburg http://joachimtuchel.wordpress.com >> Telefon: +49 7141 56 10 86 0 Fax: +49 7141 56 10 86 1 >> >> >

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] command line command from pharo image

by Sabine KnÃ¶fel

Nicolai, thank you very much for clarification. Indeed: there was a silly error in my command when copying it from Mac to windows (path) and the notepad test worked. So the problem is solved for me. I can call from Mac OS and from Windows and I am happy:-) Regards Sabine On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Nicolai Hess [via Smalltalk] < ml-node+s1294792n4727984h99(a)n4.nabble.com> wrote: > 2013/12/6 Sabine KnÃ¶fel <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4727984&i=0> > > > >> Hi Torsten, Sean, >> >> http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~OS/OS-Windows >> looks great. >> >> I have not found a solution yet to send a call to OS from pharo (I develop >> with mac since a few weeks now and deployment is currently windows) and I >> am >> thinking about moving to Pharo 3.0 for further development due to the OS >> call problem. >> >> Do you think, Pharo 3.0 is ready to use it for development or should I >> wait >> and look for another solution? >> >> Regards >> Sabine >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/command-line-command-from-pharo-image-tp4727751p47279… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > Hi, > > Pharo2 doesn't work for you? > I tried both Pharo2 and 3. > > In > Pharo2.0 > Latest update: #20593 > with latest stable OSProcess loaded form ConfigurationManager > I can execute > OSProcess command:'notepad.exe' > > without problems. > > But only as long as the command can be found otherwise > ExternalWindowsOSProcess tries to write > that error message to ExternalWindowsOSProcess>>initialStdErr. > And this does not work. (And it doesn't work in Pharo3) > (bug StdErr not working on Windows > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?11615) > > > > > ------------------------------ > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > > http://forum.world.st/command-line-command-from-pharo-image-tp4727751p47279… > To start a new topic under Pharo Smalltalk Users, email > ml-node+s1294792n1310670h65(a)n4.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from command line command from pharo image, click here<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=unsubscribe_by_code&no…> > . > NAML<http://forum.world.st/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=macro_viewer&id=instan…> > -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/command-line-command-from-pharo-image-tp4727751p47280… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Does there exist a template library for Pharo

by Esteban A. Maringolo

Norbert Hartl implemented Mustache templating for Pharo: http://norbert.hartl.name/blog/2013/10/03/mustache-templates-for-smalltalk/ 'This is some letter you ({{ name }}) can sign here to {{ whatever }}' asMustacheTemplate value: { 'name' -> 'Friedrich'. 'whatever' -> [ self printwhateverShouldBePrintedHere ] } asDictionary Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo 2013/12/6 Friedrich Dominicus <frido(a)q-software-solutions.de>: > I wonder if something like embedding Smalltalk in other texts > is somwhere to be foudn for Pharo e.g > > "This is some letter > you (<% self name %>) can sign here > to <% self printwhateverShouldBePrintedHere %>" > > So embedding Smalltallk into documents with add "dynamic" content > > I'm not looking in something like the HTMl stuff generated from > Smalltalk but a text fiel in which there are areas in which one can > execute and/or print information from Smalltalk.. > > Thanks for any hint > > Regards > Friedrich >

Dec. 6, 2013

Does there exist a template library for Pharo

by Friedrich Dominicus

I wonder if something like embedding Smalltalk in other texts is somwhere to be foudn for Pharo e.g "This is some letter you (<% self name %>) can sign here to <% self printwhateverShouldBePrintedHere %>" So embedding Smalltallk into documents with add "dynamic" content I'm not looking in something like the HTMl stuff generated from Smalltalk but a text fiel in which there are areas in which one can execute and/or print information from Smalltalk.. Thanks for any hint Regards Friedrich

Dec. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] reopen closed issues (4798)

by Nicolai Hess

2013/12/6 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 06 Dec 2013, at 13:55, Nicolai Hess <nicolaihess(a)web.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > if an issue is closed without any comment, what could be the reason? > (This one https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?4798) > > Would someone note if I comment on closed issues or are they filtered out? > > > To me this one looks like a mistake when importing the issues from the old > tracker. > > Other reasons (but then it is often documented) > > -> someone tried to reproduce and could not (e.g. misunderstanding) > -> the issue was open for a looong time and nobody cared (we do that less > these days) > > > Can I /or should I reopen issues if they are reproducible. > > > > Yes! > > Marcus > > > Oh well, it turns out this issue isn't the same I had. And it seems this issue (4798) is fixed or not reproducable. I'll open a new one.

Dec. 6, 2013