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Re: [Pharo-users] Defining Prerequisites in Packages

by Dale Henrichs

Runar, This week at the STIC conference, there has been a little headway made towards sharing source code between Smalltalk dialects (and the issue of what to do about package dependencies has come up) ... As part of my presentation at STIC[1], I argued that git/github is a good vehicle for sharing Smalltalk between dialects and that message got some traction with most of the attendees and a little project called Cypress[2] was started with a few folks who are going to collaborate on a cross dialect, disk-based package import/export format. Work on VW and Amber variants for Cypress was started at the Camp Smalltalk yesterday and there is a VAST developer involved as well. The Cypress project was inspired by the FileTree[3] project which was originated by Otto Behrens. The FileTree project provides a disk-based package structure based on Monticello and the Cypress project is focussed on generalizing the format to accomodate multiple Smalltalk dialects. The FileTree code works for Pharo and Squeak and there will be a port to GemStone coming. The FileTree project and the Cypress projects will eventually share same structure on disk... While the package formats being discussed are SCM neutral, the idea is to use git/github for sharing source code between dialects ... Keep an eye on Cypress project for developments and if you have feedback, we are using the Cypress issue list[4] for Cypress related conversations beyond just bug reports... More work on Cypress will be done today ... Dale [1] http://portal.sliderocket.com/vmware/STIC-2012-Practical-Git-for-Smalltalk [2] https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/Cypress [3] https://github.com/dalehenrich/filetree [4] https://github.com/CampSmalltalk/Cypress/issues ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Runar Jordahl" <runar.jordahl(a)gmail.com> | To: "A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome" <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> | Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:22:11 AM | Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Defining Prerequisites in Packages | | Thanks for your answer. | | I have read this document and I know that dependencies can be defined | in Metacello configuration classes. I guess I question whether this | is | the best location to store package dependencies. | | If, for example, I were to port my integration with DTangler to | Pharo, | I am unsure how the tool will be able to find dependencies for a | given | package. Would it need to search though ConfigurationOf-classes? How | would it determine the correct version to use, etc? Maybe it can be | done, but it would be harder than VisualWorksâ approach were you have | this information directly in the package. | | Also consider that you might want to query dependencies not just for | a | single project (like Seaside), but for the entire image. Using a | single ConfigurationOf-class, might not be sufficient. | | Then again, I do not have much knowledge of Pharo. Maybe Pharoâs | approach makes sense once I start using itâ¦ | | Is my understanding correct when I expect Pharo to continue having | package dependencies only defined in Metacello configuration classes? | | Kind regards | Runar Jordahl | |

March 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino from 1.4

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

So it is working on mac? I would like to have a demo for the conference. Any suggestion what kind of setup is cool to buy. Stef > > 2012/3/21 Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> > Ok, I updated ConfigurationOfArduino, now it should work on latest Pharo. Let me know if you encounter any problem. > > Thanks Ricardo! > > @Hubert&Robin : now you can load it without a glitch in 1.4 using: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. > > Luc > > > Cheers, > Richo > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, sorry for that. Guille told me about this yesterday and I've working on it. It seems my image was way too old, so I'm updating the configurations to reflect the dependency. > > Cheers, > Richo > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB > perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. > is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the ConfigurationOfArduino. > > I managed to load it in 1.4 using: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: #stable) load. > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. > > > @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino board ;-) > > #Luc > > > >

March 23, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino from 1.4

by Luc Fabresse

2012/3/21 Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> > Ok, I updated ConfigurationOfArduino, now it should work on latest Pharo. > Let me know if you encounter any problem. Thanks Ricardo! @Hubert&Robin : now you can load it without a glitch in 1.4 using: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. Luc > > Cheers, > Richo > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi, sorry for that. Guille told me about this yesterday and I've working >> on it. It seems my image was way too old, so I'm updating the >> configurations to reflect the dependency. >> >> Cheers, >> Richo >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig >>> and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB >>> perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. >>> is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the >>> ConfigurationOfArduino. >>> >>> I managed to load it in 1.4 using: >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; >>> load. >>> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: >>> #stable) load. >>> >>> Gofer it >>> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >>> package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; >>> load. >>> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. >>> >>> >>> @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino >>> board ;-) >>> >>> #Luc >>> >>> >> >

March 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Dynamic play with Morphic UI Construction videos..

by S Krish

Obliged for comments.. as I turn in towards formal effort in this direction. * The major focus is on dynamic, real time update/ feedback on Morphic UI construction, which is lot better than UI Builders. * Customized Browser that enables the real time feedback loop, construction of MVP/MVC classes that are default when required. PS: As Igor pointed out now the tree view browser does have intelligent full width detection.. and uses when resized / expanded the whole available width. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:10 PM, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Great fun playing with and building a moderately complex beginners UI. > > http://picasaweb.google.com/skrishnamachari/Pharo_Dynamic_UI > > Builds up over the 5 videos to move from simple forms to complex form > and a runtime integration instantly... > > Borrowing from Bret Taylor's .. dynamic UI construction, not that > jazz, but the overall feel is the same responsive just in time UI > construction feedback cycle.. > > I guess time to rest my dirty hack hat, and don a professional one to > deliver the promise of updated framework that does this, within the > next week or two max... >

March 22, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino from 1.4

by Ricardo Moran

Ok, I updated ConfigurationOfArduino, now it should work on latest Pharo. Let me know if you encounter any problem. Cheers, Richo On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi, sorry for that. Guille told me about this yesterday and I've working > on it. It seems my image was way too old, so I'm updating the > configurations to reflect the dependency. > > Cheers, > Richo > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com>wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig >> and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB >> perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. >> is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the >> ConfigurationOfArduino. >> >> I managed to load it in 1.4 using: >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; >> load. >> ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: >> #stable) load. >> >> Gofer it >> squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. >> >> >> @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino board >> ;-) >> >> #Luc >> >> >

March 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino from 1.4

by Ricardo Moran

Hi, sorry for that. Guille told me about this yesterday and I've working on it. It seems my image was way too old, so I'm updating the configurations to reflect the dependency. Cheers, Richo On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com>wrote: > Hi all, > > @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig > and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB > perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. > is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the > ConfigurationOfArduino. > > I managed to load it in 1.4 using: > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; > load. > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: > #stable) load. > > Gofer it > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. > > > @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino board > ;-) > > #Luc > >

March 21, 2012

Arduino from 1.4

by Luc Fabresse

Hi all, @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the ConfigurationOfArduino. I managed to load it in 1.4 using: Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; load. ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: #stable) load. Gofer it squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino board ;-) #Luc

March 21, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies 2011

by S Krish

with a bigger load of stuff like this.. On 3/20/12, S Krish <krishnamachari.sudhakar(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Guess we need to move over to 2012..! > > On 3/20/12, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> Dear smalltakers, >> >> We are now pleased to inform you that the IWST 2011 proceedings are >> currently on-line. >> here is the IWST link: >> http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2166929&picked=prox&cfid=71182337&cftoken… >> >> From this page, you will be able to acces all papers. >> >> Regards, >> >> LoÃ¯c Lagadec & Alain Plantec >> IWST 2011 co-chairs >> >> >> >

March 20, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies 2011

by S Krish

Guess we need to move over to 2012..! On 3/20/12, Alain Plantec <alain.plantec(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Dear smalltakers, > > We are now pleased to inform you that the IWST 2011 proceedings are > currently on-line. > here is the IWST link: > http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2166929&picked=prox&cfid=71182337&cftoken… > > From this page, you will be able to acces all papers. > > Regards, > > LoÃ¯c Lagadec & Alain Plantec > IWST 2011 co-chairs > > >

March 20, 2012

Pharo Dynamic play with Morphic UI Construction videos..

by S Krish

Great fun playing with and building a moderately complex beginners UI. http://picasaweb.google.com/skrishnamachari/Pharo_Dynamic_UI Builds up over the 5 videos to move from simple forms to complex form and a runtime integration instantly... Borrowing from Bret Taylor's .. dynamic UI construction, not that jazz, but the overall feel is the same responsive just in time UI construction feedback cycle.. I guess time to rest my dirty hack hat, and don a professional one to deliver the promise of updated framework that does this, within the next week or two max...

March 20, 2012