March 2012 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Status of OmniBrowser, OBSystemBrowser in 1.4?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> >> >>> I read at the Seaside list: "There are no plans in supporting OB in Pharo >>> 1.4." >> >> So :) should we do it? This is the question? Should we maintain a system >> that the maintainers do not work >> to maintain on Pharo1.4? and for which we have no control? This is a real >> question :) >> > > Haha, too much internals the humble user doesn't know about :) > So, OB is not developed by the same people than Pharo-Project and the people > responsible for OB won't support Pharo 1.4? So it's no longer there. I think so. And this is not under our control. >> >> - People may want to use Nautilus that is build on this core. >> > > Of course, i already gave it a try and made a nice drawing with suggestions: > http://forum.world.st/more-Nautilus-feed-back-tp4457416p4459175.html > I'm looking forward to use it in the future! > > The question was really about *getting information* on what is happening. It > is not always clear to the uninitiated. ask and we will tell. You can also read the document I spent days to write and that we sent around about Pharo vision. Stef > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Status-of-OmniBrowser-OBSystemBrowser-in-1-4-tp450836… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 28, 2012

ContextS2 Updates

by Tim Felgentreff

Because it's AOSD, I sat down and optimized ContextS2 somewhat (layered method executions should be around 3x faster than before ... which is still around 80x slower than non-layered methods on Cog). I also fixed the tests on Pharo 1.4 So, ContextS2 should now run from Squeak 4.2 onwards and on Pharo 1.4 If you use it and find problems, please report bugs! Enjoy, Tim

March 28, 2012

[GSoC] Call for students

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dear Students, Now it is your turn! You will have to register in our website first [1], put there some information, show interest for the projects and contact the project mentors. After the registration step you will get all the mentors information in order to contact them. By pressing the button on the project, you will show your interest. This is not something formal yet. Of course you can propose your own project too. In this case write a proposal in a format other projects have and send it to admins (see the email on the bottom). Our mentors will vote for the most interesting projects and in the middle of the voting Google will tell us, how many projects will actually be funded. Voting will happen in April, with final results expected at the end of April. At that time you will finally know if you are accepted or not. Of course, there can be many students interested per project. This means that interest for this project is high, but on the other side a chance that you will be chosen is lower. It is up to you to convince a mentor that you are the best! Note also that the Ideas page is deprecated. On ideas page just the project ideas were collected. Now, we are preparing the real projects. So, please from now on always refer to this link for the projects: http://gsoc2012.esug.org/projects So, the initial steps are: 1. Register on our special Smalltalk GSoC website (with your Google account!): http://gsoc2012.esug.org/admin?view=loginGoogle 2. Edit your profile to get some more contact information for mentors to let you know, 3. Fulfill your brief Biography page (see Biography tab on profile), 4. Go to Projects page, choose up to three projects and click there 'I'm interested' button, 5. Contact and discuss with project mentors about your interest. Subscribe also to a special mailing list [2] where we will help you with further steps. Deadline: as soon as possible, because the deadline to register on official GSoC website [3] is 6.April, which is, well, soon! But about that later... Finally, we will really appreciate if you can help us to distribute this call for students. One of our goals is to increase the Smalltalk community. Those who have access to universities can distribute this among the students. [1] http://gsoc2012.esug.org [2] Students mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/smalltalk-gsoc-students [3] Official GSoC website http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2012 Good luck! Janko & Carla --- GSoC Admin Team smalltalk.gsoc(a)gmail.com http://gsoc2012.esug.org -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

March 28, 2012

Hello newcomers :)

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

The pharo mailing-list is regularly attracting some newcomers and I would like to welcome them :) So welcome. We really want to improve the system so your contribution are welcomed. Now the first contribution you can do is to sign the license http://www.pharo-project.org/community/how-to-contribute http://www.pharo-project.org/license So welcome guys! Do not hesitate to let us know what you are doing and how we can improve the system and let you invent your future :) Stef

March 27, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Status of OmniBrowser, OBSystemBrowser in 1.4?

by Helene Bilbo

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > >> I read at the Seaside list: "There are no plans in supporting OB in Pharo >> 1.4." > > So :) should we do it? This is the question? Should we maintain a system > that the maintainers do not work > to maintain on Pharo1.4? and for which we have no control? This is a real > question :) > Haha, too much internals the humble user doesn't know about :) So, OB is not developed by the same people than Pharo-Project and the people responsible for OB won't support Pharo 1.4? So it's no longer there. StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote > > - People may want to use Nautilus that is build on this core. > Of course, i already gave it a try and made a nice drawing with suggestions: http://forum.world.st/more-Nautilus-feed-back-tp4457416p4459175.html I'm looking forward to use it in the future! The question was really about *getting information* on what is happening. It is not always clear to the uninitiated. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Status-of-OmniBrowser-OBSystemBrowser-in-1-4-tp450836… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 27, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Status of OmniBrowser, OBSystemBrowser in 1.4?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Helene Bilbo wrote: > What will be the status of OmniBrowser - and from my perspective not the > Framework, but the OBSystemBrowser, but it's surely connected - in Pharo > 1.4? > > I read at the Seaside list: "There are no plans in supporting OB in Pharo > 1.4." So :) should we do it? This is the question? Should we maintain a system that the maintainers do not work to maintain on Pharo1.4? and for which we have no control? This is a real question :) Now the real question is: will seaside ported to Pharo 1.4 because if lukas only use OB to code and OB is not ported to 1.4 then we can ask ourselves. Again our responsibility is to produce an excellent core and we did a lot of improvements. Now if people do not want to use a better system we cannot force them but we will not stop because our goal is to bring Smalltalk to the next level :). What we will do is the following: - We will ship 1.4 core (without OB) because this is what we daily use. - People may want to use Nautilus that is build on this core. - We may help a group of people willing to propose a configurationOfOB for 1.4. I do not think that this is that much work. For example, I clean ECompletion and packaged it in a new package for 1.4 For 1.5 we will introduce Nautilus and remove all the old browsers. Normally we will rewritten completely everything from scratch. > On the other hand i recently saw OmniBrowser has new features and - of all > things - a Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/106411970666264136741/posts > > Also there seem to be different versions, that from a user-perspective are > not easily distinguisable? > > Can anyone who knows about it explain or update the CollaboractiveBook page: > http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/OmniBrowser/ > > The missing OBSystemBrowser is what stopps me from really using 1.4 at the > moment. Did you try Nautilus? Nautilus is improving every day. Because it is cool too and build automatically from our jenkins. https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Nautilus/job/Nautilus-Release/ Stef > > Best regards, Helene. > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Status-of-OmniBrowser-OBSystemBrowser-in-1-4-tp450836… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

March 27, 2012

Status of OmniBrowser, OBSystemBrowser in 1.4?

by Helene Bilbo

What will be the status of OmniBrowser - and from my perspective not the Framework, but the OBSystemBrowser, but it's surely connected - in Pharo 1.4? I read at the Seaside list: "There are no plans in supporting OB in Pharo 1.4." On the other hand i recently saw OmniBrowser has new features and - of all things - a Google+ page: https://plus.google.com/106411970666264136741/posts Also there seem to be different versions, that from a user-perspective are not easily distinguisable? Can anyone who knows about it explain or update the CollaboractiveBook page: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/PharoTools/OmniBrowser/ The missing OBSystemBrowser is what stopps me from really using 1.4 at the moment. Best regards, Helene. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Status-of-OmniBrowser-OBSystemBrowser-in-1-4-tp450836… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

March 27, 2012

IWST'2012 CFP - International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies

by Alain Plantec

Apologies for multiple receptions. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IWST @ ESUG 2012 International Workshop on Smalltalk Technologies Pending ACM In-Cooperation August 28th, 2012 Gent, Belgium http://www.esug.org/wiki/pier/Conferences/2012/International-Workshop---IWS… ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ESUG 2012 Smalltalk joint event IMPORTANT DATES * Submission deadline: June 15, 2012 * Notification deadline: July 15, 2012 All accepted papers will be published in ACM DL, and the authors of the best papers will be invited to submit an extended version to a journal special issue (To Be Confirmed). GOALS AND SCOPE The goals of the workshop is to create a forum around advances or experience in Smalltalk and to trigger discussions and exchanges of ideas. Participants are invited to submit research articles. We will not enforce any length restriction. However we expect papers of two kinds: * Short position papers describing emerging ideas. * Long research papers with deeper description of experiments and of research results. TOPICS We welcome contributions on all aspects, theoretical as well as practical, of Smalltalk related topics such as: * Aspect-oriented programming, * Design patterns, * Experience reports, * Frameworks, * Implementation, new dialects or languages implemented in Smalltalk, * Interaction with other languages, * Meta-programming and Meta-modeling, * Tools PUBLICATION Both submissions and final papers must be prepared using the ACM SIGPLAN 10 point format. Templates for Word and LaTeX are available at http://www.acm.org/sigs/sigplan/authorInformation.htm; this site also contains links to useful informations on how to write effective submissions. Program chairs: LoÃ¯c Lagadec and Alain Plantec (LabSticc/CNRS, University of Brest, France) Program committee Gabriela Arevalo LIFIA, University of la Plata, Argentina Alexandre Bergel University of Chile Andrew P. Black Portland State University, US Marcus Denker Rmod, INRIA Lille - Nord Europe, France Luc Fabresse Ecole des Mines de Douai, France, Tudor Girba CompuGroup Medical Schweiz, Switzerland Andy Kellens Software Languages Lab, Vrije Universiteit Brussel, Belgium MickaÃ«l Kerboeuf LabSticc, University of Brest, France Jannik Laval LaBRI, University of Bordeaux, France Mariano Martinez Peck Ecole des Mines de Douai, France, Lukas Renggli Google, US Jorge Ressia Software Composition Group, University of Bern, Switzerland Bastian Steinert HPI, Software Architecture Group, Germany Hernan Wilkinson 10Pines, IT consultancy, Buenos Aires, Argentina Roel Wuyts IMEC Leuven, Belgium

March 26, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Arduino from 1.4

by Luc Fabresse

2012/3/23 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > So it is working on mac? > We don't know yet. It loads in 1.4. Hubert and Robin will test on the board soon but on windows or linux I guess. > I would like to have a demo for the conference. > Any suggestion what kind of setup is cool to buy. Here we have the arduino uno (http://arduino.cc/en/Main/arduinoBoardUno) It is more or less the begginner board (USB+Ethernet). All boards are described here: http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Hardware Luc > > Stef > > > > > > 2012/3/21 Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> > > Ok, I updated ConfigurationOfArduino, now it should work on latest > Pharo. Let me know if you encounter any problem. > > > > Thanks Ricardo! > > > > @Hubert&Robin : now you can load it without a glitch in 1.4 using: > > > > Gofer it > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. > > > > Luc > > > > > > Cheers, > > Richo > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Ricardo Moran <richi.moran(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi, sorry for that. Guille told me about this yesterday and I've working > on it. It seems my image was way too old, so I'm updating the > configurations to reflect the dependency. > > > > Cheers, > > Richo > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Luc Fabresse <luc.fabresse(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > @Ricardo, I tried to load the arduino package using you MetacelloConfig > and it seems that it misses a dependency to RB > > perhaps you tried in Pharo 1.3 which includes it. > > is this dependency mandatory? maybe it would be great to update the > ConfigurationOfArduino. > > > > I managed to load it in 1.4 using: > > > > Gofer it > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser'; > > load. > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser) project version: > #stable) load. > > > > Gofer it > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfArduino'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfArduino) load. > > > > > > @Hubert and Robin, now you can make it work for real on the arduino > board ;-) > > > > #Luc > > > > > > > > > > >

March 23, 2012

I went to Biloxi and all I got was a Tshirt (Chris Cunnington)

by Dale Henrichs

If you haven't seen them already, check out Chris Cunnington's posts on the Squeak list covering his notes and observations on the STIC conference that was held this week in Biloxi. Dale

March 23, 2012