December 2012 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by Tim Mackinnon

Thanks for the confirmation. Did I read somewhere that XTreams would be included in Pharo2.0? When you say not fully up to date, it seems like the configuration references changes from Mar 2012 - so I guess thats not too old - although it seems hard to tell as the Pharo configuration doesn't really tell you this info (I think you can infer it by looking at the timestamp of the oldest version method), and the XTreams project website doesn't have any history detail and the Cincom store looks like you have to load VW to check this. So we don't do ourselves many favours to communicate version history which is a bit of a shame. Anyway - I can still practice using what is there I guess. -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/How-to-try-out-XTreams-tp4657923p4658076.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Dec. 4, 2012

Legacy FileDirectory

by Camillo Bruni

I finally found the motivation to properly package my compatibility package. http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~dh83/fisleg/packages/FileSystem-Legacy For people who want to migrate to 2.0 but depend on FileDirectory, they can load this compatibility package for 2.0 which will add a mock FileDirectory. It will mostly forward to FileReference. This is legacy software and should only be used for migration ;) best cami

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] What are slices?

by Sebastian Nozzi

2012/12/4 Camillo Bruni <camillobruni(a)gmail.com>: > see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute > > I don't know exactly what is written there :) but we prefer slices over changesets. > Changesets should only be used in special cases where slices won't work. Which > is generally the case when changing something in the very core. I read the wiki page and tried it out myself. > Usually we have a script that does a sanity check for the incoming slices on the > issue tracker called "the monkey". THAT was the famous monkey!!! > I hope that this answers most of your questions? Yes. I think I understood the concept: mcz that points to other mcz's, which you use to snapshot a part of the image and integrate into your development process. Thanks for the answers! Seb.

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] What are slices?

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-12-04, at 14:41, Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I have some basic questions regarding "slices". > > On the pharo-project list I see people collaborating the whole time > with "slices" (or uploading them). see http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/HowToContribute > * What are they? > * How are they used? > * When to use them, when not? I don't know exactly what is written there :) but we prefer slices over changesets. Changesets should only be used in special cases where slices won't work. Which is generally the case when changing something in the very core. Usually we have a script that does a sanity check for the incoming slices on the issue tracker called "the monkey". Currently it is out of service, but we will revive it soon. So with this script we can almost fully automatize the integration process. I hope that this answers most of your questions? best cami

Dec. 4, 2012

What are slices?

by Sebastian Nozzi

Hello all, I have some basic questions regarding "slices". On the pharo-project list I see people collaborating the whole time with "slices" (or uploading them). * What are they? * How are they used? * When to use them, when not? Thanks in advance! Sebastian

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by Camillo Bruni

hi tim, On 2012-12-03, at 20:07, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi guys - I've been meaning to learn how to use XTreams and so I wanted to > have a play in Pharo - however I am confused about how best to load it? > > I want to stick to a stable image - so I downloaded the 1.4 summer edition > from the website, and then the XTreams project page seemed to point me to > Squeak source and the install instructions seem quite old? As in there are > Gofer instructions which I'm not convinced load the most up to date code. If > I try and load a later mcz file it starts complaining about unsatisfied > pre-requisites? Yes, XTreams has not been fully maintained over the last year(s?). Check the instructions below for installing. Keep in mind that the squeak/pharo port is not fully up to date. There are quite some changes done to the original xtreams which were not yet back-ported. > I thought all this loading stuff was now sorted with metacello - but I don't > see any references to this anywhere? Actually in typing this - it occurs to > me that there was a welcome screen somewhere in Pharo that described how to > load stuff so I've just gone and checked and found the > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser - and now noticed there is an untrusted entry > for XTreams. Is this how I'm suppposed to load it? Right-click => Load Configuration then you can try to install the latest version from there ConfigurationOfXtreams loadDevelopment This is standard metacello knowledge, you will find more details in the PharoByExample Metacello Chapter: http://pharobooks.gforge.inria.fr/PharoByExampleTwo-Eng/latest/Metacello.pdf > If it is - is there any way of getting the Squeak source instructions > updated, or even better the XTreams project page to give better directions > (as this would have saved me time). The configuration part is pretty standard, however the configuration should be in the xtreams repository as well. So generally there are always two locations to check where the configurations are - in the repository under a package ConfigurationOfXXX - in the MetacelloRepositor which is accessible with the configuration browser I hope that clarified things a bit.

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:31, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > With "URL mapping" I mean to variables/parameters, like: > > /blog/post/{id}/{slur} > > respondWithPost: id slur: slur > ^ 'html for post' > > Since I see you are involved with Aida... can Aida do something like > that? I am not much familiar with it... Aida has a pluggable router so you can plug your own routing scheme besides default ones. I'd implement your example in something like these steps: 1. create a standalone App class, say MyBlogApp, as a subclass of WebApplication 2. register it in a router: AIDASite default router addRoutePattern: '/blog/post/*' handler: MyBlogApp new 3. create #resouceFor: method in MyBlogApp to return itself 4. continue writing the standard Aida way by implementing #viewMain etc. 5. extracting {id} and {slur} part by accessing the url of the last request: self session lastRequest urlString ... and so on. To ease all of this we can add an additional routing functionality to Aida to be available by default, after collecting some experience, how is the best way to do this. If you are interested to help ... :) Best regards Janko > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > > 2012/12/4 Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com>: >> Hi Janko, >> >> well, what I am looking for is: >> >> * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) >> * simple URL mapping >> * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, >> setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) >> >> Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic >> nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. >> >> Best regards, >> Sebastian >> >> 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >>> Hi Sebastian, >>> >>> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>>> >>>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>>> >>>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>>> >>>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >>> >>> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >>> what kind of web apps? >>> >>> Best regards >>> Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

Just briefly looking at the documentation. Looks good, will try it out, thanks! 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: > Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:24, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > Look at Aida tutorial to see if it suits your needs: > > http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial > > For blog there is a Scribo CMS addon with (a bit outdated) blog > included. Wiki and website functionality is up to date. > > Best regards > Janko

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Janko MivÅ¡ek

Dne 04. 12. 2012 16:24, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: > Hi Janko, > > well, what I am looking for is: > > * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) > * simple URL mapping > * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, > setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) > > Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic > nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. Look at Aida tutorial to see if it suits your needs: http://www.aidaweb.si/tutorial For blog there is a Scribo CMS addon with (a bit outdated) blog included. Wiki and website functionality is up to date. Best regards Janko > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>> Hello, >>> >>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>> >>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>> >>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>> >>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >> >> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >> what kind of web apps? >> >> Best regards >> Janko -- Janko MivÅ¡ek Aida/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Sinatra-like framework?

by Sebastian Nozzi

With "URL mapping" I mean to variables/parameters, like: /blog/post/{id}/{slur} respondWithPost: id slur: slur ^ 'html for post' Since I see you are involved with Aida... can Aida do something like that? I am not much familiar with it... Best regards, Sebastian 2012/12/4 Sebastian Nozzi <sebnozzi(a)gmail.com>: > Hi Janko, > > well, what I am looking for is: > > * "nice" URLs (without Seaside-like session/callback query-parameters) > * simple URL mapping > * helping functionality (for dealing with query-params, cookies, > setting/getting HTTP headers, etc.) > > Let's say for implementing a blog, or a simple web-page with basic > nagivation. Don't think I need more at the moment. > > Best regards, > Sebastian > > 2012/12/4 Janko MivÅ¡ek <janko.mivsek(a)eranova.si>: >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> Dne 02. 12. 2012 23:50, piÅ¡e Sebastian Nozzi: >>> Hello, >>> >>> before I roll-out my own solution, I thought I should ask: >>> >>> Are you aware of a Sinatra-like web-framework for Pharo? >>> >>> http://www.sinatrarb.com/ >>> >>> Or can Zinc-HTTP do that more or less out-of-the-box? >> >> What are your primary expectations? Simplicity, REST, flexibility, for >> what kind of web apps? >> >> Best regards >> Janko >> >> -- >> Janko MivÅ¡ek >> Aida/Web >> Smalltalk Web Application Server >> http://www.aidaweb.si

Dec. 4, 2012