August 2012 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] HowTo not show a Debugger when calling deprecated methods in 1.4?

by GastÃ³n Dall' Oglio

done. http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=6624 2012/8/31 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > we should log that in a bug entry > gentlemen. > > On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > > > On 31 August 2012 15:16, Helene Bilbo > > <thereluctantprogrammer(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > >> In #14459 i set > >> > >> *Deprecation showWarning:*, and *Deprecation raiseWarning:* both to > false, > >> > >> but nevertheless a Debugger pops up, whenever i call a deprecated > method. > >> > >> Is this intended or a bug? Is there another way to turn this behavior > off? > >> > > yeah.. just erase everything in #defaultAction ;) > > probably its a bug. > > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/HowTo-not-show-a-Debugger-when-calling-deprecated-met… > >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Igor Stasenko. > > > > >

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] HowTo not show a Debugger when calling deprecated methods in 1.4?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

we should log that in a bug entry gentlemen. On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 31 August 2012 15:16, Helene Bilbo > <thereluctantprogrammer(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: >> In #14459 i set >> >> *Deprecation showWarning:*, and *Deprecation raiseWarning:* both to false, >> >> but nevertheless a Debugger pops up, whenever i call a deprecated method. >> >> Is this intended or a bug? Is there another way to turn this behavior off? >> > yeah.. just erase everything in #defaultAction ;) > probably its a bug. > >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/HowTo-not-show-a-Debugger-when-calling-deprecated-met… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. >

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] HowTo not show a Debugger when calling deprecated methods in 1.4?

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 15:16, Helene Bilbo <thereluctantprogrammer(a)fastmail.fm> wrote: > In #14459 i set > > *Deprecation showWarning:*, and *Deprecation raiseWarning:* both to false, > > but nevertheless a Debugger pops up, whenever i call a deprecated method. > > Is this intended or a bug? Is there another way to turn this behavior off? > yeah.. just erase everything in #defaultAction ;) probably its a bug. > > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/HowTo-not-show-a-Debugger-when-calling-deprecated-met… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] NativeBoost external structure with char[] rather than char*

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 16:16, Guy Hylton <guygantuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On 31 August 2012 15:03, Guy Hylton <guygantuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > I am looking for some NativeBoost advice on the best way of using a >> > structure with an containing a char array like the following: >> > >> > int level >> > int number >> > char[256] msgText >> > ulong elapsedTime >> > >> > Currently I am using an NBExternalAddress returned by >> > NativeBoost>>allocate: >> > because the external library holds onto the address and using byteAt: to >> > see >> > what is going on in the structure while I get used to the external >> > library >> > API. >> > >> > I can think of a couple of options, create my own NBExternalType >> > subclass >> > which I can use in an NBExternalStructure or subclass >> > NBExternalAddress/Object with methods to extract the appropriate data, >> > or >> > have I missed the simple solution? >> > >> >> well, there's no array-types support.. >> so, what you can do is to place dummy fields instead of array.. i.e. >> >> int level >> int number >> char msgText1 >> char msgText2 >> ... >> char msgText256 >> >> ulong elapsedTime >> >> which should do the trick. >> >> (of course, not necessary to use chars, you can use ints, so it will >> be only 64 dummies instead of 256 ;) >> >> And of course a better way of doing that is to create a special >> NBExternalType subclass , lets say NBExternalTypeArray >> which takes a basic type and number of elements. >> And it should answer correct #instanceSize and other related things, >> as well as implement methods for pushing/storing and reading the >> values of such type. > > > A subclass of NBExternalType looked like the better option when looking > through the existing classes for a solution but I wasn't sure that I was > ready to start writing assembler. > You can always try and see what you get. Assembler is pretty dumb thing. Each instruction doing something , so if you put them in right order, there's little space for faults. Unlike from C, where you can put things in right order (making compiler happy), but leave a bugs which can sit there undiscovered for years :) > I already feel like one of the Sorcerers Apprentices just using NativeBoost > to interface to an external library, let alone adding some assembler > incantations to my own spells :-). > Hehe.. Well, you cannot avoid some sorcery when using FFI. >> >> I will work on adding that in closest days. > > > That would be great! In the meantime I will have a go at writing my own > NBExternalType subclass to handle the specific situation I have come across; > NBExternalString>>coerceReturnValue: looks like a good place to start. Even > if I don't get very far it will hopefully help me understand your solution. > Also look for NBExternalStructureType, like #pushAsValue: . >> >> It is not too hard to implement ;) > > > No, not for a first class wizard :-) > sure, i don't expect that you will be able to start hacking assembler from beginning, but as soon as you get some basics, you can do the same or even better :) -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] NativeBoost external structure with char[] rather than char*

by Guy Hylton

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 31 August 2012 15:03, Guy Hylton <guygantuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am looking for some NativeBoost advice on the best way of using a > > structure with an containing a char array like the following: > > > > int level > > int number > > char[256] msgText > > ulong elapsedTime > > > > Currently I am using an NBExternalAddress returned by > NativeBoost>>allocate: > > because the external library holds onto the address and using byteAt: to > see > > what is going on in the structure while I get used to the external > library > > API. > > > > I can think of a couple of options, create my own NBExternalType subclass > > which I can use in an NBExternalStructure or subclass > > NBExternalAddress/Object with methods to extract the appropriate data, or > > have I missed the simple solution? > > > > well, there's no array-types support.. > so, what you can do is to place dummy fields instead of array.. i.e. > > int level > int number > char msgText1 > char msgText2 > ... > char msgText256 > > ulong elapsedTime > > which should do the trick. > > (of course, not necessary to use chars, you can use ints, so it will > be only 64 dummies instead of 256 ;) > > And of course a better way of doing that is to create a special > NBExternalType subclass , lets say NBExternalTypeArray > which takes a basic type and number of elements. > And it should answer correct #instanceSize and other related things, > as well as implement methods for pushing/storing and reading the > values of such type. > A subclass of NBExternalType looked like the better option when looking through the existing classes for a solution but I wasn't sure that I was ready to start writing assembler. I already feel like one of the Sorcerers Apprentices just using NativeBoost to interface to an external library, let alone adding some assembler incantations to my own spells :-). > I will work on adding that in closest days. > That would be great! In the meantime I will have a go at writing my own NBExternalType subclass to handle the specific situation I have come across; NBExternalString>>coerceReturnValue: looks like a good place to start. Even if I don't get very far it will hopefully help me understand your solution. > It is not too hard to implement ;) > No, not for a first class wizard :-) > > Thanks, Guy > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > >

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] NativeBoost external structure with char[] rather than char*

by Igor Stasenko

On 31 August 2012 15:03, Guy Hylton <guygantuan(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am looking for some NativeBoost advice on the best way of using a > structure with an containing a char array like the following: > > int level > int number > char[256] msgText > ulong elapsedTime > > Currently I am using an NBExternalAddress returned by NativeBoost>>allocate: > because the external library holds onto the address and using byteAt: to see > what is going on in the structure while I get used to the external library > API. > > I can think of a couple of options, create my own NBExternalType subclass > which I can use in an NBExternalStructure or subclass > NBExternalAddress/Object with methods to extract the appropriate data, or > have I missed the simple solution? > well, there's no array-types support.. so, what you can do is to place dummy fields instead of array.. i.e. int level int number char msgText1 char msgText2 ... char msgText256 ulong elapsedTime which should do the trick. (of course, not necessary to use chars, you can use ints, so it will be only 64 dummies instead of 256 ;) And of course a better way of doing that is to create a special NBExternalType subclass , lets say NBExternalTypeArray which takes a basic type and number of elements. And it should answer correct #instanceSize and other related things, as well as implement methods for pushing/storing and reading the values of such type. I will work on adding that in closest days. It is not too hard to implement ;) > Thanks, Guy -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

Aug. 31, 2012

HowTo not show a Debugger when calling deprecated methods in 1.4?

by Helene Bilbo

In #14459 i set *Deprecation showWarning:*, and *Deprecation raiseWarning:* both to false, but nevertheless a Debugger pops up, whenever i call a deprecated method. Is this intended or a bug? Is there another way to turn this behavior off? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/HowTo-not-show-a-Debugger-when-calling-deprecated-met… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Aug. 31, 2012

NativeBoost external structure with char[] rather than char*

by Guy Hylton

I am looking for some NativeBoost advice on the best way of using a structure with an containing a char array like the following: int level int number char[256] msgText ulong elapsedTime Currently I am using an NBExternalAddress returned by NativeBoost>>allocate: because the external library holds onto the address and using byteAt: to see what is going on in the structure while I get used to the external library API. I can think of a couple of options, create my own NBExternalType subclass which I can use in an NBExternalStructure or subclass NBExternalAddress/Object with methods to extract the appropriate data, or have I missed the simple solution? Thanks, Guy

Aug. 31, 2012

Sound in 1.4 or 2.0?

by Bernat Romagosa

Hi list, Is it possible to get sound working in either 1.4 or 2.0? In 2.0 almost all sound-related classes seem to have disappeared from the library, in 1.4 they haven't, but even copying the Scratch alsa (or OSS) plugin and running the image with the correct plugin parameters doesn't work for me. I asked this question before, but got no answer. Anybody else interested in working with sound in Pharo? Thanks! Bernat. p.s. I'm using Debian. -- Bernat Romagosa.

Aug. 29, 2012

[ANN] Aida 6.5 Summer released: more Mobile, more Cloud, more REST, ...

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dear Smalltalkers, Summer Edition of Aida/Web framework and application server (http://www.aidaweb.si) is here with bunch of new features: *Mobile* - the separate MobileApp classes now allow the mobile version of your existing web apps to be developed and completely tailored to mobile devices. Separate AidaMobile add-on based on jQuery Mobile allows developing of professional and nice looking mobile apps, rivaling the native ones. TwitterMobileApp demo is included. *Cloud* based on Cloudfork. Thanks to financial support by Citilab Barcelona we have now an OpenID authentication and OAuth authorization support in Aida. You can see OpenID in action live on our GSoC site http://gsoc12.esug.org where you can register and one-click login using Google as OpenID provider. No username/password needed. Future planes includes Aida as OpenID provider and OAuth authorization server too. *REST* - Aida is RESTfull from the start but serving other than HTML like JSON is now easier than ever. Goal for Aida is to seamlessly extend the existing web apps to become REST API providers as well. *MethodLibrary* for importing ever more complex libraries directly from internet and together with directory hierarchy into Smalltalk methods and manage them with Smalltalk version control systems. jQuery, Twitter Bootstrap, Amber included. You can now open Amber simply as: http://localhost:8888/amber/index.html More in Release notes: http://www.aidaweb.si/release-notes-6.5 On Pharo it is really simple to load, just evaluate this script: Gofer new squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfAida'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfAida) load. Then simply open http://www.aidaweb.si:8888 . There is also a OneClick image to get to Aida even faster: http://www.aidaweb.si/download . Best regards Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Aug. 27, 2012