September 2012 - Pharo-users

[update 2.0] #20298

by Esteban Lorenzano

2.0.20298 --------- The following changes have been integrated: Issue 6651: left cursor key in PluggableTreeMorph is not to standards http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6651

Sept. 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo usage poll

by Mariano Martinez Peck

So...which were the results? On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 1:28 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Esteban. > Thanks for clarifying. For me it doesn't need to be perfect. Answering > polls is fun actually if you know how to enjoy. > So I'm looking forward to more questions :) > Cheers, > > HernÃ¡n > > > 2012/8/22 Esteban Lorenzano <estebanlm(a)gmail.com> > >> Hernan, >> >> There is always room for improvement, but I think you are missing the >> point here. >> Of course, the poll is narrow (*all* polls are)... We could collect more >> data, but there is no poll without a question to answer, and here the real >> question is "what for?" What questions do you want to answer when making a >> poll. And then, when you see narrowness, I see clarity: I just have three >> questions that want answered (well, and a "hidden" one, but that's for >> later :). In fact, two of your three examples of questions were present in >> my first draft, and I removed them because they didn't provide more insight >> in *my* questions, which are pretty straightforward. Yes, I missed some >> other interesting questions for what I'm looking for, e.g. "why are you >> still using an older version of Pharo?", but well... you cannot make it >> perfect :) >> Of course, everybody has their own questions, and of course, if you want >> a "pharo census", we need to make much more questions... but that was off >> what I was looking for :) >> >> Esteban >> >> ps: yes, we can prepare a "pharo census", that can be interesting >> information too, and I would really like to have your help on preparing >> it... but lets complete this one small poll first. >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:05 AM, HernÃ¡n Morales Durand < >> hernan.morales(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> 2012/8/22 Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> >> >>> or look at this form another perspective: >>> if you know how to make things better, improve them, what you waiting >>> for and not doing it in a first place? >>> >> >> I'm doing it, saying that a brief poll could be better is pushing Pharo >> developers to make things better. Don't you think so? >> >> >>> Pharo is open project after all. >>> Or at least, if you having a great idea but have no time/resources to >>> do it, why you don't proposing it or asking around who interested in >>> implementing it, but sitting there waiting to be asked .. >>> >>> >> Yes, I'd like to be asked for the right questions. Your questions tell me >> your interests much as your lack of questions. I'm proposing more accurate >> polls... like "which packages do you use often?", "which non-core >> Collection classes do you need more?", "do you use Traits?", etc. >> Nobody is obliged to answer any poll, if too many questions, you just >> don't answer :) >> >> HernÃ¡n >> >> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> HernÃ¡n Morales >> Institute of Veterinary Genetics. >> National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET). >> La Plata (1900), Buenos Aires, Argentina. >> Telephone: +54 (0221) 421-1799. >> Internal: 422 >> Fax: 425-7980 or 421-1799. >> >> >> > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

Sept. 20, 2012

[Screencast] Roassal, an agile visualization engine

by laurent laffont

Roassal graphically renders objects using short and expressive Smalltalk expressions. A large set of interaction are offered for a better user experience. Painting, brushing, interconnecting, zooming, drag and dropping will just make you more intimate with any arbitrary object model. Thank you Vanessa PeÃ±a ! http://www.pharocasts.com/2012/09/roassal.html Laurent

Sept. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec package

by Benjamin

Spec can be found on gemstone Gofer it gemsource:'Spec'; package: 'ConfigurationOfSpec'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfSpec) perform: #loadDefault About documentation, you can read: - a tech report: http://hal.inria.fr/docs/00/70/80/67/PDF/SpecTechReport.pdf - a paper with an example at the end of this proceeding: http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier?_s=oOhAZvObeKyruLCa You know also ask me as many questions as you want :) Good luck Ben On Sep 18, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Sean P. DeNigris wrote: > Ernesto Bossi wrote >> Hi, i'd like to know where can i get the lastest package for Spec in Pharo >> and some documentation/tutorials to get started with this framework? >> >> >> Thanks in advance > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-package-tp4647870p4647973.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] SourceCodeTourGuide

by HwaJong Oh

Hi, Peter I've got your image and figured your problem out. See the video link below http://screencast.com/t/NdYcmzPcM0J7 The cause of the problem was your default browser is Nautilus, which SourceCdoeTourGuide does not support Nautilus yet. Nautilus will be supported in the future. 2012. 9. 15., 1:44 AM, Peter K.H. Gragert wrote: > >Hallo (and how ma?) > No. that is not right. ìëíì¸ì? or ìë or ë°©ê°ë°©ê° >let me know if you can use this image in Pharo ;-) >Greetings > Peter > FILE ATTACHED: <Ephestos.1.zip> Please include you've included changes file and source file and VM file for better . P.S. If you don't mind, I would like to post this to the mailing list. Send me an e-mail with YES, if you approve. Best Regards HwaJong -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/SourceCodeTourGuide-tp4647010p4648038.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Spec package

by Sean P. DeNigris

Ernesto Bossi wrote > Hi, i'd like to know where can i get the lastest package for Spec in Pharo > and some documentation/tutorials to get started with this framework? > > > Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Spec-package-tp4647870p4647973.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Sept. 18, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Ping

by Bernat Romagosa

Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that. 2012/9/18 Robert Shiplett <grshiplett(a)gmail.com> > www.yahoo.com also accepts pings > > On 18 September 2012 06:58, Bernat Romagosa > <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Sven, > > > > so cool! Most of these things are actually the ones I need to test, so > > everything should be okay :) > > > > Thanks a lot! > > > > Bernat. > > > > 2012/9/18 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > >> > >> Hi Bernat, > >> > >> On 18 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Bernat Romagosa < > tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> > For now I'll go with my implementation and wait for Sven's fix. > >> > >> I fixed that this morning with the following commit: > >> > >> === > >> Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.303 > >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > >> Time: 18 September 2012, 10:03:40 am > >> UUID: 9f5a3863-fc08-470d-b8a1-d44169952a66 > >> Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.302 > >> > >> Refactored ZnNetworkingUtils>>#socketStreamToUrlDirectly: to honor/use > the > >> correct timeout both when doing a DNS lookup as well as during connect > by > >> using NetNameResolver directly as well as using > >> #openConnectionToHost:port:timeout: > >> === > >> > >> Something like this should work: > >> > >> [ [ (ZnClient new > >> beOneShot; > >> enforceHttpSuccess: true; > >> timeout: 1/10; > >> head: 'http://www.google.com') isNil ] on: Error do: [ false ] > ] > >> timeToRun. > >> > >> But be careful, you are testing many things here: > >> > >> - that you have network access > >> - that the hostname resolves (you can also specify an IP address to skp > >> this) > >> - that the host is reachable (that you can connect to it) > >> - that it allows an HTTP connection > >> - that it aswers to HEAD / > >> > >> HTH, > >> > >> Sven > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Sven Van Caekenberghe > >> http://stfx.eu > >> Smalltalk is the Red Pill > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bernat Romagosa. > > -- Bernat Romagosa.

Sept. 18, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Ping

by Robert Shiplett

www.yahoo.com also accepts pings On 18 September 2012 06:58, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Sven, > > so cool! Most of these things are actually the ones I need to test, so > everything should be okay :) > > Thanks a lot! > > Bernat. > > 2012/9/18 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> >> >> Hi Bernat, >> >> On 18 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> > For now I'll go with my implementation and wait for Sven's fix. >> >> I fixed that this morning with the following commit: >> >> === >> Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.303 >> Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe >> Time: 18 September 2012, 10:03:40 am >> UUID: 9f5a3863-fc08-470d-b8a1-d44169952a66 >> Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.302 >> >> Refactored ZnNetworkingUtils>>#socketStreamToUrlDirectly: to honor/use the >> correct timeout both when doing a DNS lookup as well as during connect by >> using NetNameResolver directly as well as using >> #openConnectionToHost:port:timeout: >> === >> >> Something like this should work: >> >> [ [ (ZnClient new >> beOneShot; >> enforceHttpSuccess: true; >> timeout: 1/10; >> head: 'http://www.google.com') isNil ] on: Error do: [ false ] ] >> timeToRun. >> >> But be careful, you are testing many things here: >> >> - that you have network access >> - that the hostname resolves (you can also specify an IP address to skp >> this) >> - that the host is reachable (that you can connect to it) >> - that it allows an HTTP connection >> - that it aswers to HEAD / >> >> HTH, >> >> Sven >> >> >> -- >> Sven Van Caekenberghe >> http://stfx.eu >> Smalltalk is the Red Pill >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Bernat Romagosa.

Sept. 18, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Ping

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi Sven, so cool! Most of these things are actually the ones I need to test, so everything should be okay :) Thanks a lot! Bernat. 2012/9/18 Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)stfx.eu> > Hi Bernat, > > On 18 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > For now I'll go with my implementation and wait for Sven's fix. > > I fixed that this morning with the following commit: > > === > Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.303 > Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe > Time: 18 September 2012, 10:03:40 am > UUID: 9f5a3863-fc08-470d-b8a1-d44169952a66 > Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.302 > > Refactored ZnNetworkingUtils>>#socketStreamToUrlDirectly: to honor/use the > correct timeout both when doing a DNS lookup as well as during connect by > using NetNameResolver directly as well as using > #openConnectionToHost:port:timeout: > === > > Something like this should work: > > [ [ (ZnClient new > beOneShot; > enforceHttpSuccess: true; > timeout: 1/10; > head: 'http://www.google.com') isNil ] on: Error do: [ false ] ] > timeToRun. > > But be careful, you are testing many things here: > > - that you have network access > - that the hostname resolves (you can also specify an IP address to skp > this) > - that the host is reachable (that you can connect to it) > - that it allows an HTTP connection > - that it aswers to HEAD / > > HTH, > > Sven > > > -- > Sven Van Caekenberghe > http://stfx.eu > Smalltalk is the Red Pill > > > > > -- Bernat Romagosa.

Sept. 18, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Ping

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Bernat, On 18 Sep 2012, at 11:42, Bernat Romagosa <tibabenfortlapalanca(a)gmail.com> wrote: > For now I'll go with my implementation and wait for Sven's fix. I fixed that this morning with the following commit: === Name: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.303 Author: SvenVanCaekenberghe Time: 18 September 2012, 10:03:40 am UUID: 9f5a3863-fc08-470d-b8a1-d44169952a66 Ancestors: Zinc-HTTP-SvenVanCaekenberghe.302 Refactored ZnNetworkingUtils>>#socketStreamToUrlDirectly: to honor/use the correct timeout both when doing a DNS lookup as well as during connect by using NetNameResolver directly as well as using #openConnectionToHost:port:timeout: === Something like this should work: [ [ (ZnClient new beOneShot; enforceHttpSuccess: true; timeout: 1/10; head: 'http://www.google.com') isNil ] on: Error do: [ false ] ] timeToRun. But be careful, you are testing many things here: - that you have network access - that the hostname resolves (you can also specify an IP address to skp this) - that the host is reachable (that you can connect to it) - that it allows an HTTP connection - that it aswers to HEAD / HTH, Sven -- Sven Van Caekenberghe http://stfx.eu Smalltalk is the Red Pill

Sept. 18, 2012