December 2012 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by dimitris chloupis

wow thank you so much, this is exactly what I wanted ________________________________ From: Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> To: A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 15:33 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus MessageBrowserÂ openFullProtocolForClass: aClass or MessageBrowserÂ openSubProtocolForClass: aClass if you do not want methods from Object and ProtoObject Ben On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Previous versions of pharo use to have a "protocol browser", which idea was to show exactly that. But no one was using so it was removed. > I still miss a way to easy access that information but I feel a specific browser is too much. Probably a Nautilus plugin would be a lot better :) > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> this is only partially possible using the following: >> Â Â Â >> cmd/ctrl-shift-M Â Â Â find any implemented method >> cmd-mÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â find a method in the current class >> >> don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") >> >> On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? >>> >>> I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes. >> >> > >

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by Esteban Lorenzano

ha, I had no idea that was somewhere... cool! On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:33 AM, Benjamin <benjamin.vanryseghem.pharo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > MessageBrowser openFullProtocolForClass: aClass > or > MessageBrowser openSubProtocolForClass: aClass if you do not want methods from Object and ProtoObject > > Ben > > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > >> Previous versions of pharo use to have a "protocol browser", which idea was to show exactly that. But no one was using so it was removed. >> I still miss a way to easy access that information but I feel a specific browser is too much. Probably a Nautilus plugin would be a lot better :) >> >> On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> this is only partially possible using the following: >>> >>> cmd/ctrl-shift-M find any implemented method >>> cmd-m find a method in the current class >>> >>> don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") >>> >>> On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>> Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? >>>> >>>> I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes. >>> >>> >> >> > >

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by dimitris chloupis

probably I have not been clear enough. What I want is this, as it is already if i click inside Nautilus on a class it shows me all the methods it defines / overides but does not show the methods it inherits. The only way I could find is to browse the hierarchy and browse each class it inherits from but of course thats is tedious. ctrl-shift-M does not work for me alt-m works but i have to choose a method and this is not what I want because that is even more time consuming than browsing the hierarchy. Thanks for the reply. ________________________________ From: Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> To: dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk>; A friendly place where any question about pharo is welcome <pharo-users(a)lists.gforge.inria.fr> Sent: Wednesday, 19 December 2012, 15:23 Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus this is only partially possible using the following: Â Â Â cmd/ctrl-shift-M Â Â Â find any implemented method cmd-mÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â find a method in the current class don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? > > I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes.

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by Benjamin

MessageBrowser openFullProtocolForClass: aClass or MessageBrowser openSubProtocolForClass: aClass if you do not want methods from Object and ProtoObject Ben On Dec 19, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > Previous versions of pharo use to have a "protocol browser", which idea was to show exactly that. But no one was using so it was removed. > I still miss a way to easy access that information but I feel a specific browser is too much. Probably a Nautilus plugin would be a lot better :) > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> this is only partially possible using the following: >> >> cmd/ctrl-shift-M find any implemented method >> cmd-m find a method in the current class >> >> don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") >> >> On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? >>> >>> I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes. >> >> > >

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] CQRS and Event Sourcing in Smalltalk

by Norbert Hartl

Am 19.12.2012 um 13:50 schrieb Rafael Luque <rafael.luque.leiva(a)gmail.com>: > Unfortunately, what I really need is to implement CQRS, or some of its concepts as you said, in a Java-based webapp, but not in Smalltalk. We are suffering severe performance issues and I'm evaluating if the "read model" of CQRS could be a good solution for our problem. Then I thought: why not to look up inspiration in an Smalltalk framework, if it exists :-) Please keep me updated. I didn't think of using CQRS like stuff for performance reasons. From the gut I would say if you haven't a lot of monitors/locks active or you can't afford to update the read model less often then the odds are not that high in helping with performance issues. But interesting indeed. Norbert

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by Esteban Lorenzano

Previous versions of pharo use to have a "protocol browser", which idea was to show exactly that. But no one was using so it was removed. I still miss a way to easy access that information but I feel a specific browser is too much. Probably a Nautilus plugin would be a lot better :) On Dec 19, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com> wrote: > this is only partially possible using the following: > > cmd/ctrl-shift-M find any implemented method > cmd-m find a method in the current class > > don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") > > On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >> Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? >> >> I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes. > >

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Browsing inherited methods in Nautilus

by Camillo Bruni

this is only partially possible using the following: cmd/ctrl-shift-M find any implemented method cmd-m find a method in the current class don't forget to check the complete shortcut-list (NautilusWindow, top right corner, "Shortcuts description") On 2012-12-19, at 05:51, dimitris chloupis <thekilon(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Is it possible to browse inherited methods in Nautilus without going back the hierarchy ? > > I want the class to display all its methods including the ones that it inherits from super classes.

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] CQRS and Event Sourcing in Smalltalk

by Rafael Luque

Thank you again Norbert, So my general advize would be to start small. Think about the central > concepts of CQRS and what you need from. If you are looking at the java API > and do a solution in smalltalk you just need some confidence that you > didn't forget a ton of stuff only because it is much smaller and easier :) > I agree with you and this is the reason why I was looking for an Smalltalk framework to build CQRS webapps. > I really like the topic. If you have other inquiries or insights regarding > this topic I'm always interested. If you can tell what you need I can think > about what of the stuff I did might be useful to others. > Unfortunately, what I really need is to implement CQRS, or some of its concepts as you said, in a Java-based webapp, but not in Smalltalk. We are suffering severe performance issues and I'm evaluating if the "read model" of CQRS could be a good solution for our problem. Then I thought: why not to look up inspiration in an Smalltalk framework, if it exists :-) Rafael Luque

Dec. 19, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo Google Plus Community

by Robert Shiplett

thanks for adding that - it is simply good for Pharo visibility, I believe ... On 19 December 2012 08:05, Marcus Denker <marcus.denker(a)inria.fr> wrote: > â¦ no idea if this is useful, but i added a Google Plus Community: > > https://plus.google.com/communities/110606515284627209423 > > Marcus >

Dec. 19, 2012

Pharo Google Plus Community

by Marcus Denker

â¦ no idea if this is useful, but i added a Google Plus Community: https://plus.google.com/communities/110606515284627209423 Marcus

Dec. 19, 2012