November 2013 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Mark Bestley <news{(a)bestley.co.uk> wrote: > This is due to Gatekeeper I think. I managed to open it by choosing Open > in the right click menu in Finder. see > <http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5290> I think you need to sign the app thank you for the reference. I will have a look. I wanted to put the application on the Mac App Store, but it looks I would have to pay Apple and I don't want to. Hope your solution doesn't require that. > The Launcher looks for and save images in ~/Library/Preferences/Pharo > This is wrong it should be ~/Library/Application/Support/Pharo for > general use, there is a case for using ~/Library/Containers to fit in > with Apple's sandboxing. I wanted to do that already. Thanks for the directory names. Do you have an url where Apple discusses such directories? > Or better allow us to chnage the directory That's on my todo. As always, I need help. This is the kind of change people can do easily (the preference mechanism is already in place). So, if you want to hack on the launcher, this would be a good start. > The icons are odd, trying to get a new Pharo 3 image it says hit refresh > icon which took me some time to find. Although I am bad at all icons so > might just be me. It's not just you. I see 2 solutions: - have a menu item to refresh when right clicking on the "hit refresh button" message. - automatically download the content when expanding the tree. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Nov. 7, 2013

Why won't my Pharo download run?

by PBK Research

Hello! I have a problem with running Pharo 2.0 on one of my machines. I have two machines, both running Windows XP with SP3. On one of them I have a successful load of Pharo (actually it's a distribution of the Moose system, but that is just an application built on Pharo 2.0). This loads successfully when I double click on pharo.exe. On the other machine, the same action produces an immediate message: 'Pharo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close'. Just in case this was some problem with Moose, I have just downloaded the latest one-click installation of Pharo 2.0 for Windows. This displays exactly the same behaviour - an immediate fail when I try to start it. I have tried to work out what may be different between the two machines. The one which will run Pharo has an Intel Celeron processor, the other an AMD Athlon XP (yes, they are both pretty ancient!), but I can't see why that should make any difference. The one curious thing is that Windows Explorer displays the type of the Pharo2.0.image file as 'Squeak image file'. There is an old version of Squeak installed on that machine; could that have any effect? I am a bit flummoxed by all this. Does anyone have any suggestions about how to diagnose the problem? Many thanks Peter Kenny

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Nested Layouts

by Benjamin

Just a general remark: you should try as much as possible to avoid hard coding width/height :) there are some methods on ComposableModel you could use like buttonHeight toolbarHeight etc. that you should use instead :) Ben On 07 Nov 2013, at 13:22, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/07/2013 12:45, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I don't know what you want exactly. >> >> You can do: >> >> spec >> <spec> >> ^ SpecLayout composed >> newRow: [:row | >> row >> newColumn: [ :col | >> col >> add: #list width: 135; >> add: #description ] ]; >> yourself >> >> and nest that as many times as you want (but I don't know if this was your question). > > I just tried this one and it works (see the code below) BUT, the code is so hard to read and understand just for 3 rows and 7 widgets! > > <code> > defaultSpec > ^ SpecLayout composed > newColumn: [ :mainColumn | > mainColumn > newRow: [ :nameRow | > nameRow > add: #labelName; > add: #textName ] > height: 25. > mainColumn > newRow: [ :titleRow | > titleRow > add: #labelTitle; > newRow: [ :titleRadioRow | > titleRadioRow > add: #radioMr; > add: #radioMrs; > add: #radioMs ] ] > height: 25. > mainColumn newRow: [ :buttonRow | buttonRow add: #buttonGreet ] height: 25 ]; > yourself > </code> > > Am I doing it right? > >> >> Another feature is: >> >> debuggerSpec >> <spec: #default> >> ^ SpecLayout composed >> add: #inspector withSpec: #debuggerSpec; >> yourself >> >> #inspector being the instance variable name that holds a subclass of ComposableModel that defines class side #debuggerSpec, which answers a SpecLayout. >> > > Does this mean that for every table cell I have to create a new class? > >> Not sure if this helped. >> >> All of these questions are for your tutorials ? >> >> >> >> >> 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> >> Hi all, >> >> Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine >> `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? >> >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Nested Layouts

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/07/2013 12:45, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > Hey, > > I don't know what you want exactly. > > You can do: > > spec > <spec> > ^ SpecLayout composed > newRow: [:row | > row > newColumn: [ :col | > col > add: #list width: 135; > add: #description ] ]; > yourself > > and nest that as many times as you want (but I don't know if this was > your question). I just tried this one and it works (see the code below) BUT, the code is so hard to read and understand just for 3 rows and 7 widgets! <code> defaultSpec ^ SpecLayout composed newColumn: [ :mainColumn | mainColumn newRow: [ :nameRow | nameRow add: #labelName; add: #textName ] height: 25. mainColumn newRow: [ :titleRow | titleRow add: #labelTitle; newRow: [ :titleRadioRow | titleRadioRow add: #radioMr; add: #radioMrs; add: #radioMs ] ] height: 25. mainColumn newRow: [ :buttonRow | buttonRow add: #buttonGreet ] height: 25 ]; yourself </code> Am I doing it right? > > Another feature is: > > debuggerSpec > <spec: #default> > ^ SpecLayout composed > add: #inspector withSpec: #debuggerSpec; > yourself > > #inspector being the instance variable name that holds a subclass of > ComposableModel that defines class side #debuggerSpec, which answers a > SpecLayout. > Does this mean that for every table cell I have to create a new class? > Not sure if this helped. > > All of these questions are for your tutorials ? > > > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> > > Hi all, > > Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine > `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? > > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 07.11.2013 um 12:12 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Hi, > > I think you missed my point. I know I can technically load the code from multiple places :). > I know you know. I couldn't miss the point because for me there is none :) > For Moose, PetitParser is an important component that is being developed by the team. Up to now, we did that, hence it made perfect sense to have it in the Moose team repository and in our responsibility. > Agreed. I have just a different view. I'm using petit parser since 2 1/2 years and to me it never made any sense moving it into moose :) > Moving is no problem, as long as we ensure that others actually do something, and that the development does not go in strange directions (which I agree it is unlikely). As I said, it would be great to see PetitParser in the Pharo image and be used by Opal. Ok, no need to argue. Nothing is carved in stone. I just like to say that I would prefer petit parser breaking loose from moose. Norbert > > > >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >> >>> Am 07.11.2013 um 11:46 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> It is in the Moose repository because Moose was essentially the first larger user (besides Helvetia) since its inception (more than 3 years now), and because the development of PetitParser was taken care of by the Moose team. >> Being a user of a software is not a good reason to tie it to it. Ask Stef ;) It is nice if the moose team took (and takes) care for it. But you can take care in another repository as well. I think petit parser is an important and standalone package that has nothing to do with moose. Putting this inside another project just weakens the included project. >> >>> If others want to contribute (and even integrate into Pharo), it would be great and then we should move it. But, moving should come with commitment. This is an important piece in Moose and we need it to stay working and compatible with Moose requirements. >> That is what metacello is for. Refer to the versions you need and you are off the races. As you are one of those who maintains it you are even in the position to _not_ integrate every other change. So if the write restriction to petit parser (being in the moose repo) is the solution we should talk. >> >> Norbert >> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>>> >>>> Am 07.11.2013 um 11:07 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: >>>> >>>> > The official repository of PetitParser is >>>> > Moose/PetitParser >>>> > on smalltalkhub >>>> > >>>> thanks. >>>> >>>> > http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html >>>> > >>>> Well, this is not a good place IMHO. A more independent but official repo would be nice. >>>> >>>> Norbert >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "Every thing has its own flow" > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Tudor Girba

Hi, I think you missed my point. I know I can technically load the code from multiple places :). For Moose, PetitParser is an important component that is being developed by the team. Up to now, we did that, hence it made perfect sense to have it in the Moose team repository and in our responsibility. Moving is no problem, as long as we ensure that others actually do something, and that the development does not go in strange directions (which I agree it is unlikely). As I said, it would be great to see PetitParser in the Pharo image and be used by Opal. Cheers, Doru On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 07.11.2013 um 11:46 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > > Hi, > > It is in the Moose repository because Moose was essentially the first > larger user (besides Helvetia) since its inception (more than 3 years now), > and because the development of PetitParser was taken care of by the Moose > team. > > Being a user of a software is not a good reason to tie it to it. Ask Stef > ;) It is nice if the moose team took (and takes) care for it. But you can > take care in another repository as well. I think petit parser is an > important and standalone package that has nothing to do with moose. Putting > this inside another project just weakens the included project. > > If others want to contribute (and even integrate into Pharo), it would be > great and then we should move it. But, moving should come with commitment. > This is an important piece in Moose and we need it to stay working and > compatible with Moose requirements. > > That is what metacello is for. Refer to the versions you need and you are > off the races. As you are one of those who maintains it you are even in the > position to _not_ integrate every other change. So if the write restriction > to petit parser (being in the moose repo) is the solution we should talk. > > Norbert > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > >> >> Am 07.11.2013 um 11:07 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: >> >> > The official repository of PetitParser is >> > Moose/PetitParser >> > on smalltalkhub >> > >> thanks. >> >> > http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html >> > >> Well, this is not a good place IMHO. A more independent but official repo >> would be nice. >> >> Norbert >> >> >> > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow" > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Grid/Table Layout

by Benjamin

On 07 Nov 2013, at 12:04, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/07/2013 12:34, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Actually I had the same problem, I think the best widget that exists for that right now is MultiColumnListModel. >> >> For example, in the senders window (in attachment), the top panel is a MultiColumnListModel. You can have as many lines and as many columns as you want. > > Great. Now I have to check if I can put widgets in those "lines" and "columns" instead of just text? > >> >> We do not have yet a tableLayout, but we miss it. If you plan to implement it, we will be interested in integrating it into Pharo. > > No way! At least currently :-) I'm just too inexperienced for such serious stuff Thatâs a good way to learn :P Ben > >> >> Ben can advise you on how to implement that. >> >> <Mail Attachment.png> >> >> >> 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> >> Hi all, >> >> Is there a grid/table layout available in Spec? Something like an HTML >> table or Swing's GridLayout? If not, how may I achieve such a >> functionality? >> >> I'd appreciate any hints/pointers. >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> >> >> > > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Grid/Table Layout

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/07/2013 12:34, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > Hello, > > Actually I had the same problem, I think the best widget that exists > for that right now is MultiColumnListModel. > > For example, in the senders window (in attachment), the top panel is a > MultiColumnListModel. You can have as many lines and as many columns > as you want. Great. Now I have to check if I can put widgets in those "lines" and "columns" instead of just text? > > We do not have yet a tableLayout, but we miss it. If you plan to > implement it, we will be interested in integrating it into Pharo. No way! At least currently :-) I'm just too inexperienced for such serious stuff > > Ben can advise you on how to implement that. > > Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1 > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> > > Hi all, > > Is there a grid/table layout available in Spec? Something like an > HTML > table or Swing's GridLayout? If not, how may I achieve such a > functionality? > > I'd appreciate any hints/pointers. > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com > <http://keyserver2.pgp.com>) > > > -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Norbert Hartl

Am 07.11.2013 um 11:46 schrieb Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com>: > Hi, > > It is in the Moose repository because Moose was essentially the first larger user (besides Helvetia) since its inception (more than 3 years now), and because the development of PetitParser was taken care of by the Moose team. > Being a user of a software is not a good reason to tie it to it. Ask Stef ;) It is nice if the moose team took (and takes) care for it. But you can take care in another repository as well. I think petit parser is an important and standalone package that has nothing to do with moose. Putting this inside another project just weakens the included project. > If others want to contribute (and even integrate into Pharo), it would be great and then we should move it. But, moving should come with commitment. This is an important piece in Moose and we need it to stay working and compatible with Moose requirements. > That is what metacello is for. Refer to the versions you need and you are off the races. As you are one of those who maintains it you are even in the position to _not_ integrate every other change. So if the write restriction to petit parser (being in the moose repo) is the solution we should talk. Norbert > Cheers, > Doru > > > > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 07.11.2013 um 11:07 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > > > The official repository of PetitParser is > > Moose/PetitParser > > on smalltalkhub > > > thanks. > > > http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html > > > Well, this is not a good place IMHO. A more independent but official repo would be nice. > > Norbert > > > > > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Nested Layouts

by Benjamin

Cool :) I think what Clement answered is what you wanted :) Alos, see the other thread, you can do table by tweaking a TreeModel :) Ben On 07 Nov 2013, at 11:08, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/07/2013 12:45, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: >> Hey, >> >> I don't know what you want exactly. > > Right. I had a feeling that I'd asked it the wrong way :-) > > What I'd like to know is that can I mimic a table layout by nesting column and row layouts? > >> >> You can do: >> >> spec >> <spec> >> ^ SpecLayout composed >> newRow: [:row | >> row >> newColumn: [ :col | >> col >> add: #list width: 135; >> add: #description ] ]; >> yourself >> >> and nest that as many times as you want (but I don't know if this was your question). >> >> Another feature is: >> >> debuggerSpec >> <spec: #default> >> ^ SpecLayout composed >> add: #inspector withSpec: #debuggerSpec; >> yourself >> >> #inspector being the instance variable name that holds a subclass of ComposableModel that defines class side #debuggerSpec, which answers a SpecLayout. >> >> Not sure if this helped. > > Thanks. I'll give this a try and let you know. > >> >> All of these questions are for your tutorials ? > > Yes. Actually I'm trying to build a UI for Fossil DVCS with Pharo. And in the meantime, I document what I learn hoping it will save somebody else's time :-) > >> >> >> 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> >> Hi all, >> >> Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine >> `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? >> >> TIA, >> > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Grid/Table Layout

by Benjamin

Such a UI can be achieve with a MorphTreeMorph (therefor with a TreeModel in Spec). Maybe I should create a TableModel in addition since a TreeModel for this is a bit magic :) Ben On 07 Nov 2013, at 10:04, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > Actually I had the same problem, I think the best widget that exists for that right now is MultiColumnListModel. > > For example, in the senders window (in attachment), the top panel is a MultiColumnListModel. You can have as many lines and as many columns as you want. > > We do not have yet a tableLayout, but we miss it. If you plan to implement it, we will be interested in integrating it into Pharo. > > Ben can advise you on how to implement that. > > <Screen Shot 2013-11-07 at 10.00.55 AM.png> > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > Hi all, > > Is there a grid/table layout available in Spec? Something like an HTML > table or Swing's GridLayout? If not, how may I achieve such a > functionality? > > I'd appreciate any hints/pointers. > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

Somehow itâs true. And you could try it :) But while doing Spec I also fixed a lot of bugs in the morphic widgets themselves :) Try with the latest spec, and tell me :P Ben On 07 Nov 2013, at 05:38, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2013 20:35, Benjamin wrote: >> Ok :) >> >> These methods only exists in Pharo 3.0 :) > > Hmm...I don't understand. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Spec is a UI library, so it doesn't matter if I'm using it in Pharo 2.0 or 3.0 as long as I have the correct version of Spec. > >> >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:38, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: >> >>> On 11/06/2013 11:07, Benjamin wrote: >>>> In which version of Pharo are you working ? >>> >>> Pharo2.0 >>> Latest update: #20607 >>> >>>> >>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:31, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>>>> This is the expected behaviour :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >>>>>>> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> There is also acceptOnCr :) >>>>> >>>>> That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>>>>>>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> should be turned into: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> #initializePresenter >>>>>>>> textName := self newTextInput. >>>>>>>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >>>>>>> understand `self newTextInput`. >>>>>> >>>>>> Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName >>>>>> TextInputFieldModel). >>>>>> It simply creates a new sub model for you :) >>>>> >>>>> Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select >>>>> newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my >>>>> class definition: >>>>> >>>>> <code> >>>>> ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec >>>>> instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' >>>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>>> poolDictionaries: '' >>>>> category: 'Bahman-Spec' >>>>> </code> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>>> textName autoAccept: true. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >>>>>>> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thatâs actually a good question :) >>>>>> I guess the answer is historical :) >>>>> >>>>> Ancestral remains, huh? :-) >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>>>>>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>>>>>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>>>>>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>>>>>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <code> >>>>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> initializeWidgets >>>>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>>>> </code> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>>>>>>> behaviour. >>>>>>> > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Tudor Girba

Hi, It is in the Moose repository because Moose was essentially the first larger user (besides Helvetia) since its inception (more than 3 years now), and because the development of PetitParser was taken care of by the Moose team. If others want to contribute (and even integrate into Pharo), it would be great and then we should move it. But, moving should come with commitment. This is an important piece in Moose and we need it to stay working and compatible with Moose requirements. Cheers, Doru On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > Am 07.11.2013 um 11:07 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > > > The official repository of PetitParser is > > Moose/PetitParser > > on smalltalkhub > > > thanks. > > > http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html > > > Well, this is not a good place IMHO. A more independent but official repo > would be nice. > > Norbert > > > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow"

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Norbert Hartl

Am 07.11.2013 um 11:07 schrieb Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl>: > The official repository of PetitParser is > Moose/PetitParser > on smalltalkhub > thanks. > http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html > Well, this is not a good place IMHO. A more independent but official repo would be nice. Norbert

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Nested Layouts

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/07/2013 12:45, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > Hey, > > I don't know what you want exactly. Right. I had a feeling that I'd asked it the wrong way :-) What I'd like to know is that can I mimic a table layout by nesting column and row layouts? > > You can do: > > spec > <spec> > ^ SpecLayout composed > newRow: [:row | > row > newColumn: [ :col | > col > add: #list width: 135; > add: #description ] ]; > yourself > > and nest that as many times as you want (but I don't know if this was > your question). > > Another feature is: > > debuggerSpec > <spec: #default> > ^ SpecLayout composed > add: #inspector withSpec: #debuggerSpec; > yourself > > #inspector being the instance variable name that holds a subclass of > ComposableModel that defines class side #debuggerSpec, which answers a > SpecLayout. > > Not sure if this helped. Thanks. I'll give this a try and let you know. > > All of these questions are for your tutorials ? Yes. Actually I'm trying to build a UI for Fossil DVCS with Pharo. And in the meantime, I document what I learn hoping it will save somebody else's time :-) > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> > > Hi all, > > Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine > `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? > > TIA, > -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Stephan Eggermont

The official repository of PetitParser is Moose/PetitParser on smalltalkhub http://forum.world.st/moving-petitparser-to-smalltalkhub-td4671840.html

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Jan KurÅ¡

Hi, https://ci.inria.fr/moose/job/petitparser/ Or PBE2 says: Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'Moose' project: 'PetitParser'; package: 'ConfigurationOfPetitParser'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPetitParser) perform: #loadDefault. Hope it helps, I use the first option. Cheers, Jan On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Looking at smalltalkhub there are plenty of PetitParser repos to find but > none that looks official. So which is considered official? I still had > Lukasâ repo in my config but the server seems to be down so I noticed. > > Norbert >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Repository of petit parser

by Camillo Bruni

If we open an official one, given the importance of petitparser, it should be under PharoExtras. On 2013-11-07, at 10:10, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > Looking at smalltalkhub there are plenty of PetitParser repos to find but none that looks official. So which is considered official? I still had Lukasâ repo in my config but the server seems to be down so I noticed. > > Norbert

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Tutorial Series

by kilon alios

well done, this is indeed a very good tutorial and more than welcomed, thank you :) I twitted it :) On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr>wrote: > > On 07 Nov 2013, at 10:08, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm glad you are doing that :). > > Marcus could you tweet about this blog on the Pharo tweeter account > > > Yes, I will do that (i put it in the queue, I do one per day max :-) > > ? So many people are waiting for more tutorials on Spec. > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm writing a series of tutorials for Spec for beginners like myself and >> I'd really appreciate any input on the material. >> The first episode is done: >> http://www.bahmanm.com/blogs/spec-part-1-basics >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com <http://bahmanm.com/>) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> >> >> > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Tutorial Series

by Marcus Denker

On 07 Nov 2013, at 10:08, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I'm glad you are doing that :). > > Marcus could you tweet about this blog on the Pharo tweeter account Yes, I will do that (i put it in the queue, I do one per day max :-) > ? So many people are waiting for more tutorials on Spec. > > > 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > Hi all, > > I'm writing a series of tutorials for Spec for beginners like myself and > I'd really appreciate any input on the material. > The first episode is done: http://www.bahmanm.com/blogs/spec-part-1-basics > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Nested Layouts

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hey, I don't know what you want exactly. You can do: spec <spec> ^ SpecLayout composed newRow: [:row | row newColumn: [ :col | col add: #list width: 135; add: #description ] ]; yourself and nest that as many times as you want (but I don't know if this was your question). Another feature is: debuggerSpec <spec: #default> ^ SpecLayout composed add: #inspector withSpec: #debuggerSpec; yourself #inspector being the instance variable name that holds a subclass of ComposableModel that defines class side #debuggerSpec, which answers a SpecLayout. Not sure if this helped. All of these questions are for your tutorials ? 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > Hi all, > > Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine > `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Repository of petit parser

by Norbert Hartl

Looking at smalltalkhub there are plenty of PetitParser repos to find but none that looks official. So which is considered official? I still had Lukasâ repo in my config but the server seems to be down so I noticed. Norbert

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Tutorial Series

by ClÃ©ment Bera

I'm glad you are doing that :). Marcus could you tweet about this blog on the Pharo tweeter account ? So many people are waiting for more tutorials on Spec. 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > Hi all, > > I'm writing a series of tutorials for Spec for beginners like myself and > I'd really appreciate any input on the material. > The first episode is done: > http://www.bahmanm.com/blogs/spec-part-1-basics > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Grid/Table Layout

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, Actually I had the same problem, I think the best widget that exists for that right now is MultiColumnListModel. For example, in the senders window (in attachment), the top panel is a MultiColumnListModel. You can have as many lines and as many columns as you want. We do not have yet a tableLayout, but we miss it. If you plan to implement it, we will be interested in integrating it into Pharo. Ben can advise you on how to implement that. [image: Images intÃ©grÃ©es 1] 2013/11/7 Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> > Hi all, > > Is there a grid/table layout available in Spec? Something like an HTML > table or Swing's GridLayout? If not, how may I achieve such a > functionality? > > I'd appreciate any hints/pointers. > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - Text alignment in LabelModel

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hey, I'm not sure this is the good way to do it, but you can store in your labelModel a Text instead of a String: myComposableModel label text: 'someString' asText. Then you can add attribute to the text: myComposableModel label text addAttribute: TextColor red. myComposableModel label text addAttribute: TextAlignment rightFlush. Try first with TextColor red, because for TextAlignment rightFlush there might be other reason it does not work (i.e. the label model has the width of the text, so modifying the alignment will not modify anything). Best, 2013/11/7 nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> > Hi, > After spending almost two hours digging into Spec I couldn't figure out how > to change the alignment of the text in LabelModel. As I'm building a simple > calculator, the text has to be right-aligned. The default is > left-alginement > which makes the calculator display look weird. > Any help would be much appreciated. > best regards > Nacho > > > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Spec-Text-alignment-in-LabelModel-tp4719750.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >

Nov. 7, 2013

Spec - Nested Layouts

by Bahman Movaqar

Hi all, Is it possible to nest layouts in Spec? For example can I combine `SpecColumnLayout` and `SpecRowLayout` together? TIA, -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Spec - Tutorial Series

by Bahman Movaqar

Hi all, I'm writing a series of tutorials for Spec for beginners like myself and I'd really appreciate any input on the material. The first episode is done: http://www.bahmanm.com/blogs/spec-part-1-basics -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/06/2013 20:35, Benjamin wrote: > Ok :) > > These methods only exists in Pharo 3.0 :) Hmm...I don't understand. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought Spec is a UI library, so it doesn't matter if I'm using it in Pharo 2.0 or 3.0 as long as I have the correct version of Spec. > > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:38, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com > <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: > >> On 11/06/2013 11:07, Benjamin wrote: >>> In which version of Pharo are you working ? >> >> Pharo2.0 >> Latest update: #20607 >> >>> >>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:31, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: >>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com> >>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>>> This is the expected behaviour :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >>>>>> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) >>>>> >>>>> There is also acceptOnCr :) >>>> >>>> That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>>>>>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> should be turned into: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> #initializePresenter >>>>>>> textName := self newTextInput. >>>>>>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>>>>>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >>>>>> >>>>>> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >>>>>> understand `self newTextInput`. >>>>> >>>>> Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName >>>>> TextInputFieldModel). >>>>> It simply creates a new sub model for you :) >>>> >>>> Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select >>>> newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my >>>> class definition: >>>> >>>> <code> >>>> ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec >>>> instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' >>>> classVariableNames: '' >>>> poolDictionaries: '' >>>> category: 'Bahman-Spec' >>>> </code> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>> textName autoAccept: true. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >>>>>> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? >>>>> >>>>> Thatâs actually a good question :) >>>>> I guess the answer is historical :) >>>> >>>> Ancestral remains, huh? :-) >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com> >>>>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>>>>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>>>>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>>>>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>>>>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <code> >>>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>>>>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> initializeWidgets >>>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>>> ). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>>> </code> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>>>>>> behaviour. >>>>>> -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Spec - Grid/Table Layout

by Bahman Movaqar

Hi all, Is there a grid/table layout available in Spec? Something like an HTML table or Swing's GridLayout? If not, how may I achieve such a functionality? I'd appreciate any hints/pointers. -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 7, 2013

Spec - Text alignment in LabelModel

by nacho

Hi, After spending almost two hours digging into Spec I couldn't figure out how to change the alignment of the text in LabelModel. As I'm building a simple calculator, the text has to be right-aligned. The default is left-alginement which makes the calculator display look weird. Any help would be much appreciated. best regards Nacho ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-Text-alignment-in-LabelModel-tp4719750.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 7, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Using FFI

by Annick Fron

I am using the latest download from version 2 Annick Le 31 oct. 2013 Ã 18:47, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : > ok... then we have a problem. > but we need more data... > > which image version are you using? > and which vm version? > > cheers, > Esteban > > On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: > >> I hÃ¢ve thÃ© error on Windows >> >> EnvoyÃ© de mon iPod >> >> Le 31 oct. 2013 Ã 14:51, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 31 October 2013 11:23, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: >>> Hi Igor >>> >>> I have done that, but still gets an error, do I need to remove NativeBoost ? >>> Annick >>> >>> >>> FFI not supported on ARM >>> >>> Le 30 oct. 2013 Ã 14:12, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>> >>>> AFAIK, it should be in Configurations browser. >>>> Else try this: >>>> >>>> Gofer new >>>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>>> >>>> package: 'ConfigurationOfFFI'; >>>> load. >>>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfFFI) project lastVersion load >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30 October 2013 09:41, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: >>>> My problem is that the Raspberry does not support native boost (as yet !). >>>> Where can I load the old FFI ? >>>> >>>> Le 29 oct. 2013 Ã 16:57, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> a Ã©crit : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 29 October 2013 16:27, Annick Fron <info(a)afceurope.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I want to launch a simple init with the following C signature : >>>>> >>>>> void gst_init (int *argc, char **argv[]) >>>>> >>>>> If I write >>>>> >>>>> <apicall: void 'gst_init' (int*, char**) module: 'blabla'> >>>>> >>>>> I get a Smalltalk syntax error >>>>> >>>>> Annick Fron >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To use this syntax, you must load old FFI implementation. >>>>> Or use NativeBoost: >>>>> >>>>> init: intarg with: chararg >>>>> <primitive: 'primitiveNativeCall' module: 'NativeBoostPlugin'> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> self nbCall: 'void gst_init (int * intarg, char ** chararg)' module: 'blaba' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> Igor Stasenko. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

Ok :) These methods only exists in Pharo 3.0 :) Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:38, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2013 11:07, Benjamin wrote: >> In which version of Pharo are you working ? > > Pharo2.0 > Latest update: #20607 > >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:31, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: >> >>> On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: >>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>>>>> This is the expected behaviour :) >>>>> >>>>> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >>>>> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) >>>> >>>> There is also acceptOnCr :) >>> >>> That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>>>>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>> ). >>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>> >>>>>> should be turned into: >>>>>> >>>>>> #initializePresenter >>>>>> textName := self newTextInput. >>>>>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>>>>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >>>>> >>>>> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >>>>> understand `self newTextInput`. >>>> >>>> Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName >>>> TextInputFieldModel). >>>> It simply creates a new sub model for you :) >>> >>> Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select >>> newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my >>> class definition: >>> >>> <code> >>> ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec >>> instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' >>> classVariableNames: '' >>> poolDictionaries: '' >>> category: 'Bahman-Spec' >>> </code> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>> textName autoAccept: true. >>>>> >>>>> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >>>>> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? >>>> >>>> Thatâs actually a good question :) >>>> I guess the answer is historical :) >>> >>> Ancestral remains, huh? :-) >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>>>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>>>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>>>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>>>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <code> >>>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>>>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>>>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>>>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>>>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> initializeWidgets >>>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>>> ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>>> </code> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> TIA, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>>>>> behaviour. >>>>> > > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

Great, thanks for sharing =) On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > this is old stuff (from before I came to RMoD team)... but well, is > something like this: > > - a client-server app, connecting to a centralized mongodb (in fact, I > developed the first version of Voyage for this app). > - Glamour + Magritte + my own extensions to magritte and glamour. There is > no Spec (The project is in Pharo 1.4), and most of the changes I made at > the time to glamour were integrated. > - Libharu (http://www.squeaksource.com/HPDF.html) to export to PDF, with > a Magritte extension to produce the reports. > > the cool thing is that even if I developed many frameworks to help me in > the task, I tool 15 days to have first version working and 1 month to > finish it :) > > cheers, > Esteban > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < > tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> That looks cool! >> >> Did you embed a MongoDB instance in the application package? Or the >> application is connecting to a remote MongoDB? >> Is it full Glamour or did you have to use Spec/Morph manually at some >> point? >> >> >> Sorry to bother you, I'm just getting curious ;) >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some >>> work), as you can see here: >>> >>> http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: >>> >>>> Here: >>>> >>>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph >>>> >>>> Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. >>>> >>>> It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. >>>> http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >>>>> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >>>>> > development) >>>>> >>>>> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >>>>> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >>>>> > not covering all you may need in an application). >>>>> > >>>>> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >>>>> > Magritte Morphic working. >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> Where can I follow his work? >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >>>>> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi, >>>>> > >>>>> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >>>>> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >>>>> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >>>>> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >>>>> > >>>>> > Alain >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar < >>>>> Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >>>>> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi all, >>>>> > >>>>> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, >>>>> modal >>>>> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >>>>> > should I >>>>> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >>>>> >>>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >>>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Nov. 6, 2013

Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Torsten Bergmann

Esteban wrote: >- Libharu (http://www.squeaksource.com/HPDF.html) to export to PDF, with a >Magritte extension to produce the reports. > >the cool thing is that even if I developed many frameworks to help me in >the task, I tool 15 days to have first version working and 1 month to >finish it :) Thats why I created such "infrastructure" projects like HPDF - it makes life more easier for any new projects afterwards. Glad that it was usefull. Meanwhile HPDF is outdated (still on FFI, a port to NativeBoost would now be state of the art) and we also have Artefact for PDF generation as a "Pharo only" solution. One question: did you "hard code" the PDF layouts for the documents in the "lawsuitTracker" or what did you use to (quickly) define the report layouts? I would like to see some kind of general reporting engine in the future. Either a pharo based one or by using templates from existing engines (for instance JasperReports has a nice visual ui designer and layout templates are stored in XML files) With a future UIBuilder for PharoUI's, Seaside for Web-UI's and a (Pharo based) ReportingEngine Pharo could be an attractive solution to build business software... Thx T.

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by kilon alios

Probably I mixed things up, or I remember incorrectly, my apologies. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Sergi Reyner <sergi.reyner(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > El 06/11/2013 10:52, "kilon alios" <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > > > > > I hear that git is a really bad idea for saving binary data. The reason > behind it from what I have read is that git in each commit stores the > entire file tree structure and not just the files commited, > > Not at all. Simply put, git works in terms of diffs. >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by Sergi Reyner

El 06/11/2013 10:52, "kilon alios" <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> escribiÃ³: > > I hear that git is a really bad idea for saving binary data. The reason behind it from what I have read is that git in each commit stores the entire file tree structure and not just the files commited, Not at all. Simply put, git works in terms of diffs.

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

I am also interested. Implementing a four-function calculator has always been my first example to learn a new GUI. On 06 Nov 2013, at 12:33, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would love if we could get the code and if you would be interested to write a little tutorial > around spec using your calculator. > Why? Because we need help to write documentation and others :) > Are you interested? > > Stef > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you so much! >> That did it :) >> >> It's almost done now. >> cheers >> N. >> >> >> Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> You just need to override the method #initialExtent >> >> It should return a point structured like this: width@height >> >> :) >> >> Ben >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really basic >>> calculator. >>> So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at >>> getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the >>> window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec >>> It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. >>> The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I >>> would like to get. >>> I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the >>> size of the window. >>> I'm kind of stuck! >>> >>> thanks >>> cheers >>> Nacho >>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Nacho >>> Smalltalker apprentice. >>> Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Benjamin

Cool :) Thank you Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 12:37, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Sure! That was exactly the idea: share this as a kind of tutorial for others. I put comments almost everywhere just for those who want to take a look at the code. Once it's finished I will uploaded. > cheers > Nacho > > > Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > I would love if we could get the code and if you would be interested to write a little tutorial > around spec using your calculator. > Why? Because we need help to write documentation and others :) > Are you interested? > > Stef > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thank you so much! >> That did it :) >> >> It's almost done now. >> cheers >> N. >> >> >> Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> You just need to override the method #initialExtent >> >> It should return a point structured like this: width@height >> >> :) >> >> Ben >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really basic >>> calculator. >>> So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at >>> getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the >>> window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec >>> It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. >>> The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I >>> would like to get. >>> I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the >>> size of the window. >>> I'm kind of stuck! >>> >>> thanks >>> cheers >>> Nacho >>> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Nacho >>> Smalltalker apprentice. >>> Buenos Aires, Argentina. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… >>> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >> >> > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Sure! That was exactly the idea: share this as a kind of tutorial for others. I put comments almost everywhere just for those who want to take a look at the code. Once it's finished I will uploaded. cheers Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:33 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr>wrote: > I would love if we could get the code and if you would be interested to > write a little tutorial > around spec using your calculator. > Why? Because we need help to write documentation and others :) > Are you interested? > > Stef > > On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho@ > gmail.com> wrote: > > Thank you so much! > That did it :) > > It's almost done now. > cheers > N. > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA * > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin < > Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> You just need to override the method #initialExtent >> >> It should return a point structured like this: width@height >> >> :) >> >> Ben >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really >> basic >> calculator. >> So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble >> at >> getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the >> window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec >> It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. >> The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I >> would like to get. >> I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change >> the >> size of the window. >> I'm kind of stuck! >> >> thanks >> cheers >> Nacho >> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Nacho >> Smalltalker apprentice. >> Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com<http://nabble.com/> >> . >> >> >> > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

I would love if we could get the code and if you would be interested to write a little tutorial around spec using your calculator. Why? Because we need help to write documentation and others :) Are you interested? Stef On Nov 6, 2013, at 12:18 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you so much! > That did it :) > > It's almost done now. > cheers > N. > > > Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You just need to override the method #initialExtent > > It should return a point structured like this: width@height > > :) > > Ben > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really basic >> calculator. >> So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at >> getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the >> window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec >> It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. >> The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I >> would like to get. >> I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the >> size of the window. >> I'm kind of stuck! >> >> thanks >> cheers >> Nacho >> <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Nacho >> Smalltalker apprentice. >> Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I hear that git is a really bad idea for saving binary data. The reason > behind it from what I have read is that git in each commit stores the > entire file tree structure and not just the files commited, meaning that if > you commit in a directory of 100 mb of data, then you will get 100 mb per > commit, will take you only 10 commits for 1 GB. All that assuming that that > data is tracked by your git repo (git add). > > that is plainly wrong understanding of how git works. davorin rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Esteban Lorenzano

this is old stuff (from before I came to RMoD team)... but well, is something like this: - a client-server app, connecting to a centralized mongodb (in fact, I developed the first version of Voyage for this app). - Glamour + Magritte + my own extensions to magritte and glamour. There is no Spec (The project is in Pharo 1.4), and most of the changes I made at the time to glamour were integrated. - Libharu (http://www.squeaksource.com/HPDF.html) to export to PDF, with a Magritte extension to produce the reports. the cool thing is that even if I developed many frameworks to help me in the task, I tool 15 days to have first version working and 1 month to finish it :) cheers, Esteban On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:35 AM, FranÃ§ois Stephany <tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com > wrote: > That looks cool! > > Did you embed a MongoDB instance in the application package? Or the > application is connecting to a remote MongoDB? > Is it full Glamour or did you have to use Spec/Morph manually at some > point? > > > Sorry to bother you, I'm just getting curious ;) > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some work), >> as you can see here: >> >> http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: >> >>> Here: >>> >>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph >>> >>> Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. >>> >>> It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. >>> http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>>> > >>>> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >>>> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >>>> > development) >>>> >>>> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >>>> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >>>> > not covering all you may need in an application). >>>> > >>>> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >>>> > Magritte Morphic working. >>>> > >>>> >>>> Where can I follow his work? >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >>>> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >>>> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >>>> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >>>> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >>>> > >>>> > Alain >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar < >>>> Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >>>> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, >>>> modal >>>> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >>>> > should I >>>> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >>>> >>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Thank you so much! That did it :) It's almost done now. cheers N. *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:07 AM, Benjamin < Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You just need to override the method #initialExtent > > It should return a point structured like this: width@height > > :) > > Ben > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really > basic > calculator. > So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at > getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the > window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec > It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. > The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I > would like to get. > I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the > size of the window. > I'm kind of stuck! > > thanks > cheers > Nacho > <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by kilon alios

I hear that git is a really bad idea for saving binary data. The reason behind it from what I have read is that git in each commit stores the entire file tree structure and not just the files commited, meaning that if you commit in a directory of 100 mb of data, then you will get 100 mb per commit, will take you only 10 commits for 1 GB. All that assuming that that data is tracked by your git repo (git add). So if you dont want to version control that data, it would make more sense to use something like dropbox or torrents etc. Dropbox also offers some very basic version control, but its very limited AFAIK. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 11:39 AM, FranÃ§ois Stephany < tulipe.moutarde(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Git. > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > >> FranÃ§ois Stephany wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> Projects are not only source code anymore. Most of my projects have a >> gazillion of images, javascript, CSS files, etc. >> Storing all those external files in .mcz packages is not scalable (and not >> even elegant). >> >> >> >> What do you consider are scalable alternatives for storing external files >> related to a project? >> cheers -ben >> >> >> FileTree+Git, while not ideal, solve the issue quite nicely. And you don't >> need Github anyway... >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >> >> >> On 2013-11-03, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: >> >> >> >> Kilon wrote >> >> >> I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find >> >> >> little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against >> Smalltalkhub or other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier. >> >> >> I see some very strong arguments against depending on github: >> - it is centralized infrastructure, essentially unsuitable for use with >> >> >> a distributed version control system; >> >> >> - it doesnât support working at the right granularity; >> - the smalltalk community is too small to have any influence on the >> >> >> directions github is taking. >> >> >> It is a commercial organization that can decide to do something we >> >> >> donât like at any time. >> >> >> It is free, so we are the product. Just take a look at sourceforge; >> - we can do much better than github (but donât have enough time). We >> >> >> should be using a P2P, >> >> >> bittorrent like system for version control. >> >> >> github != git and whether we use github or now does not matter at all. >> What matters is that we use technology that is robust and that we have a >> versioning >> system that works decentralized. All of that is solved by git. >> >> With filetree we have the proper granularity (methods) >> With github we have an awesome website, such as we have an aweseome >> website with smalltalkhub, execpt that monticello should be modernized. >> Sadly the community is too small to achieve that, and inventing yet another >> versioning tool/system won't help on the short run. Maybe, yes someday in >> the future we can have our own fancy fully object-oriented versioning >> system, but IMO that is wasted effort, as git/mercurial come very close to >> something ideal. >> >> I am happy to give more insight into git, because I think you have quite a >> wrong picture about it :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

Thatâs correct :) Even if the version I proposed you to initialise widgets >> textName := self newTextInput. >> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >> buttonGreet := self newButton. is the new way to do it :) Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 11:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >> This is the expected behaviour :) >> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept the text at each keyStroke :) >> >>> initializePresenter >> >>> self instantiateModels: #( >>> textName TextModel >>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>> ). >>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> >> should be turned into: >> >> #initializePresenter >> textName := self newTextInput. >> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >> buttonGreet := self newButton. >> >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> textName autoAccept: true. >> > > Just got home and tried autoAccept and got a "MessageNotUnderstood: TextModel>>autoAccept:" error. > Though after changing `initializeWidgets` to the following, it worked as expected: > > <code> > self instantiateModels: #( > textName TextInputFieldModel > labelGreeting LabelModel > buttonGreet ButtonModel > ). > </code> > > Is what I have done the right way to do it? > >> Keep me in touch :) >> >> Ben >> >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>> >>> Here's some snippets of code: >>> >>> <code> >>> initializePresenter >>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>> buttonGreet action: [ >>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>> >>> >>> >>> initializeWidgets >>> self instantiateModels: #( >>> textName TextModel >>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>> ). >>> >>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>> </code> >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same behaviour. > > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: > This is the expected behaviour :) > But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept the > text at each keyStroke :) > >> initializePresenter >> self instantiateModels: #( >> textName TextModel >> labelGreeting LabelModel >> buttonGreet ButtonModel >> ). >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. > > should be turned into: > > #initializePresenter > textName := self newTextInput. > labelGreeting := self newLabel. > buttonGreet := self newButton. > > labelGreeting text: ''. > buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. > textName autoAccept: true. > Just got home and tried autoAccept and got a "MessageNotUnderstood: TextModel>>autoAccept:" error. Though after changing `initializeWidgets` to the following, it worked as expected: <code> self instantiateModels: #( textName TextInputFieldModel labelGreeting LabelModel buttonGreet ButtonModel ). </code> Is what I have done the right way to do it? > Keep me in touch :) > > Ben > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com > <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >> >> Here's some snippets of code: >> >> <code> >> initializePresenter >> textName whenTextChanged: [ >> buttonGreet enable ]. >> buttonGreet action: [ >> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >> buttonGreet disable ]. >> >> >> >> initializeWidgets >> self instantiateModels: #( >> textName TextModel >> labelGreeting LabelModel >> buttonGreet ButtonModel >> ). >> >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> </code> >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> TIA, >> >> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >> behaviour. -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

Git. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:04 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > FranÃ§ois Stephany wrote: > > +1 > > Projects are not only source code anymore. Most of my projects have a > gazillion of images, javascript, CSS files, etc. > Storing all those external files in .mcz packages is not scalable (and not > even elegant). > > > > What do you consider are scalable alternatives for storing external files > related to a project? > cheers -ben > > > FileTree+Git, while not ideal, solve the issue quite nicely. And you don't > need Github anyway... > > > On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > > > On 2013-11-03, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > > > Kilon wrote > > > I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find > > > little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against > Smalltalkhub or other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier. > > > I see some very strong arguments against depending on github: > - it is centralized infrastructure, essentially unsuitable for use with > > > a distributed version control system; > > > - it doesnât support working at the right granularity; > - the smalltalk community is too small to have any influence on the > > > directions github is taking. > > > It is a commercial organization that can decide to do something we > > > donât like at any time. > > > It is free, so we are the product. Just take a look at sourceforge; > - we can do much better than github (but donât have enough time). We > > > should be using a P2P, > > > bittorrent like system for version control. > > > github != git and whether we use github or now does not matter at all. > What matters is that we use technology that is robust and that we have a > versioning > system that works decentralized. All of that is solved by git. > > With filetree we have the proper granularity (methods) > With github we have an awesome website, such as we have an aweseome > website with smalltalkhub, execpt that monticello should be modernized. > Sadly the community is too small to achieve that, and inventing yet another > versioning tool/system won't help on the short run. Maybe, yes someday in > the future we can have our own fancy fully object-oriented versioning > system, but IMO that is wasted effort, as git/mercurial come very close to > something ideal. > > I am happy to give more insight into git, because I think you have quite a > wrong picture about it :) > > > > > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

That looks cool! Did you embed a MongoDB instance in the application package? Or the application is connecting to a remote MongoDB? Is it full Glamour or did you have to use Spec/Morph manually at some point? Sorry to bother you, I'm just getting curious ;) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some work), > as you can see here: > > http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > >> Here: >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph >> >> Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. >> >> It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. >> http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: >> >>> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>> > >>> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >>> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >>> > development) >>> >>> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >>> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >>> >>> > >>> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >>> > not covering all you may need in an application). >>> > >>> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >>> > Magritte Morphic working. >>> > >>> >>> Where can I follow his work? >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >>> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >>> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >>> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >>> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >>> > >>> > Alain >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >>> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, >>> modal >>> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >>> > should I >>> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >>> >>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >>> >>> >>> >> >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/06/2013 11:07, Benjamin wrote: > In which version of Pharo are you working ? Pharo2.0 Latest update: #20607 > > On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:31, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com > <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: > >> On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: >>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com> >>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>>>> This is the expected behaviour :) >>>> >>>> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >>>> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) >>> >>> There is also acceptOnCr :) >> >> That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) >> >>> >>>> >>>>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>>>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>>>> >>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>> ). >>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>> >>>>> should be turned into: >>>>> >>>>> #initializePresenter >>>>> textName := self newTextInput. >>>>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>>>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >>>> >>>> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >>>> understand `self newTextInput`. >>> >>> Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName >>> TextInputFieldModel). >>> It simply creates a new sub model for you :) >> >> Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select >> newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my >> class definition: >> >> <code> >> ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec >> instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' >> classVariableNames: '' >> poolDictionaries: '' >> category: 'Bahman-Spec' >> </code> >> >>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>> textName autoAccept: true. >>>> >>>> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >>>> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? >>> >>> Thatâs actually a good question :) >>> I guess the answer is historical :) >> >> Ancestral remains, huh? :-) >> >>> >>>> >>>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com> >>>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>>>> >>>>>> <code> >>>>>> initializePresenter >>>>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> initializeWidgets >>>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>>> textName TextModel >>>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>>> ). >>>>>> >>>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>>> </code> >>>>>> >>>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> TIA, >>>>>> >>>>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>>>> behaviour. >>>> -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

In which version of Pharo are you working ? Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:31, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >> >>> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>>> This is the expected behaviour :) >>> >>> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >>> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) >> >> There is also acceptOnCr :) > > That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) > >> >>> >>>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>>> >>>>> initializePresenter >>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>> textName TextModel >>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>> ). >>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>> >>>> should be turned into: >>>> >>>> #initializePresenter >>>> textName := self newTextInput. >>>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >>> >>> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >>> understand `self newTextInput`. >> >> Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName >> TextInputFieldModel). >> It simply creates a new sub model for you :) > > Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select > newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my > class definition: > > <code> > ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec > instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' > classVariableNames: '' > poolDictionaries: '' > category: 'Bahman-Spec' > </code> > >> >>> >>>> >>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>> textName autoAccept: true. >>> >>> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >>> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? >> >> Thatâs actually a good question :) >> I guess the answer is historical :) > > Ancestral remains, huh? :-) > >> >>> >>>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>>> >>>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>>> >>>>> <code> >>>>> initializePresenter >>>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> initializeWidgets >>>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>>> textName TextModel >>>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>>> ). >>>>> >>>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>>> </code> >>>>> >>>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>>> >>>>> TIA, >>>>> >>>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>>> behaviour. >>> > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/06/2013 10:56, Benjamin wrote: > On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com > <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: > >> On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >>> This is the expected behaviour :) >> >> Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) >> --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) > > There is also acceptOnCr :) That clearly shows I have to work on my "exploration" skills :-) > >> >>> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept >>> the text at each keyStroke :) >>> >>>> initializePresenter >>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>> textName TextModel >>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>> ). >>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>> >>> should be turned into: >>> >>> #initializePresenter >>> textName := self newTextInput. >>> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >>> buttonGreet := self newButton. >> >> Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't >> understand `self newTextInput`. > > Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName > TextInputFieldModel). > It simply creates a new sub model for you :) Hmm...Pharo rejects those lines, e.g. with "Unknown select newTextInput". I guess I'm sub-classing the wrong class. Here's my class definition: <code> ComposableModel subclass: #FirstSpec instanceVariableNames: 'textName labelGreeting buttonGreet' classVariableNames: '' poolDictionaries: '' category: 'Bahman-Spec' </code> > >> >>> >>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>> textName autoAccept: true. >> >> It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason >> why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? > > Thatâs actually a good question :) > I guess the answer is historical :) Ancestral remains, huh? :-) > >> >>> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com >>> <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >>>> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >>>> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >>>> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >>>> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>>> >>>> Here's some snippets of code: >>>> >>>> <code> >>>> initializePresenter >>>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>>> buttonGreet action: [ >>>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> initializeWidgets >>>> self instantiateModels: #( >>>> textName TextModel >>>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>>> ). >>>> >>>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>>> </code> >>>> >>>> What am I doing wrong? >>>> >>>> TIA, >>>> >>>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >>>> behaviour. >> -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

On 06 Nov 2013, at 08:21, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: >> This is the expected behaviour :) > > Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) There is also acceptOnCr :) > >> But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept the text at each keyStroke :) >> >>> initializePresenter >> >>> self instantiateModels: #( >>> textName TextModel >>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>> ). >>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> >> should be turned into: >> >> #initializePresenter >> textName := self newTextInput. >> labelGreeting := self newLabel. >> buttonGreet := self newButton. > > Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't understand `self newTextInput`. Itâs equivalent to self instantiateModels: #(textName TextInputFieldModel). It simply creates a new sub model for you :) > >> >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> textName autoAccept: true. > > It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? Thatâs actually a good question :) I guess the answer is historical :) Ben > >> On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >>> >>> Here's some snippets of code: >>> >>> <code> >>> initializePresenter >>> textName whenTextChanged: [ >>> buttonGreet enable ]. >>> buttonGreet action: [ >>> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >>> buttonGreet disable ]. >>> >>> >>> >>> initializeWidgets >>> self instantiateModels: #( >>> textName TextModel >>> labelGreeting LabelModel >>> buttonGreet ButtonModel >>> ). >>> >>> labelGreeting text: ''. >>> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >>> </code> >>> >>> What am I doing wrong? >>> >>> TIA, >>> >>> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same behaviour. > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/06/2013 10:41, Benjamin wrote: > This is the expected behaviour :) Oh! A bit unorthodox, specially considering the shortcut (CTRL+S) --I was expecting something like ENTER :-) > But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept the > text at each keyStroke :) > >> initializePresenter >> self instantiateModels: #( >> textName TextModel >> labelGreeting LabelModel >> buttonGreet ButtonModel >> ). >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. > > should be turned into: > > #initializePresenter > textName := self newTextInput. > labelGreeting := self newLabel. > buttonGreet := self newButton. Would you please explain the RHS of the statements? I don't understand `self newTextInput`. > > labelGreeting text: ''. > buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. > textName autoAccept: true. It's certainly no big deal but I'm just curious; any special reason why `autoAccept` doesn't default to true? > On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com > <mailto:Bahman@BahmanM.com>> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, >> world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. >> What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially >> disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that >> the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. >> >> Here's some snippets of code: >> >> <code> >> initializePresenter >> textName whenTextChanged: [ >> buttonGreet enable ]. >> buttonGreet action: [ >> labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. >> buttonGreet disable ]. >> >> >> >> initializeWidgets >> self instantiateModels: #( >> textName TextModel >> labelGreeting LabelModel >> buttonGreet ButtonModel >> ). >> >> labelGreeting text: ''. >> buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. >> </code> >> >> What am I doing wrong? >> >> TIA, >> >> PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same >> behaviour. -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Benjamin

This is the expected behaviour :) But what you can do (and actually what you wanna do) is to accept the text at each keyStroke :) > initializePresenter > self instantiateModels: #( > textName TextModel > labelGreeting LabelModel > buttonGreet ButtonModel > ). > labelGreeting text: ''. > buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. should be turned into: #initializePresenter textName := self newTextInput. labelGreeting := self newLabel. buttonGreet := self newButton. labelGreeting text: ''. buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. textName autoAccept: true. Keep me in touch :) Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 06:05, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. > > Here's some snippets of code: > > <code> > initializePresenter > textName whenTextChanged: [ > buttonGreet enable ]. > buttonGreet action: [ > labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. > buttonGreet disable ]. > > > > initializeWidgets > self instantiateModels: #( > textName TextModel > labelGreeting LabelModel > buttonGreet ButtonModel > ). > > labelGreeting text: ''. > buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. > </code> > > What am I doing wrong? > > TIA, > > PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same behaviour. > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by Benjamin

You just need to override the method #initialExtent It should return a point structured like this: width@height :) Ben On 06 Nov 2013, at 01:50, nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really basic > calculator. > So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at > getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the > window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec > It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. > The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I > would like to get. > I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the > size of the window. > I'm kind of stuck! > > thanks > cheers > Nacho > <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> > > > > ----- > Nacho > Smalltalker apprentice. > Buenos Aires, Argentina. > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] rawSourceRanges in Encoder class question

by Marcus Denker

Hello, In Pharo3, we replace the *whole* stuff by something new which is much easier to understand. So In Pharo3, all this is not used (Encoder, the old AST, Parser (subclass(!) of Scanner)â¦ The first update of Pharo4 will be to remove the old compiler and then take the opportunity to clean up the compiler API considerably (the old Compiler then will be available as a loadable package, but only for third-party tools like SLANG, not in a state where it could replace the new infrastructure, as the API changes will not be portable without huge changes). So question: do you need to use the old Compiler? A quick overview can be found here: http://marcusdenker.de/publications/Bera13a-OpalIWST.pdf One nice thing (I think) is that we replaced the source code mapping infrastructure completely with one based on the RB AST / Opal IR. It is (at least for me) much cleaner and easier to understand. And it is especially easier to hack. Marcus On 06 Nov 2013, at 02:27, Gabriel Bursztyn <gabrielbursztyn(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys, I am new in this list. > I have a question related to the sourceRanges dictionary in Encoder class. I can see every compiled method has each corresponding methodNode, which is an instance of a ParseNode child class. Every methodNode is formed by different parts represented by other classes also children of ParseNode, like AssignmentNode or MessageNode. > when you decompile the method into the MethodNode, the Encoder instance saves the intervals corresponding to each of these parts. It not saves all the parts, just the AssignmentNode, MessageNode and ReturnNode. (other intervals like the ones corresponding to TempVariableNodes for instance are not saved). The weird thing is that it saves the intervals for the MessageNodes but for some reason they do not corresponds to the positions in the sourceText method (property of MethodNode). I read that this sourceRanges is used for debugging purposes, and I hadn't issues debugging my code. I do not know if it is a bug or I do not understand well the Parser class. > I am using Pharo 2.0 and this code is also in squeak and cuis versions as well. > Example: > > I have created an example class with the following method: > ExampleClass>>#method1: > method1 > | a | > a := 1 + (2 * 3). > ^ a > > --- So if i inspect the rawSourceRanges:.. > (ExampleClass>>#method1) methodNode rawSourceRanges, I have a dictionary with the following keys: > a := 1 + (2 * 3). (AssignmentNode) --> 19 to 30 (so if i extract the characters from 19 to 30 in the sourceText I obtain the AssignmentNode text) > 1 + (2 * 3) (MessageNode) --> 24 to 30 > 2 * 3 - (MessageNode) --> 28 to 29 ( it is not logic to have an interval for 2 characters if 2*3 (without spaces) has 3 characters. > ^ a (ReturnNode) --> 34 to 35. > > > So the ASsignmentNode and ReturnNode have their corresponding sourceText interval but from MessageNodes, I cannot see the same. > Can anyone of you explain me why or if it is a bug? > If you would like to watch a little more, the sourceRanges is filled in the Encoder class, when the Parser is parsing a method. > > thanks

Nov. 6, 2013

Spec - TextModel whenTextIsAccepted

by Bahman Movaqar

Hi all, I'm writing a simple graphical version of the legendary "Hello, world". I have a window with a text field, a button and a label. What I'm trying to do is to make the button (which is initially disabled) enabled upon user entering text. However, it seems that the user first must "Accept" the text for the action to be fired. Here's some snippets of code: <code> initializePresenter textName whenTextChanged: [ buttonGreet enable ]. buttonGreet action: [ labelGreeting text: 'Hello, ', textName text, '!'. buttonGreet disable ]. initializeWidgets self instantiateModels: #( textName TextModel labelGreeting LabelModel buttonGreet ButtonModel ). labelGreeting text: ''. buttonGreet label: 'Greet Me!'; disable. </code> What am I doing wrong? TIA, PS: I have tried `whenTextChanged` to no avail --it shows the same behaviour. -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 6, 2013

rawSourceRanges in Encoder class question

by Gabriel Bursztyn

Hi guys, I am new in this list.I have a question related to the sourceRanges dictionary in Encoder class. I can see every compiled method has each corresponding methodNode, which is an instance of a ParseNode child class. Every methodNode is formed by different parts represented by other classes also children of ParseNode, like AssignmentNode or MessageNode. when you decompile the method into the MethodNode, the Encoder instance saves the intervals corresponding to each of these parts. It not saves all the parts, just the AssignmentNode, MessageNode and ReturnNode. (other intervals like the ones corresponding to TempVariableNodes for instance are not saved). The weird thing is that it saves the intervals for the MessageNodes but for some reason they do not corresponds to the positions in the sourceText method (property of MethodNode). I read that this sourceRanges is used for debugging purposes, and I hadn't issues debugging my code. I do not know if it is a bug or I do not understand well the Parser class.I am using Pharo 2.0 and this code is also in squeak and cuis versions as well.Example: I have created an example class with the following method:ExampleClass>>#method1:method1 | a | a := 1 + (2 * 3). ^ a --- So if i inspect the rawSourceRanges:.. (ExampleClass>>#method1) methodNode rawSourceRanges, I have a dictionary with the following keys: a := 1 + (2 * 3). (AssignmentNode) --> 19 to 30 (so if i extract the characters from 19 to 30 in the sourceText I obtain the AssignmentNode text) 1 + (2 * 3) (MessageNode) --> 24 to 30 2 * 3 - (MessageNode) --> 28 to 29 ( it is not logic to have an interval for 2 characters if 2*3 (without spaces) has 3 characters. ^ a (ReturnNode) --> 34 to 35. So the ASsignmentNode and ReturnNode have their corresponding sourceText interval but from MessageNodes, I cannot see the same. Can anyone of you explain me why or if it is a bug? If you would like to watch a little more, the sourceRanges is filled in the Encoder class, when the Parser is parsing a method. thanks

Nov. 6, 2013

Adjusting the size of a window using Spec

by nacho

Continuing with my testing to learn Spec, I'm trying to build a really basic calculator. So far I managed to build the basic UI. However, I'm having some trouble at getting it displayed at the correct size. I don't know how to change the window that is opened when #ClassName new openWithSpec It seems that all the examples are opened with the same size. The image on the left is the "default" one, the one on the right is what I would like to get. I've tried by changing the width: of the column but that doesn't change the size of the window. I'm kind of stuck! thanks cheers Nacho <http://forum.world.st/file/n4719478/calc.jpg> ----- Nacho Smalltalker apprentice. Buenos Aires, Argentina. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Adjusting-the-size-of-a-window-using-Spec-tp4719478.h… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 6, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 3.0.0.dmg for Mac OSX

by Joachim Tuchel

Bruce, Try opening it once with ctrl+click and answer the following answer withYES. The DMg most probably is okay, this is a new OS X feature. Joachim Am 05.11.2013 um 19:03 schrieb Bruce Prior <b.prior(a)ieee.org>: > Hi Damien, > I tried your .dmg file on my iMac running OS 10.9 (Mavericks). It didn't work. The error message is "Pharo.app is damaged and can't be opened." A second download and retry gave the same result.

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by kilon alios

ah thank you , it worked like charm :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:07 PM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski < 0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > You can always check in System > Settings to automatically download > sources when needed. > cheers. > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA * > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the >> point. Well done Damien. >> >> The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and >> launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources >> necessary for running the image ? >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred KrÃ¶hnert < >> mkroehnert42(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> This looks really great! >>> Thanks for your efforts. >>> >>> Just a minor issue with the DMG itself. >>> When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window. >>> See attached image. >>> >>> Best, >>> Manfred >>> >>> [image: Inline image 1] >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >>>> > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that >>>> you're >>>> > missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough >>>> > contributions. >>>> >>>> >>>> and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Damien Cassou >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>> >>>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>>> losing enthusiasm." >>>> Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Wiki PetitParser

by Sean P. DeNigris

Is there a parser for Wiki (i.e. Wikipedia) syntax somewhere> Thanks... ----- Cheers, Sean -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Wiki-PetitParser-tp4719456.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

You can always check in System > Settings to automatically download sources when needed. cheers. *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 5:04 PM, kilon alios <kilon.alios(a)gmail.com> wrote: > This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the point. > Well done Damien. > > The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and > launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources > necessary for running the image ? > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred KrÃ¶hnert < > mkroehnert42(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >> This looks really great! >> Thanks for your efforts. >> >> Just a minor issue with the DMG itself. >> When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window. >> See attached image. >> >> Best, >> Manfred >> >> [image: Inline image 1] >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >>> > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're >>> > missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough >>> > contributions. >>> >>> >>> and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you. >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >>> losing enthusiasm." >>> Winston Churchill >>> >>> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by kilon alios

This is very good job. Looks polished, easy to use, straight to the point. Well done Damien. The one side effect I see, is that when an image is downloaded and launched Pharo complains that it cant find the sources. Are sources necessary for running the image ? On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Manfred KrÃ¶hnert < mkroehnert42(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > This looks really great! > Thanks for your efforts. > > Just a minor issue with the DMG itself. > When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window. > See attached image. > > Best, > Manfred > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: >> > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're >> > missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough >> > contributions. >> >> >> and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you. >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without >> losing enthusiasm." >> Winston Churchill >> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Pharo 3.0.0.dmg for Mac OSX

by Bruce Prior

Hi Damien, I tried your .dmg file on my iMac running OS 10.9 (Mavericks). It didn't work. The error message is "Pharo.app is damaged and can't be opened." A second download and retry gave the same result.

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Manfred KrÃ¶hnert

This looks really great! Thanks for your efforts. Just a minor issue with the DMG itself. When I opened it on OS X 10.6.8 the lower text was cut off by the window. See attached image. Best, Manfred [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're > > missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough > > contributions. > > > and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you. > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Damien Cassou

On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:01 PM, <btc(a)openinworld.com> wrote: > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're > missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough > contributions. and you have been very good at doing them. Thank you. -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Looking for camera(wo)man FOSDEM2014 Smalltalk devroom

by Stephan Eggermont

FranÃ§ois wrote: >Hi Stephan, > >If you still need someone, I can help ;) Yes please. Two-four more people would be ideal. Cheers, Stephan

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Esteban Lorenzano

the system is exporting CVS and PDFs... I didn't had the time to read/write XLS (which is an ridiculous difficult format). the cool part was that I used magritte to produce the reports, so it was pretty easy :) Esteban On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski < 0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Esteban, > Congratulations. That looks great! > How do you integrate with spreadsheets? Using CVS or directly reading from > .xls or .odf? > Cheers > Nacho > > > > > *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some work), >> as you can see here: >> >> http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: >> >>> Here: >>> >>> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph >>> >>> Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. >>> >>> It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. >>> http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 >>> >>> Phil >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>>> > >>>> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >>>> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >>>> > development) >>>> >>>> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >>>> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >>>> > not covering all you may need in an application). >>>> > >>>> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >>>> > Magritte Morphic working. >>>> > >>>> >>>> Where can I follow his work? >>>> >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >>>> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi, >>>> > >>>> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >>>> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >>>> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >>>> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >>>> > >>>> > Alain >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar < >>>> Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >>>> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Hi all, >>>> > >>>> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, >>>> modal >>>> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >>>> > should I >>>> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >>>> >>>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >>>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

Esteban, Congratulations. That looks great! How do you integrate with spreadsheets? Using CVS or directly reading from .xls or .odf? Cheers Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com>wrote: > I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some work), > as you can see here: > > http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > >> Here: >> http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph >> >> Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. >> >> It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. >> http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 >> >> Phil >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: >> >>> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >>> > >>> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >>> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >>> > development) >>> >>> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >>> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >>> >>> > >>> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >>> > not covering all you may need in an application). >>> > >>> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >>> > Magritte Morphic working. >>> > >>> >>> Where can I follow his work? >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >>> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >>> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >>> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >>> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >>> > >>> > Alain >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >>> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hi all, >>> > >>> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, >>> modal >>> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >>> > should I >>> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >>> >>> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >>> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >>> >>> >>> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Benjamin

On 05 Nov 2013, at 14:01, btc(a)openinworld.com wrote: > MartinW wrote: >> >> "Damien Cassouâ wrote >> >>> I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try >>> it and report problems: >>> >> >> Works fine on 10.8.5. >> But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called âPharoâ, so >> perhaps you should rename the launcher to âPharo Launcherâ or something like >> this? >> >> AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the >> UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window? This can be done with any Spec-based UI by opening it with #openWorldWithSpec Ben > Have a look PhLDeploymentScript #doAll and #undoAll. It was quite enlightening to discover how it works. > In addition, I think PharoLauncher is a great showcase for anyone wanting to see how Spec is used in practice. Its not too large and the code is well designed and accessible. As my first exposure to Spec I found it reasonably straightforward to extend PharoLauncher to add a few of those features you are looking at. > >> And one can even change to and from âDeveloper Modeâ easily via settings. > Glad you like it. So now is your chance to add any feature that you're missing ;). Damien has been very good at polishing my own rough contributions. > > cheers -ben >> Best regards, >> Martin. >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FEEDBACK-Install-Pharo-on-MacOSX-tp4719307p4719320.ht… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by btc＠openinworld.com

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by btc＠openinworld.com

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Esteban Lorenzano

I also have used Glamour+Magritte with success (but certainly some work), as you can see here: http://smallworks.eu/web/projects/lawsuitTracker On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:13 AM, phil(a)highoctane.be <phil(a)highoctane.be>wrote: > Here: > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph > > Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. > > It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. > http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 > > Phil > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com>wrote: > >> On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: >> > >> > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a >> > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing >> > development) >> >> Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a >> front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. >> >> > >> > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is >> > not covering all you may need in an application). >> > >> > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a >> > Magritte Morphic working. >> > >> >> Where can I follow his work? >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com >> > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a >> > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more >> > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read >> > it carefully if there exists one ;-) >> > >> > Alain >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com >> > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: >> > >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal >> > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where >> > should I >> > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >> > >> >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> >> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi Luc, Smalltalk vm version reports: 'NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-EstebanLorenzano.18 uuid: a53445f9-c0c0-4015-97a3-be7db8d9ed6b Mar 13 2013 git://gitorious.org/cogvm/blessed.git Commit: 412abef33cbed05cf1d75329e451d71c0c6aa5a7 Date: 2013-03-13 17:48:50 +0100 By: Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> Jenkins build #14535 ' It's the one listed as "latest" at the downloads section in pharo-project.org Cheers, Bernat. 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> > > > 2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi Bernat, >> >> Which VM version? >> because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. >> So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. >> but I have not tried. >> > > yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. > > >> >> do you use the right protName? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Luc >> >> >> 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to >>> deal with hardware it seems... >>> >>> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest >>> stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >>> >>> *PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: >>> in SerialPort failed* >>> >>> >>> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing >>> it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Bernat. >>> >>> -- >>> Bernat Romagosa. >>> >> >> > -- Bernat Romagosa.

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Luc Fabresse

2013/11/5 Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> > Hi Bernat, > > Which VM version? > because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. > So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. > but I have not tried. > yes we only use Linux here for serial stuff. > > do you use the right protName? > > Cheers, > > Luc > > > 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > >> Hi list, >> >> Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to >> deal with hardware it seems... >> >> So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest >> stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: >> >> *PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: >> in SerialPort failed* >> >> >> The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing >> it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? >> >> Cheers, >> Bernat. >> >> -- >> Bernat Romagosa. >> > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Luc Fabresse

Hi Bernat, Which VM version? because MacOsX and Linux now use the same C part of the SerialPlugin. So if it works on Linux, it be the same on OsX. but I have not tried. do you use the right protName? Cheers, Luc 2013/11/5 Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > Hi list, > > Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to > deal with hardware it seems... > > So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable > VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: > > *PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in > SerialPort failed* > > > The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's > a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? > > Cheers, > Bernat. > > -- > Bernat Romagosa. >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski

It works perfectly, so far. Nice the addition of Pharo Launcher!. cheers Nacho *Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA* On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, > > I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try > it and report problems: > > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/art… > > Best, > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] I would rather pay for Smalltalkhub than use Github for free.

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

+1 Projects are not only source code anymore. Most of my projects have a gazillion of images, javascript, CSS files, etc. Storing all those external files in .mcz packages is not scalable (and not even elegant). FileTree+Git, while not ideal, solve the issue quite nicely. And you don't need Github anyway... On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 2013-11-03, at 15:52, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > > > Kilon wrote > >> I take a look at previous experiments like squeaksource and I find > little justification to not support Github. But then I am not against > Smalltalkhub or other >repos being available to Pharo. The more the merrier. > > > > I see some very strong arguments against depending on github: > > - it is centralized infrastructure, essentially unsuitable for use with > a distributed version control system; > > - it doesnât support working at the right granularity; > > - the smalltalk community is too small to have any influence on the > directions github is taking. > > It is a commercial organization that can decide to do something we > donât like at any time. > > It is free, so we are the product. Just take a look at sourceforge; > > - we can do much better than github (but donât have enough time). We > should be using a P2P, > > bittorrent like system for version control. > > github != git and whether we use github or now does not matter at all. > What matters is that we use technology that is robust and that we have a > versioning > system that works decentralized. All of that is solved by git. > > With filetree we have the proper granularity (methods) > With github we have an awesome website, such as we have an aweseome > website with smalltalkhub, execpt that monticello should be modernized. > Sadly the community is too small to achieve that, and inventing yet another > versioning tool/system won't help on the short run. Maybe, yes someday in > the future we can have our own fancy fully object-oriented versioning > system, but IMO that is wasted effort, as git/mercurial come very close to > something ideal. > > I am happy to give more insight into git, because I think you have quite a > wrong picture about it :) > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by MartinW

"Damien Cassouâ wrote > I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try > it and report problems: Works fine on 10.8.5. But in my Applications Folder is already the Pharo VM called âPharoâ, so perhaps you should rename the launcher to âPharo Launcherâ or something like this? AND, the Launcher looks great! Did you describe somewhere, how you made the UI so that it fills the whole Pharo Window? And one can even change to and from âDeveloper Modeâ easily via settings. I only deployed a Pharo Desktop application once - and with great pain - and your way of doing things might be extremly useful to others! Please write a blogpost about it or a chapter for one of the Pharo books :) Best regards, Martin. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/FEEDBACK-Install-Pharo-on-MacOSX-tp4719307p4719320.ht… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] [FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Norbert Hartl

Wow! That is really great and it works like with an other application. Awesome! Norbert Am 05.11.2013 um 11:18 schrieb Damien Cassou <damien.cassou(a)gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try > it and report problems: > > https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/art… > > Best, > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without > losing enthusiasm." > Winston Churchill >

Nov. 5, 2013

SerialPlugin on MacOS

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi list, Developing a multi-platform application is not so easy when you have to deal with hardware it seems... So I'm having this PrimitiveFailed error on MacOS, using the latest stable VM listed on the pharo-project website on Pharo20: *PrimitiveFailed: primitive #primWritePortByName:from:startingAt:count: in SerialPort failed* The same code works fine both in Gnu/Linux and Win32, so I'm guessing it's a problem with the serial plugin included in this VM. Any ideas? Cheers, Bernat. -- Bernat Romagosa.

Nov. 5, 2013

[FEEDBACK] Install Pharo on MacOSX

by Damien Cassou

Hi, I've just made a .dmg file for installing Pharo on MacOSX. Please try it and report problems: https://ci.inria.fr/pharo-contribution/job/PharoLauncher-Mac-Package/16/art… Best, -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." Winston Churchill

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Here: http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Magritte/Magritte3/packages/Magritte-Morph Ah Fossil, good thing. Sqlite creator's all in one DVCS. It is what is used for another language I like: Tcl. http://www2.tcl.tk/36711 Phil On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > > > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a > > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing > > development) > > Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a > front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. > > > > > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is > > not covering all you may need in an application). > > > > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a > > Magritte Morphic working. > > > > Where can I follow his work? > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com > > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a > > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more > > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read > > it carefully if there exists one ;-) > > > > Alain > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com > > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal > > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where > > should I > > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? > > > > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] [Seaside] Looking for camera(wo)man FOSDEM2014 Smalltalk devroom

by FranÃ§ois Stephany

Hi Stephan, If you still need someone, I can help ;) On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Stephan Eggermont <stephan(a)stack.nl> wrote: > Who is coming to FOSDEM2014 and is willing to help recording one or more > sessions > at the Smalltalk devroom? Instructions and equipment are provided. > > Thanks, > Stephan Eggermont_______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > seaside(a)lists.squeakfoundation.org > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by ClÃ©ment Bera

I added the issue with a slice in inbox. 2013/11/5 Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> > > On 05 Nov 2013, at 10:19, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > The method that exists is #withArgs:executeMethod: so replace > > "executeMethod: someCode" ==> by ==> "withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: > someCode" > > or create the method: > > Object>>executeMethod: compiledMethod > > ^ self withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: compiledMethod > > Then it should work. > > > > I think the easiest is to add back that methodsâ¦ I really do not like to > have an API on Object > for executing methods (is should be in Methodâ¦), but as the primitive is > there now, it is not > easy to change. > > I all add issues for 2.0 and 3. > > Marcus > > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by Marcus Denker

On 05 Nov 2013, at 10:19, ClÃ©ment Bera <bera.clement(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > The method that exists is #withArgs:executeMethod: so replace > "executeMethod: someCode" ==> by ==> "withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: someCode" > or create the method: > Object>>executeMethod: compiledMethod > ^ self withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: compiledMethod > Then it should work. > I think the easiest is to add back that methodsâ¦ I really do not like to have an API on Object for executing methods (is should be in Methodâ¦), but as the primitive is there now, it is not easy to change. I all add issues for 2.0 and 3. Marcus

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/05/2013 12:48, ClÃ©ment Bera wrote: > Hello, > > The method that exists is #withArgs:executeMethod: so replace > "executeMethod: someCode" ==> by ==> "withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: > someCode" > or create the method: > Object>>executeMethod: compiledMethod > ^ self withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: compiledMethod > Then it should work. > > You're the second one to ask that question I will make a fix. Are you > in Pharo 2 or Pharo 3 ? Pharo 2.0. It's certainly not a stopper as one can always do <code>ProfStef next.</code>. However since the lesson is about reflection, it somehow feels weird :-) > > #perform: is different. #perform: takes a selector as argument and the > lookup will find out the method to execute, whereas executeMethod: > directly run a method with no lookup (which can lead to a crash if the > receiver cannot run properly this method). > > > > 2013/11/5 Joachim Tuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de > <mailto:jtuchel@objektfabrik.de>> > > Hi, > > I am not sure whether Pharo implements or once implemented a > special method like executeMethod: but in Smalltalk the selector > for sending a message to an object is #perform: so you should > probably try to replace #executeMethod with #perform: . > But I am sure somebody more familiar with ProfStef and Pharo will > comment on your issue more specifically. > > HTH, > > Joachim > > Am 05.11.13 07:36, schrieb Bahman Movaqar: > > Hi all, > > Reading ProfStef at lesson 25 (Reflections), when I try to run > the last > statement <code>ProfStef default executeMethod: (ProfStef > lookupSelector:#next).</code>, the error pops up saying > <error>Unknown > selector executeMethod:</error>. Am I doing anything wrong? > -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Bahman Movaqar

On 11/05/2013 11:46, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > > If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a > web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing > development) Of course. However this is not a business application. It's a front-end to a DVCS named Fossil. > > Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is > not covering all you may need in an application). > > You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a > Magritte Morphic working. > Where can I follow his work? > > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com > <mailto:alain.busser@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a > tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more > "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read > it carefully if there exists one ;-) > > Alain > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com > <mailto:Bahman@bahmanm.com>> wrote: > > Hi all, > > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where > should I > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? > -- Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com)

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by ClÃ©ment Bera

Hello, The method that exists is #withArgs:executeMethod: so replace "executeMethod: someCode" ==> by ==> "withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: someCode" or create the method: Object>>executeMethod: compiledMethod ^ self withArgs: #( ) executeMethod: compiledMethod Then it should work. You're the second one to ask that question I will make a fix. Are you in Pharo 2 or Pharo 3 ? #perform: is different. #perform: takes a selector as argument and the lookup will find out the method to execute, whereas executeMethod: directly run a method with no lookup (which can lead to a crash if the receiver cannot run properly this method). 2013/11/5 Joachim Tuchel <jtuchel(a)objektfabrik.de> > Hi, > > I am not sure whether Pharo implements or once implemented a special > method like executeMethod: but in Smalltalk the selector for sending a > message to an object is #perform: so you should probably try to replace > #executeMethod with #perform: . > But I am sure somebody more familiar with ProfStef and Pharo will comment > on your issue more specifically. > > HTH, > > Joachim > > Am 05.11.13 07:36, schrieb Bahman Movaqar: > > Hi all, >> >> Reading ProfStef at lesson 25 (Reflections), when I try to run the last >> statement <code>ProfStef default executeMethod: (ProfStef >> lookupSelector:#next).</code>, the error pops up saying <error>Unknown >> selector executeMethod:</error>. Am I doing anything wrong? >> >> TIA, >> >> > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Shortcut to "Browse Class"

by Norbert Hartl

> Am 05.11.2013 um 09:11 schrieb "phil(a)highoctane.be" <phil(a)highoctane.be>: > > OSX: Cmd-DoubleClick on the name For me it works with a single click Norbert > Win: Select the name, Ctrl-Enter > > Both: Cmd-b / Alt-b (the letters on the right of the menu entries are the shortcuts (screenshot attached for Pharo2.0, there have been changes in 3.0) > > Also: OSX: Cmd-n Cmd-m / Win: Alt-n Alt-m (Senders of it, Implentors of it) > > Also have a look at the downward pointing triangle at the top right of the browser (Nautilus) and check the shortcuts list in the menu. > > Phil > > <05-11-13 09-09-50.png> > > >> On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> As an absolute beginner, when using a workspace, most of the times I >> don't know the type of the value returned by a piece of code or its >> methods. So I have to select the value, right-click on it, from the >> menu (BTW is there a name for this menu?), select "Explore" and then >> select "Browse Class" or "Browse Full". Is there a shortcut to this >> functionality? >> >> TIA, >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by Marcus Denker

On 05 Nov 2013, at 09:52, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > On 05 Nov 2013, at 07:36, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > >> executeMethod: ( > > Hello, > > we removed #executeMethod: on Object because it makes no sense as there is an API on the method > for that already. (a good hint for that is that it had no users). > > When you want to execute a method directly (not via sending a method), what you have to do: > > 1) get the method object. > 2) tell it to execute itself with #valueWithReceiver:arguments: > > so for example: > > (Object compiledMethodAt: #halt) valueWithReceiver: nil arguments: #() > and there still is withArgs: argArray executeMethod: compiledMethod For Object (which is a primitive) Marcus

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ProfStef, Lesson 25 - Unknown selector

by Marcus Denker

On 05 Nov 2013, at 07:36, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > executeMethod: ( Hello, we removed #executeMethod: on Object because it makes no sense as there is an API on the method for that already. (a good hint for that is that it had no users). When you want to execute a method directly (not via sending a method), what you have to do: 1) get the method object. 2) tell it to execute itself with #valueWithReceiver:arguments: so for example: (Object compiledMethodAt: #halt) valueWithReceiver: nil arguments: #() We should update ProfStef Marcus

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by phil＠highoctane.be

If you want to do a business application, well, I'd use Seaside and a web based UI. (that's the current conclusion for my own ongoing development) Otherwise, Spec (which is in a state of flux), or Morphic (which is not covering all you may need in an application). You can also follow the work of Sean De Nigris who is trying to get a Magritte Morphic working. Phil On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a tutorial for > absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more "where could we find > such a tutorial?". And of course I will read it carefully if there exists > one ;-) > > Alain > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal >> dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where should I >> start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? >> >> TIA, >> >> -- >> Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) >> >> ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant >> PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) >> >> >> >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Multicolumn text view with spec

by Benjamin

I think MultiColumnList was already supported in 2.0 :) Ben On 05 Nov 2013, at 00:06, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: > > > Am 04.11.2013 um 23:09 schrieb Benjamin <Benjamin.VanRyseghem.Pharo(a)gmail.com>: > >> An old version of spec is usable in 2.0 >> >> The 3.0 version is _far_ better. >> > Of course :) But I like to do things I can use in production. So for people like me the newest is only an option if I do prototyping. > > Norbert > >> You may want to use MultiColumnListModel (itâs the widget used in the senders/implementors UI) >> Otherwise, you can indeed use the scroll sync example to sync to lists together. >> >> Ben >> >> On 04 Nov 2013, at 18:59, Ignacio MatÃas Sniechowski <0800nacho(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes I'm referring to Pharo 3, try with the latest image. >>> It should be there...if you can't find it let me know. >>> cheers >>> >>> >>> Lic. Ignacio Sniechowski, MBA >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert(a)hartl.name> wrote: >>> >>> >>> > Am 04.11.2013 um 14:50 schrieb nacho <0800nacho(a)gmail.com>: >>> > >>> > You can take a look at ComposableModel>>#ScrollSyncExample >>> > >>> > Try: >>> > >>> > ScrollSyncExample new openWithSpec >>> > >>> > I guess that's what you need. >>> > >>> thanks, but I don't have them in my image. You were refering to a 3.0 image? >>> Is spec usable in 2.0? >>> >>> Norbert >>> > cheers >>> > Nacho >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Multicolumn-text-view-with-spec-tp4719050p4719129.html >>> > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> > >>> >>> >>> <test.tiff> >>

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Benjamin

Some spec documentation can be found here: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?W71 Otherwise there is an Example package in Spec :) There are also some example methods on Spec classes :) And then you can ask question here, I ill always reply :) Ben On 05 Nov 2013, at 08:36, Alain Busser <alain.busser(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read it carefully if there exists one ;-) > > Alain > > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where should I > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Shortcut to "Browse Class"

by phil＠highoctane.be

OSX: Cmd-DoubleClick on the name Win: Select the name, Ctrl-Enter Both: Cmd-b / Alt-b (the letters on the right of the menu entries are the shortcuts (screenshot attached for Pharo2.0, there have been changes in 3.0) Also: OSX: Cmd-n Cmd-m / Win: Alt-n Alt-m (Senders of it, Implentors of it) Also have a look at the downward pointing triangle at the top right of the browser (Nautilus) and check the shortcuts list in the menu. Phil [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > As an absolute beginner, when using a workspace, most of the times I > don't know the type of the value returned by a piece of code or its > methods. So I have to select the value, right-click on it, from the > menu (BTW is there a name for this menu?), select "Explore" and then > select "Browse Class" or "Browse Full". Is there a shortcut to this > functionality? > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Shortcut to "Browse Class"

by Benjamin

If you select a class name in the workspace, you can do Cmd+b/ctrl+b to browse it. Otherwise you can send browse to any object to browse its class :) Ben On 05 Nov 2013, at 06:55, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)BahmanM.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > As an absolute beginner, when using a workspace, most of the times I > don't know the type of the value returned by a piece of code or its > methods. So I have to select the value, right-click on it, from the > menu (BTW is there a name for this menu?), select "Explore" and then > select "Browse Class" or "Browse Full". Is there a shortcut to this > functionality? > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Writing a GUI - Where to start?

by Alain Busser

Hi, as I have a similar need, I guess what you are aiming at is a tutorial for absolute beginners in Spec, so the question is more "where could we find such a tutorial?". And of course I will read it carefully if there exists one ;-) Alain On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Bahman Movaqar <Bahman(a)bahmanm.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > I need to build a typical GUI application (menus, buttons, modal > dialogs, ...). I'd appreciate if you could point me to where should I > start and what are the choices for a UI framework in Pharo? > > TIA, > > -- > Bahman Movaqar (http://BahmanM.com) > > ERP Evaluation, Implementation & Deployment Consultant > PGP Key ID: 0x6AB5BD68 (keyserver2.pgp.com) > > >

Nov. 5, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] ImageMorph scaling

by Camillo Bruni

Check what magic Ben applied for the Morph Inspector: `World inspect` then switch to morph view. On 2013-11-05, at 05:04, Sean P. DeNigris <sean(a)clipperadams.com> wrote: > How would I get an ImageMorph to automatically resize inside a Spec UI? I put > it in a PanelMorph with various layout attempts, the latest being: > image := PanelMorph new > changeTableLayout; > hResizing: #spaceFill; > vResizing: #spaceFill; > yourself. > > Where image above is an accessor referenced in #spec > > Then I added: > imageMorph := ImageMorph new > image: form; > hResizing: #spaceFill; > vResizing: #spaceFill; > yourself. > > image addMorph: imageMorph. > > The form shows up as the full original size, but strangely if I bring up the > halos on the ImageMorph and just wiggle the scaling halo, it resizes to fit > the PanelMorph. But then if I resize the window again, the image doesn't > rescale. > > Thanks. > > > > ----- > Cheers, > Sean > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/ImageMorph-scaling-tp4719248.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

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