September 2011 - Pharo-users

Re: [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Simon Denier

Yes it's much simpler to understand! On 19 sept. 2011, at 15:15, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > I did the following: > > 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip > > The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 > > 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > - one one-click is referenced > - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced > - The VMs are referenced and only those. > > We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't > need to mention it. > > Better? > > Marcus > > > On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: >> >>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >>> >>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >>> >>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >>> >>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >>> (at least the blessed ones) >>> > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > > -- Simon Denier

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 19, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Camillo Bruni wrote: > Looks nice > > should we maybe mark the 1.4 as beta? > Yes! Even in the side tab it should not read 'Release 1.4' but "beta 1.4" (or alpha? development?) > On 2011-09-19, at 15:15, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I did the following: >> >> 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. >> >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip >> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip >> >> The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 >> >> 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >> >> - one one-click is referenced >> - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced >> - The VMs are referenced and only those. >> >> We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't >> need to mention it. >> >> Better? >> >> Marcus >> >> >> On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> >>> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: >>> >>>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >>>> >>>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >>>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >>>> >>>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >>>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >>>> >>>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >>>> (at least the blessed ones) >>>> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de >> >> > > -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Camillo Bruni

Looks nice should we maybe mark the 1.4 as beta? On 2011-09-19, at 15:15, Marcus Denker wrote: > Hi, > > I did the following: > > 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. > > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip > https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip > > The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 > > 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > - one one-click is referenced > - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced > - The VMs are referenced and only those. > > We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't > need to mention it. > > Better? > > Marcus > > > On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> >> On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: >> >>> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >>> >>> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >>> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >>> >>> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >>> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >>> >>> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >>> (at least the blessed ones) >>> > > -- > Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de > >

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Marcus Denker

Hi, I did the following: 1) I took the VMs used in the one-click and made zip files from them. https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29040/CogVM-Mac-13307.zip https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29042/CogVM-Unix-13307.zip https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/29045/CogVM-Win-13307.zip The version number is the last update number. This way it's clear: use that VM with 1.3 2) I simplified http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download - one one-click is referenced - for 1.3 and 1.4, one image is referenced - The VMs are referenced and only those. We can simplify it even more: the .sources is contained in the image zips, so we don't need to mention it. Better? Marcus On Sep 18, 2011, at 5:12 PM, Marcus Denker wrote: > > On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > >> I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. >> >> First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) >> http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download >> >> Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ >> Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. >> >> Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? >> (at least the blessed ones) >> -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 19, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] String to number conversion issues

by Larry White

On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be>wrote: > Hi Larry, > > On 18 Sep 2011, at 21:37, Larry White wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I need to convert web input (Strings) to decimal numbers. I have a regex > that will recognize numeric strings, but not all of them can be converted to > a number with asNumber. For example, anything with a leading $+ fails, as > does anything beginning with '.' (even though .3 isNumber answers true.) or > '-.' > > > > Is there any code for dealing with this kind of thing (ie a method to be > called before calling asNumber or a more robust library for string > conversions? Given that all web input is strings and a lot of it is decimal > numbers, i have to believe there is code somewhere that does this safely, > maybe even with tests. :) > > > > Thanks. > > Maybe Number class>>#readFrom:ifFail: would be helpful ? > > Sven > Thank you. When I was looking for that method, I found the class ExtendedNumberParser, which handles all the cases mentioned properly.

Sept. 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] String to number conversion issues

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

Hi Larry, On 18 Sep 2011, at 21:37, Larry White wrote: > Hi, > > I need to convert web input (Strings) to decimal numbers. I have a regex that will recognize numeric strings, but not all of them can be converted to a number with asNumber. For example, anything with a leading $+ fails, as does anything beginning with '.' (even though .3 isNumber answers true.) or '-.' > > Is there any code for dealing with this kind of thing (ie a method to be called before calling asNumber or a more robust library for string conversions? Given that all web input is strings and a lot of it is decimal numbers, i have to believe there is code somewhere that does this safely, maybe even with tests. :) > > Thanks. Maybe Number class>>#readFrom:ifFail: would be helpful ? Sven

Sept. 18, 2011

String to number conversion issues

by Larry White

Hi, I need to convert web input (Strings) to decimal numbers. I have a regex that will recognize numeric strings, but not all of them can be converted to a number with asNumber. For example, anything with a leading $+ fails, as does anything beginning with '.' (even though .3 isNumber answers true.) or '-.' Is there any code for dealing with this kind of thing (ie a method to be called before calling asNumber or a more robust library for string conversions? Given that all web input is strings and a lot of it is decimal numbers, i have to believe there is code somewhere that does this safely, maybe even with tests. :) Thanks.

Sept. 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Clarify VM download info on the website

by Marcus Denker

On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Simon Denier wrote: > I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. > > First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) > http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download > > Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ > Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. > > Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? > (at least the blessed ones) > Yes, we need to fix all that... I will slowly do it. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://marcusdenker.de

Sept. 18, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] New version of Little Number Chapter

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Helene Bilbo wrote: > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> It can be obvious for some people but I like to make sure that we all find >> this obvious. Because it is not difficult once you spend a little time on >> it. >> > > Hi, > this chapter is very interesting and understandable. > > The one question i have is of course - how do the other numbers work, the > ones that are not âlittleâ ones. I donât know if you plan other chapters > (they would be very welcome) or if you could add a distinction between the > different kind of numbers in the introduction to this chapter? I do not know :) I would like to learn that and I would love if somebody would explain that to me :) Did you see the float chapter I wrote? > > One tiny remark: âgenderâ on page 14 is not a very good example to encode in > one bit. As everyone knows, there are as many genders as there are people :) > Best regards, Helene. > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/New-version-of-Little-Number-Chapter-tp3804761p381776… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Sept. 16, 2011

Clarify VM download info on the website

by Simon Denier

I was looking for a Cog VM with plugins and the information on the website is not very clear about the best way to get one. First, on the download page there is still a link to the old CI server (or is it still used?) http://www.pharo-project.org/pharo-download Second, the link for the Cog VMs points to http://www.mirandabanda.org/files/Cog/VM/ Unfortunately, these VMs come with no plugin. Why not advertizing the Cog VMs on https://ci.lille.inria.fr/pharo/view/Cog/ ? (at least the blessed ones) -- Simon Denier

Sept. 16, 2011