December 2012 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] parse iCalendar (rfc2445) recurrence rules into a Schedule?

by Paul DeBruicker

Hi Stef, Thanks for getting back to me. That library does 90% of what I want so I'll take a look at adding the last 10% sometime. was just hoping to be able to skip adding the last 10% Paul On 12/06/2012 01:21 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Hi paul > > I do not know if there is a parser. What I know is that the package on ss was developed during lecture I gave at bern and > used in DabbleDB (I do not know if they extended it - probably). > > Stef > > On Dec 6, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > >> Hi - >> >> Is there a package that will convert an iCalendar (*.ics file, rfe2445) >> VEVENT and its recurrence/exclusion rules/dates into a Schedule in pharo >> or squeak or gemstone? >> >> >> I've seen the iCal package on Squeaksource but it doesn't seem to >> interpret the RRULEs into anything other than their constituent parts. >> >> Thanks >> >> Paul >> > >

Dec. 7, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] parse iCalendar (rfc2445) recurrence rules into a Schedule?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hi paul I do not know if there is a parser. What I know is that the package on ss was developed during lecture I gave at bern and used in DabbleDB (I do not know if they extended it - probably). Stef On Dec 6, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Paul DeBruicker wrote: > Hi - > > Is there a package that will convert an iCalendar (*.ics file, rfe2445) > VEVENT and its recurrence/exclusion rules/dates into a Schedule in pharo > or squeak or gemstone? > > > I've seen the iCal package on Squeaksource but it doesn't seem to > interpret the RRULEs into anything other than their constituent parts. > > Thanks > > Paul >

Dec. 6, 2012

parse iCalendar (rfc2445) recurrence rules into a Schedule?

by Paul DeBruicker

Hi - Is there a package that will convert an iCalendar (*.ics file, rfe2445) VEVENT and its recurrence/exclusion rules/dates into a Schedule in pharo or squeak or gemstone? I've seen the iCal package on Squeaksource but it doesn't seem to interpret the RRULEs into anything other than their constituent parts. Thanks Paul

Dec. 6, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>>> Thanks for the confirmation. >>> >>> Did I read somewhere that XTreams would be included in Pharo2.0? >> >> May be >> Now just loading them and not improving the system to be able to throw away the old streams is not satisfactory >> and we do not have the manpower for it. > > I think it is the same story as with the FileSystem... > They will have to exist for some time in parallel, which will work fine > since they don't share the same protocols. > > Then we have to do a major move towards a small legacy layer, again like > in FS, and then start to rewrite things step by step to the new Xtreams. yes > The current streams are so horribly broken that I think there is little to > no chance to fix it from within. Maybe wrappers like Sven did will temporarily > work around the issues, but they are poor solution compared to Xtreams. I agree > I remember Sean loaded and made Xtreams work in 2.0 and the couple of test > failing were related to the FS changes from 14 to 20. > > And yes we might sweat some blood until the thing will properly run, but it > will be worthwhile. Remember how much cleaner we are with the new FS. And I > think the streams are even worse than the old FileDirectory was :) Yes I totally agree. But I want to do it well :) Stef

Dec. 5, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-12-05, at 15:03, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > > >> Thanks for the confirmation. >> >> Did I read somewhere that XTreams would be included in Pharo2.0? > > May be > Now just loading them and not improving the system to be able to throw away the old streams is not satisfactory > and we do not have the manpower for it. I think it is the same story as with the FileSystem... They will have to exist for some time in parallel, which will work fine since they don't share the same protocols. Then we have to do a major move towards a small legacy layer, again like in FS, and then start to rewrite things step by step to the new Xtreams. The current streams are so horribly broken that I think there is little to no chance to fix it from within. Maybe wrappers like Sven did will temporarily work around the issues, but they are poor solution compared to Xtreams. I remember Sean loaded and made Xtreams work in 2.0 and the couple of test failing were related to the FS changes from 14 to 20. And yes we might sweat some blood until the thing will properly run, but it will be worthwhile. Remember how much cleaner we are with the new FS. And I think the streams are even worse than the old FileDirectory was :)

Dec. 5, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> Thanks for the confirmation. > > Did I read somewhere that XTreams would be included in Pharo2.0? May be Now just loading them and not improving the system to be able to throw away the old streams is not satisfactory and we do not have the manpower for it. > When you say not fully up to date, it seems like the configuration > references changes from Mar 2012 - so I guess thats not too old - although > it seems hard to tell as the Pharo configuration doesn't really tell you > this info (I think you can infer it by looking at the timestamp of the > oldest version method), and the XTreams project website doesn't have any > history detail and the Cincom store looks like you have to load VW to check > this. > > So we don't do ourselves many favours to communicate version history which > is a bit of a shame. > > Anyway - I can still practice using what is there I guess. Let us know if you succeed. Stef

Dec. 5, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Legacy FileDirectory

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

thanks camillo Stef On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:20 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > I finally found the motivation to properly package my compatibility package. > > http://smalltalkhub.com/#!/~dh83/fisleg/packages/FileSystem-Legacy > > For people who want to migrate to 2.0 but depend on FileDirectory, they can > load this compatibility package for 2.0 which will add a mock FileDirectory. > It will mostly forward to FileReference. > > This is legacy software and should only be used for migration ;) > > best > cami >

Dec. 5, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] PharoConf 2013 @ Bern?

by Camillo Bruni

Bern of course is always good ;) though I am not the most neutral person when it comes to this question On 2012-12-05, at 05:44, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> wrote: > Hello Pharoers > > The software composition group of the university of Bern proposed to organize the next pharo conf at berne during the week > of 2-3 of April 2013. We are really happy of this proposal. Now we would like to know what you think about it > before committing to the date and location. > > The Pharo board and crew

Dec. 5, 2012

PharoConf 2013 @ Bern?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Hello Pharoers The software composition group of the university of Bern proposed to organize the next pharo conf at berne during the week of 2-3 of April 2013. We are really happy of this proposal. Now we would like to know what you think about it before committing to the date and location. The Pharo board and crew

Dec. 5, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] How to try out XTreams

by Camillo Bruni

On 2012-12-04, at 20:56, Tim Mackinnon <tamackinnon(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the confirmation. > > Did I read somewhere that XTreams would be included in Pharo2.0? > > When you say not fully up to date, it seems like the configuration > references changes from Mar 2012 - so I guess thats not too old - although > it seems hard to tell as the Pharo configuration doesn't really tell you > this info (I think you can infer it by looking at the timestamp of the > oldest version method), Metacello has many features hidden ;) ConfigurationOfCI project lastVersion inspect but yes, it could be improved. Actually there is a tool called Versionner that helps you with all these tasks (you can install it from the metacello repository tool). > and the XTreams project website doesn't have any > history detail and the Cincom store looks like you have to load VW to check > this. yes for that you need VW, but I think you get a free copy as a student or for evaluation. > So we don't do ourselves many favours to communicate version history which > is a bit of a shame. > > Anyway - I can still practice using what is there I guess. sure, as I said before, I think the main problem is that VW updated their versions a bit.

Dec. 5, 2012