January 2013 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?

by Geert Claes

I did a quick Google and found this Squeak Heroku Buildpack: https://github.com/frankshearar/smalltalk-heroku-buildpack -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Phaas-anyone-interested-in-setting-up-Pharo-as-a-Serv… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi guys I'm really interested in seeing this egg/chicken problem solved by getting something out the ground. for the visibility of Pharo and smalltalk in general. So I would love to see some proposals and some budgets to see how to Pharo association/ESUG/Consortium/other companies could put money on the table to get started. Stef > >> My friend pays $350 month for a bunch of apps, and considers it money well >> spent. I think that the developer community has a tendency to compare the >> price of of services with the price of open source software (free) and >> assume that no-one will pay. In the commercial world though, the comparison >> is with what it would cost you for hosting PLUS sys admin.. which, for most >> organisations is both a pain in the ass and very expensive. > > Yes, any serious company making real money, will normally pay closer to $1000/month and often much more for infrastructure. > > Regarding Heroku, I guess it would be a manageable, realistic project to do a third-party build pack for Pharo Smalltalk, with interfaces to some of the underlying infrastructure (Glorp for PostgreSQL, memcached, maybe also ampq) and to integrate a bit in their ecosystem (logging, monitoring), using some base image containing the necessary libraries, with some vm+image on dynamo validation. > > There are many others (and thus examples): > > https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/third-party-buildpacks > > This does cost work and thus money. > > I know there are ways to monetize addons in the Heroku world, so that is a possibility as well. > > Sven > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > >

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Fwd: hey

by Geert Claes

The account also spammed on several other Smalltalk mailing lists. The user's email must be compromised because the account has been posting genuine Smalltalk posts on the mailing lists since late 2011. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/hey-tp4665836p4665842.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] tuesday we will do a coding sprint here at Santiago

by Sean P. DeNigris

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > We will do a coding sprint here at Santiago @ DCC (Pleaid building) > http://pleiad.dcc.uchile.cl What time is the sprint tomorrow? I want to join virtually from NYC... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/tuesday-we-will-do-a-coding-sprint-here-at-Santiago-t… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] petit parser

by Guillaume Larcheveque

look at PPExpressionParser class. it's designed for that and you have a great example in the class comment 2013/1/28 Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire.fernandes(a)gmail.com> > Hello > > I try to extent the example of the arithmetic evaluator[1], I don't > understand the magic underneath nor how you will make it works with > substraction. > > Changing method add to: > > add > ^ prod, ($+ asParser / $- asParser) trim, term > > > to parse mixture addition and substraction is wrong: > > parser parse: '1 - 2 + 6' -> #(1 $- #(2 $+ 6)) > > > The precedence is wrong. > > How will you make it work? It seems to me the way to handle precedence > in the example is not suited for extension > > Thanks > > Hilaire > > > > [1] http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/ > > > -- *Guillaume Larcheveque*

Jan. 28, 2013

Fwd: hey

by Marcus Denker

This is spam, I will remove the sender from the mailing list. Begin forwarded message: > From: dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> > Subject: [Pharo-users] hey > Date: January 28, 2013 2:09:04 PM GMT+01:00 > To: pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr > Reply-To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> > > almost cannot believe it..what do you think http://bit.ly/10Xlg73 > > > > dimitris

Jan. 28, 2013

hey

by dimitris chloupis

almost cannot believe it..what do you think http://bit.ly/10Xlg73 dimitris

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?

by Geert Claes

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > Yes, any serious company making real money, will normally pay closer to > $1000/month and often much more for infrastructure. I may be wrong but at those figures (i.e. 1k/month) there a lot of options, its more the smaller ones who have nowhere to go. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote > There are many others (and thus examples): > > https://devcenter.heroku.com/articles/third-party-buildpacks Redline Smalltalk is in the list I noticed. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Phaas-anyone-interested-in-setting-up-Pharo-as-a-Serv… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?

by Nick Smith

> "Regarding Heroku..." That is really interesting Sven. I am a newcomer here, so at present this is beyond my technical capabilities... but it would be wonderful to see Pharo on that list of third-party build packs and able to leverage their infrastructure. I imagine, really frictionless way of allowing folk to deploy and scale quickly. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Phaas-anyone-interested-in-setting-up-Pharo-as-a-Serv… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Jan. 28, 2013

Re: [Pharo-users] Phaas - anyone interested in setting up Pharo as a Service?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

What if we ask one of existing commercial PaaS providers to add Smalltalk among the languages of choice? This way we achieve one-click Smalltalk cloud apps the fastest way for sure. Right now I'm looking at AppFog http://www.appfog.com. This is CloudFoundry based PaaS provider over the Amazon, Rackspace and Azure IaaS providers. It supports also "unusual" languages like Erlang and Go [1], so maybe they are open for Smalltalk too. James, AppCloud is located in Portland, Gemstone as well, so you are neighbors :) Do you think it would be wise to make a contact with them to start discussing the possibilities? Best regards Janko [1] Languages and Runtimes https://docs.appfog.com/roadmap#langs Dne 28. 01. 2013 09:17, piÅ¡e Geert Claes: > While it is great that one can actually use Smalltalk in Cloud Foundry ... it > does require a lot of steps to get it going. Having said that reckon it > would be interresting to have an easy to use Pharo-as-a-Service. For > persistence maybe rely on things like MongoLab or MongoHQ so you don't have > to worry about that? > > > fstephany wrote >> http://programminggems.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/adding-smalltalk-to-cloud-f… >> >> http://programminggems.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/using-mysql-in-aida-on-phar… >> >> https://programminggems.wordpress.com/2012/02/28/using-mysql-from-smalltalk… >> >> Are the three articles describing it :) > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Phaas-anyone-interested-in-setting-up-Pharo-as-a-Serv… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Jan. 28, 2013