November 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 09.11.2013 um 12:21 schrieb StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>: > > Indeed. > I see > and I did not got the time to fix the issue I saw when applying on private projects. > >> Agreed. But, the ConfigurationOfPetitParser is up to date. It has groups to distinguish between between core and gui. >> >> The only problem that Norbert raised is that when using Snapshotcello, the groups are lost due to flattening of the entire configuration. >> Which makes it unusable for me. Or at least I didn't figure out a way how to circumvent this behaviour. Norbert >> Doru >> >> >>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 2:12 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> Guys >>> >>> even if one day we may integrate petitparser (so far I do not see why - but do not comment). We need an up to date configuration >>> because we want everything with configuration because we want to bootstrap 4.0. >>> >>> Stef >> >> >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "Every thing has its own flow" >

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Johan Fabry

For double completeness ;-) The one-click download Pharo3.0-mac.zip has the same problem. The included source file is in the wrong directory. It should be moved out of Contents/Resources and moved into Contents/MacOS. Then the one-click also runs. On Nov 9, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 2013-11-09, at 14:29, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2013-11-09, at 14:17, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 2013-11-09, at 14:00, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>>> On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>>> Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) >>>>>> >>>>> do you have a .sources file? >>>> >>>> probably that, since the lookup logic changed the other day. I will try without the .sources >>> >>> Confirmed, if I open the image without sources it hangs (strangely enough not even with stderr output) >>> Saving the image with sources and then opening it again without sources works, producing a proper warning >> >> https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12129/FileLocator-is-not-initialized-at-t… > > Confirmed from my end: putting a PharoV20.sources in the same directory as the VM (Pharo.app) solved the problem. Note that putting it in the same directory as the image does NOT solve the problem. I don't know what the expected behavior is anymore, so I am just reporting both behaviors here. > > Thanks for looking into this! > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- > > Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry > PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile > > > ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Johan Fabry

On Nov 9, 2013, at 10:52 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 2013-11-09, at 14:29, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 2013-11-09, at 14:17, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 2013-11-09, at 14:00, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>>> On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>>> Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) >>>>> >>>> do you have a .sources file? >>> >>> probably that, since the lookup logic changed the other day. I will try without the .sources >> >> Confirmed, if I open the image without sources it hangs (strangely enough not even with stderr output) >> Saving the image with sources and then opening it again without sources works, producing a proper warning > > https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12129/FileLocator-is-not-initialized-at-t… Confirmed from my end: putting a PharoV20.sources in the same directory as the VM (Pharo.app) solved the problem. Note that putting it in the same directory as the image does NOT solve the problem. I don't know what the expected behavior is anymore, so I am just reporting both behaviors here. Thanks for looking into this! ---> Save our in-boxes! http://emailcharter.org <--- Johan Fabry - http://pleiad.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Hi! It's already there. You can check it at: - MCHttpRepository location: 'http://ss3.gemstone.com/ss/Specalc' user: 'nachoba' password: '' *Best regards* *Nacho* On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 9:46 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > Ignacio > > Could you sketch a draft of a step by step tutorial? > Like that I can do a pass after and turn it into a gutenberg chapter? > You can use plain txt on git or I can also add you to the > PharoForTheEntreprise git repo. > > Stef > > > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:37 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho@ > gmail.com> wrote: > > Sure! That was exactly the idea: share this as a kind of tutorial for > others. I put comments almost everywhere just for those who want to take a > look at the code. Once it's finished I will uploaded. > cheers > Nacho > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse < > stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > >> I would love if we could get the code and if you would be interested to >> write a little tutorial >> around spec using your calculator. >> Why? Because we need help to write documentation and others :) >> Are you interested? >> >> Stef >> >> On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho@ >> gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Thank you so much! >> That did it :) >> >> It's almost done now. >> cheers >> N. >> >> >> >> *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA * >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin < >> Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> You just need to override the method #initialExtent >>> >>> It should return a point structured like this: width@height >>> >>> :) >>> >>> Ben >>> >>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really >>> basic >>> calculator. >>> So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble >>> at >>> getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the >>> window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec >>> It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. >>> The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what >>> I >>> would like to get. >>> I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change >>> the >>> size of the window. >>> I'm kind of stuck! >>> >>> thanks >>> cheers >>> Nacho >>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Nacho >>> Smalltalker apprentice. >>> Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com<http://nabble.com/> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-11-09, at 14:29, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2013-11-09, at 14:17, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 2013-11-09, at 14:00, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >>> On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>>> Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) >>>> >>> do you have a .sources file? >> >> probably that, since the lookup logic changed the other day. I will try without the .sources > > Confirmed, if I open the image without sources it hangs (strangely enough not even with stderr output) > Saving the image with sources and then opening it again without sources works, producing a proper warning https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12129/FileLocator-is-not-initialized-at-t…

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Luc proposed a pull request on github > - got validated by travis > - I integrated it into the master branch > - I pushed the changes to the develop branch > > so the vmLatest should include the fixes I like the process and that esteban releases some steam :) Stef > > On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> Esteban >> >> we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we >> should distribute and share load. >> >> Stef >> >> On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> it is "stable" but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. >>> So many things to do when I come back... :) >>> >>> Esteban >>> >>> >>> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Luc, >>>> >>>> Smalltalk vm version reports: >>>> >>>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>>> ' >>>> >>>> It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in pharo-project.org >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bernat. >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>>> Hi Bernat, >>>> >>>> Which VM version? >>>> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. >>>> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >>>> but I have not tried. >>>> >>>> yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. >>>> >>>> >>>> do you use the right protName? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Luc >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... >>>> >>>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >>>> >>>> PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed >>>> >>>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Bernat. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >> > >

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-11-09, at 14:17, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 2013-11-09, at 14:00, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: >> On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: >>> Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) >>> >> do you have a .sources file? > > probably that, since the lookup logic changed the other day. I will try without the .sources Confirmed, if I open the image without sources it hangs (strangely enough not even with stderr output) Saving the image with sources and then opening it again without sources works, producing a proper warning

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Camillo Bruni

Luc proposed a pull request on github - got validated by travis - I integrated it into the master branch - I pushed the changes to the develop branch so the vmLatest should include the fixes On 2013-11-09, at 13:56, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Esteban > > we should organize some sessions where you show to people what you are doing and see how we > should distribute and share load. > > Stef > > On Nov 9, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> it is "stable" but AFAIK it does not includes the latest fix for SerialPlugin. >> So many things to do when I come back... :) >> >> Esteban >> >> >> On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Luc, >>> >>> Smalltalk vm version reports: >>> >>> 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 >>> git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 >>> ' >>> >>> It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in pharo-project.org >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bernat. >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> >>> Hi Bernat, >>> >>> Which VM version? >>> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. >>> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >>> but I have not tried. >>> >>> yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. >>> >>> >>> do you use the right protName? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Luc >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... >>> >>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >>> >>> PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed >>> >>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bernat. >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >> >

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Camillo Bruni

On 2013-11-09, at 14:00, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > >> >> Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) >> > do you have a .sources file? probably that, since the lookup logic changed the other day. I will try without the .sources

Nov. 9, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Current 3.0 download is broken

by Marcus Denker

On 09 Nov 2013, at 13:55, Johan Fabry <jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl> wrote: > > Nope, I just unzip the new image and double click it. (+ I never defined any startup script anywhere) > do you have a .sources file?

Nov. 9, 2013