July 2011 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Autosave the image

by Francois Stephany

> BTW, I think that rebuilding your work image from the blank one using > your packages periodically is a good habit. Everyday is probably the best ;)

July 15, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Autosave the image

by Davorin Rusevljan

On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Alex Schenkman <alex(a)schenkman.info> wrote: > Hi list, > Is there a setting for autosaving the image every few minutes? > Is this a bad idea? > How do I save the image programmatically? > Thanks in advance! I would think it is a bad idea. Because: - you could easily end up with inconsistent, and therefore unusable autosaved image - saving manually is not such a big chore - saving monticello packages adds protection as well, and it also offers versioning - even if everything else fails, you still have your .changes file BTW, I think that rebuilding your work image from the blank one using your packages periodically is a good habit. Davorin Rusevljan http://www.cloud208.com/

July 15, 2011

Autosave the image

by Alex Schenkman

Hi list, Is there a setting for autosaving the image every few minutes? Is this a bad idea? How do I save the image programmatically? Thanks in advance!

July 15, 2011

Who is in contact with the SqueakSource admins

by Tobias Pape

Dear all Please, can somebody put me in contact with anyone who administers the SqueakSource.com instance/website? Iâd be glad to talk to this person(s). Best -Tobias

July 14, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Group windows as tab screencast

by Sven Van Caekenberghe

On 13 Jul 2011, at 14:09, Simon Denier wrote: > The slice seems empty (it actually depends on other packages which I can't find). I also tried with a fresh 1.3 image, by applying the changesets from Gary, but no luck. I guess it only really works with 1.4 but I can't find it. Yes, slices are magical things: they seem to be empty, but depend on other MC package versions, those are the ones that you need. But indeed, you have to find them and your image can't be too different, otherwise the diffs won't make much sense. Sven

July 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Group windows as tab screencast

by Simon Denier

On 13 juil. 2011, at 12:11, laurent laffont wrote: > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Simon Denier <simon.denier(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 13 juil. 2011, at 10:25, laurent laffont wrote: > >> >> I guess the first do-it is: DockingWindowMorph new openInWorld >> >> But I get a DNU #changePropotionalLayout on GroupWindowMorph with a recent Pharo 1.3 image. What should I do? >> >> It won't work in Pharo 1.3 out the box because it needs updated Polymorph. You need to apply patches from Gary: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4391 > > OK, there is a slice but I can't find it in either PharoInbox or PharoTreatedInbox. Any idea? > SLICE-Issue-4391-Support-grouping-windows-as-tab-LaurentLaffont.1 The slice seems empty (it actually depends on other packages which I can't find). I also tried with a fresh 1.3 image, by applying the changesets from Gary, but no luck. I guess it only really works with 1.4 but I can't find it. -- Simon Denier

July 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Moose-dev] petitparser tutorial

by Norbert Hartl

Am 13.07.2011 um 11:08 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe: > Any comments, Philippe ? > > Anyway, IMHO Unicode and UTF-8 are not broken in Pharo. It is perfectly possible, as you know, to write Seaside web apps or pure web services that deal correctly with Unicode through UTF-8, storing data is databases and/or files, or sending it further along to other services. > > On the other hand, I can imagine that not everything that one could wish for is already there, so slowly filling these functionality holes is important as well. But unless we know what they are, we can't begin to make progress. > I like to second this. I can see the tension to not decode on image entrance and to not encode on image exit. This way strings are treated "to be just in transit" which is true for a lot of strings if you do a web service that pulls data from a database. But this only works if you assume everything is assuming the same encoding. While it has performance benefits I'm not fond of treating stuff like this. Encoding is just not to be ignored. To me the only way is to do it right everytime. I can't even believe the statement that there is less trouble by not do decoding. In average of the use cases the mess you create by e.g. by accidentially accessing magnitude information from those strings should be on par with the en/decoding troubles. Norbert > > On 12 Jul 2011, at 22:45, Lukas Renggli wrote: > >> I don't remember. Ask Philippe, he is the expert on these kind of questions. >> >> Lukas >> >> >> On 12 July 2011 22:37, Sven Van Caekenberghe <sven(a)beta9.be> wrote: >>> Lukas, >>> >>> On 12 Jul 2011, at 22:23, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote: >>> >>>>>> Do you have a pointer to Philippe's presentation ? >>>>> >>>>> http://www.slideshare.net/esug/esug-unicode >>>> >>>> Thx, reading... >>> >>> You probably mean then that proper (locale aware) collation (sorting), equality (including normalization) are not implemented on WideString ? >>> >>> Sven >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> > >

July 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Group windows as tab screencast

by laurent laffont

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Simon Denier <simon.denier(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 13 juil. 2011, at 10:25, laurent laffont wrote: > > >> I guess the first do-it is: DockingWindowMorph new openInWorld >> > >> But I get a DNU #changePropotionalLayout on GroupWindowMorph with a recent >> Pharo 1.3 image. What should I do? >> > > It won't work in Pharo 1.3 out the box because it needs updated Polymorph. > You need to apply patches from Gary: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4391 > > > OK, there is a slice but I can't find it in either PharoInbox or > PharoTreatedInbox. Any idea? > SLICE-Issue-4391-Support-grouping-windows-as-tab-LaurentLaffont.1 > I've found it on my hard drive http://lolgzs.free.fr/pharo/SLICE-Issue-4391-Support-grouping-windows-as-ta… Laurent > > > -- > Simon Denier > > > >

July 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Group windows as tab screencast

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Simon Denier <simon.denier(a)gmail.com>wrote: > > On 13 juil. 2011, at 10:25, laurent laffont wrote: > > >> I guess the first do-it is: DockingWindowMorph new openInWorld >> > >> But I get a DNU #changePropotionalLayout on GroupWindowMorph with a recent >> Pharo 1.3 image. What should I do? >> > > It won't work in Pharo 1.3 out the box because it needs updated Polymorph. > You need to apply patches from Gary: > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4391 > > > OK, there is a slice but I can't find it in either PharoInbox or > PharoTreatedInbox. Any idea? > SLICE-Issue-4391-Support-grouping-windows-as-tab-LaurentLaffont.1 > > > Sure. Squeaksource looses versions. -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 13, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Group windows as tab screencast

by Simon Denier

On 13 juil. 2011, at 10:25, laurent laffont wrote: > > I guess the first do-it is: DockingWindowMorph new openInWorld > > But I get a DNU #changePropotionalLayout on GroupWindowMorph with a recent Pharo 1.3 image. What should I do? > > It won't work in Pharo 1.3 out the box because it needs updated Polymorph. You need to apply patches from Gary: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=4391 OK, there is a slice but I can't find it in either PharoInbox or PharoTreatedInbox. Any idea? SLICE-Issue-4391-Support-grouping-windows-as-tab-LaurentLaffont.1 -- Simon Denier

July 13, 2011