October 2012 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

about Metacello package loading order

by Usman Bhatti

I have a configuration as follows : spec for: #common do: [ "a class in package BBB inherits from a class in package AAA" spec package: 'AAA'; package: 'BBB' with: [spec requires: 'AAA'] ]. Now, when I try to load this configuration, it fails to properly load the package BBB (there are some missing classes) with this msg: *This package depends on the following classes:* * A class in package AAA* *You must resolve these dependencies before you will be able to load these definitions: A class in package BBB.* It seems that there is a way to load packages in a linear order ( http://code.google.com/p/metacello/wiki/FAQ#Controlling_Package_Initializat…) However, my project defaults is already set to linear and after reading this post my problem is not resolved. Can anyone help me how I can enforce package AAA to load before BBB? tx, usman

Oct. 14, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

phil we should improve the situation. Do you have some code that we can integrate to the pharosound package and its initialization? Stef On Oct 13, 2012, at 3:19 PM, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true just doesn't do all it should. > > SoundPlayer is the root of all; SoundSystems adds the background thread for multivoice play and mixing. > > Get SoundPlayer work, then take care of Soundsystem > > 2012/10/13 Volkert Barr <volkert(a)nivoba.de> > I loaded the package now i a clean Pharo 1.4 Image with the latest update: #14459 (on OS X Lion 10.7.5). > > The MIDIPianoKeyboardMorph works, but FMSound not (no errors, but silence) > > For FMSound i tried this > - BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. > - FMSound organ1 play. > > Any hints here? > > Volkert > > > > On 13.10.2012, at 13:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Thanks for reporting it > > We should check that. > > > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > > >> I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > >> > >> Gofer new > >> squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > >> load. > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > >> > >> After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is "corrupted". > >> > >> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > >> > >> Volkert > >> > >> On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > >>> > >>> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check now > >>> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>>> BW, > >>>> Volkert > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.nivoba.de > >> www.software-wartung.net > >> www.erlang-dach.org > >> > >> PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > >> > > > > > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > > > >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by Volkert Barr

No idea how. Have you a concrete example? On 13.10.2012, at 15:19, phil(a)highoctane.be wrote: > BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true just doesn't do all it should. > > SoundPlayer is the root of all; SoundSystems adds the background thread for multivoice play and mixing. > > Get SoundPlayer work, then take care of Soundsystem > > 2012/10/13 Volkert Barr <volkert(a)nivoba.de> > I loaded the package now i a clean Pharo 1.4 Image with the latest update: #14459 (on OS X Lion 10.7.5). > > The MIDIPianoKeyboardMorph works, but FMSound not (no errors, but silence) > > For FMSound i tried this > - BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. > - FMSound organ1 play. > > Any hints here? > > Volkert > > > > On 13.10.2012, at 13:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Thanks for reporting it > > We should check that. > > > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > > >> I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > >> > >> Gofer new > >> squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > >> load. > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > >> > >> After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is "corrupted". > >> > >> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > >> > >> Volkert > >> > >> On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > >>> > >>> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check now > >>> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>>> BW, > >>>> Volkert > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.nivoba.de > >> www.software-wartung.net > >> www.erlang-dach.org > >> > >> PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > >> > > > > > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > > > > -- www.nivoba.de www.software-wartung.net www.erlang-dach.org PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by phil＠highoctane.be

BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true just doesn't do all it should. SoundPlayer is the root of all; SoundSystems adds the background thread for multivoice play and mixing. Get SoundPlayer work, then take care of Soundsystem 2012/10/13 Volkert Barr <volkert(a)nivoba.de> > I loaded the package now i a clean Pharo 1.4 Image with the latest update: > #14459 (on OS X Lion 10.7.5). > > The MIDIPianoKeyboardMorph works, but FMSound not (no errors, but silence) > > For FMSound i tried this > - BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. > - FMSound organ1 play. > > Any hints here? > > Volkert > > > > On 13.10.2012, at 13:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Thanks for reporting it > > We should check that. > > > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > > >> I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > >> > >> Gofer new > >> squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > >> load. > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > >> > >> After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo > is "corrupted". > >> > >> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > >> > >> Volkert > >> > >> On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities > (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > >>> > >>> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to > check now > >>> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>>> BW, > >>>> Volkert > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.nivoba.de > >> www.software-wartung.net > >> www.erlang-dach.org > >> > >> PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > >> > > > > > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > > > >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by phil＠highoctane.be

Look at the previous mail's link and try the things in sequence. 2012/10/13 Volkert Barr <volkert(a)nivoba.de> > I loaded the package now i a clean Pharo 1.4 Image with the latest update: > #14459 (on OS X Lion 10.7.5). > > The MIDIPianoKeyboardMorph works, but FMSound not (no errors, but silence) > > For FMSound i tried this > - BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. > - FMSound organ1 play. > > Any hints here? > > Volkert > > > > On 13.10.2012, at 13:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > Thanks for reporting it > > We should check that. > > > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > > >> I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > >> > >> Gofer new > >> squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > >> load. > >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > >> > >> After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo > is "corrupted". > >> > >> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > >> > >> Volkert > >> > >> On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear all, > >>>> > >>>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities > (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > >>> > >>> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to > check now > >>> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > >>> > >>> Stef > >>> > >>>> BW, > >>>> Volkert > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> www.nivoba.de > >> www.software-wartung.net > >> www.erlang-dach.org > >> > >> PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > >> > > > > > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > > > >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by Volkert Barr

I loaded the package now i a clean Pharo 1.4 Image with the latest update: #14459 (on OS X Lion 10.7.5). The MIDIPianoKeyboardMorph works, but FMSound not (no errors, but silence) For FMSound i tried this - BaseSoundSystem soundEnabled: true. - FMSound organ1 play. Any hints here? Volkert On 13.10.2012, at 13:06, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Thanks for reporting it > We should check that. > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >> I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: >> >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. >> >> After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is "corrupted". >> >> <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> >> >> Volkert >> >> On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> >>> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: >>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? >>> >>> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check now >>> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>>> BW, >>>> Volkert >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> www.nivoba.de >> www.software-wartung.net >> www.erlang-dach.org >> >> PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage >> > > -- www.nivoba.de www.software-wartung.net www.erlang-dach.org PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by phil＠highoctane.be

For the record, I am also doing an (educational) game. Maybe can we talk about the required features so that we can get a decent game platform. I am investing in Pharo to speed up the delivery lifecycle. My other developments are done with Monkey. http://monkeycoder.co.nz The best would be to have a game engine running in Monkey and all the scripting done with Pharo, Phil 2012/10/13 Volkert Barr <volkert(a)nivoba.de> > I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > > After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is > "corrupted". > > > Volkert > > On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > Dear all, > > > I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities > (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > > > there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check > now > have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > > Stef > > BW, > > Volkert > > > > > > > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by phil＠highoctane.be

I am running sound on Pharo1.4 Latest update: #14452 without problems on WinXP, OSX Lion, iOS5 I didn't used configuration of anything but loaded sound from the repositiory using Monticello. Phil 2012/10/13 StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> > Thanks for reporting it > We should check that. > > On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > > > I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > > load. > > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > > > > After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is > "corrupted". > > > > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > > > > Volkert > > > > On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > > >> > >> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >> > >>> Dear all, > >>> > >>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities > (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > >> > >> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check > now > >> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > >> > >> Stef > >> > >>> BW, > >>> Volkert > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > -- > > www.nivoba.de > > www.software-wartung.net > > www.erlang-dach.org > > > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage > > > > > >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Thanks for reporting it We should check that. On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: > > Gofer new > squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; > package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; > load. > (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. > > After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is "corrupted". > > <PastedGraphic-1.tiff> > > Volkert > > On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >> On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: >> >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? >> >> there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check now >> have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? >> >> Stef >> >>> BW, >>> Volkert >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- > www.nivoba.de > www.software-wartung.net > www.erlang-dach.org > > PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage >

Oct. 13, 2012

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo sound capabilites. What options?

by Volkert Barr

I loaded PharoSound in Pharo 1.4 with: Gofer new squeaksource: 'PharoSound'; package: 'ConfigurationOfPharoSound'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfPharoSound) project lastVersion load. After that i got this System Error Message (see screenshot) and Pharo is "corrupted". Volkert On 13.10.2012, at 08:35, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > > On Oct 12, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Volkert Barr wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> I am want to write in game in pharo 1.4, but need sound capabilities (playing mp3/ogg or midi, ..). what are my options here? > > there is a pharo sound package to load. I do not have the time to check now > have a look at configurationOfPharo or configurationOfSound? > > Stef > >> BW, >> Volkert >> >> >> > > -- www.nivoba.de www.software-wartung.net www.erlang-dach.org PGP-Key on request / PGP-SchlÃ¼ssel auf Anfrage

Oct. 13, 2012