June 2012 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Mariano Martinez Peck

btw, be careful that Object also understands #name :( On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Mariano Martinez Peck < marianopeck(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Jeff Gray <jeff(a)rogerthedog.com> wrote: > >> So, for fun I wrote a PlayingCard class with two instance variables, suit >> and >> value. >> calling collect: [:eachCard | eachCard value] >> > > off topic but also fun is that you can do: > > collect: [:eachCard | eachCard faceValue ] > > then you can do: > > collect: #faceValue. > > but I don't like that..it feels hackish to me. > > funny, what if you do collect: #value ? hahahaha > > > > >> on a collection of cards didn't work as I'd expected, but of course >> 'value' >> is the method on Object that returns self. >> >> Easily fixed by renaming the 'value' variable to faceValue (and associated >> accessors), but made me laugh... >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/value-a-trap-for-young-players-tp4634470.html >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> > > > -- > Mariano > http://marianopeck.wordpress.com > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Jeff Gray <jeff(a)rogerthedog.com> wrote: > So, for fun I wrote a PlayingCard class with two instance variables, suit > and > value. > calling collect: [:eachCard | eachCard value] > off topic but also fun is that you can do: collect: [:eachCard | eachCard faceValue ] then you can do: collect: #faceValue. but I don't like that..it feels hackish to me. funny, what if you do collect: #value ? hahahaha > on a collection of cards didn't work as I'd expected, but of course 'value' > is the method on Object that returns self. > > Easily fixed by renaming the 'value' variable to faceValue (and associated > accessors), but made me laugh... > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/value-a-trap-for-young-players-tp4634470.html > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Guillermo Polito

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Milan Mimica <milan.mimica(a)gmail.com>wrote: > On 12 June 2012 14:55, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> > PlayingCard>>value will override Object>>value. Noting funny about >> that. >> > >> why not? >> i use value for own purposes.. >> of course, if it fits and if there's no other more appropriate name >> for an object's property > > > Me too. Still, nothing funny. But ok, people laugh at different things. > > Don't be hard :). He probably was expecting the code to fail, found it wasn't, and he understood why. Learning is fun :) > > -- > Milan Mimica > http://sparklet.sf.net >

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Milan Mimica

On 12 June 2012 14:55, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > PlayingCard>>value will override Object>>value. Noting funny about that. > > > why not? > i use value for own purposes.. > of course, if it fits and if there's no other more appropriate name > for an object's property Me too. Still, nothing funny. But ok, people laugh at different things. -- Milan Mimica http://sparklet.sf.net

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Igor Stasenko

On 12 June 2012 14:48, Milan Mimica <milan.mimica(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12 June 2012 14:27, Jeff Gray <jeff(a)rogerthedog.com> wrote: >> >> So, for fun I wrote a PlayingCard class with two instance variables, suit >> and >> value. >> calling collect: [:eachCard | eachCard value] >> on a collection of cards didn't work as I'd expected, but of course >> 'value' >> is the method on Object that returns self. >> >> Easily fixed by renaming the 'value' variable to faceValue (and associated >> accessors), but made me laugh... > > > Â PlayingCard>>value will override Object>>value. Noting funny about that. > why not? i use value for own purposes.. of course, if it fits and if there's no other more appropriate name for an object's property > > -- > Milan Mimica > http://sparklet.sf.net -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] value - a trap for young players

by Milan Mimica

On 12 June 2012 14:27, Jeff Gray <jeff(a)rogerthedog.com> wrote: > So, for fun I wrote a PlayingCard class with two instance variables, suit > and > value. > calling collect: [:eachCard | eachCard value] > on a collection of cards didn't work as I'd expected, but of course 'value' > is the method on Object that returns self. > > Easily fixed by renaming the 'value' variable to faceValue (and associated > accessors), but made me laugh... > PlayingCard>>value will override Object>>value. Noting funny about that. -- Milan Mimica http://sparklet.sf.net

June 12, 2012

value - a trap for young players

by Jeff Gray

So, for fun I wrote a PlayingCard class with two instance variables, suit and value. calling collect: [:eachCard | eachCard value] on a collection of cards didn't work as I'd expected, but of course 'value' is the method on Object that returns self. Easily fixed by renaming the 'value' variable to faceValue (and associated accessors), but made me laugh... -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/value-a-trap-for-young-players-tp4634470.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] working with athens balloon

by Igor Stasenko

On 12 June 2012 07:39, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: > Did you publish in the meantime? :) > Yes. see Athens-Text-IgorStasenko.3 > Doru > > > On 11 Jun 2012, at 04:47, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> ok, i fixed the issues with text rendering in balloon.. >> alas, i cannot upload the fixes.. squeksource is down.. >> >> On 8 June 2012 12:14, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 8 June 2012 07:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Igor, >>>> >>>> On 8 Jun 2012, at 00:11, Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> On 7 Jun 2012, at 15:57, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ouch.. looks like extension methods is wiped from LogicalFont.. >>>>>> i will add them back.. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> Please just let me know when you re-add the methods so that I can test it. >>>> >>> sure >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it." >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko. >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Quality cannot be an afterthought." > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko.

June 12, 2012

ESUG events on facebook

by Norbert Hartl

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June 12, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] working with athens balloon

by Tudor Girba

Did you publish in the meantime? :) Doru On 11 Jun 2012, at 04:47, Igor Stasenko wrote: > ok, i fixed the issues with text rendering in balloon.. > alas, i cannot upload the fixes.. squeksource is down.. > > On 8 June 2012 12:14, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On 8 June 2012 07:59, Tudor Girba <tudor(a)tudorgirba.com> wrote: >>> Hi Igor, >>> >>> On 8 Jun 2012, at 00:11, Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> On 7 Jun 2012, at 15:57, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>>> >>>>> ouch.. looks like extension methods is wiped from LogicalFont.. >>>>> i will add them back.. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>> >>> Please just let me know when you re-add the methods so that I can test it. >>> >> sure >> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "It's not what we do that matters most, it's how we do it." >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > -- www.tudorgirba.com "Quality cannot be an afterthought."

June 12, 2012