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Re: [Pharo-users] **Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks

by Mariano Martinez Peck

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Dear Pharoers > > I think that we are doing a great work: when I look at the work on the > theme, better widgets, network.....Excellent! and thanks. > Now we were discussing with Doru about how we as community could coordinate > and structure ourselves better to create more energy. > > Analysis of the current situation: > Right now we have individuals doing great projects, sometimes we > have a group of people but this is often not visible. > Now often happens a bit in ad-hoc way. Because someone ask > something, then somebody replies and we integrate the replies. > > What I would like to see emerging are First Class Tasks with > a name > Fuel > a topic > An object graph serializer > a coordinator > Mariano Martinez Peck > a group of interested participants, > Martin Dias > a set of identified clients (because clients are the ones that often > make us deliver more), > - Pharo itself - persistency - SandstoneDB (already done). - Pier kernel persistency (already done). - Moose model import/export (already done). - Newspeak. > a little agenda, > Lot of open issues: http://code.google.com/p/fuel/issues/list > a web presence on the web page > > http://rmod.lille.inria.fr/web/pier/software/Fuel > > If we look at what we have right now that are potential Tasks and really > important clients > > - The Z connection: > Network/Socket > Coordinator (proposed): Sven > Socket: Noury Luc Jannik Olivier > Clients: Seasiders, Clouders, > > - Morphic 2: > UI: Alain Gary Igor > Coordinator (proposed): ? > Presenty framework > VoidNullPointer UIBuilder > Athens > Clients: Moose, Pharo IDE > > - Pharo IDE: > Coordinator (proposed): Doru > work around TWM Laurent > Nautilus: Benjamin Laurent > Glamourous: Doru Damien > > - OPAL: > Compiler tool chain > Coordinator (proposed): Marcus? > Jb, Jorge, Marcus, > Helvetia lukas > Niko Schwarz? > > - Package: > Stef, Cyrille > Coordinator (proposed): Stephane > Client: Nautilus, Doru Moose, > > - Metacello > Dale Mariano > Coordinator (proposed): Dale? > Client: Stef with the idea of distribution, Torsten don't > you want to help here? > > - Coral: > Coordinator (proposed): Damien? > Damien, Luc, Adrien, Stef, > Client: Damien, Olivier? > > So what would be good is to have the identification on the web site of > these groups. > More discussions and concentration with a set of little tasks to be > performed > We could tag the mails with [Task-UI], [Task-OPAL], have a little visible > agenda. > > What do you think? I think that it is important. > > > > Stef > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] **Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks

by laurent laffont

On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:40 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr > wrote: > Dear Pharoers > > I think that we are doing a great work: when I look at the work on the > theme, better widgets, network.....Excellent! and thanks. > Now we were discussing with Doru about how we as community could coordinate > and structure ourselves better to create more energy. > > Analysis of the current situation: > Right now we have individuals doing great projects, sometimes we > have a group of people but this is often not visible. > Now often happens a bit in ad-hoc way. Because someone ask > something, then somebody replies and we integrate the replies. > > What I would like to see emerging are First Class Tasks with > a name > a topic > a coordinator > a group of interested participants, > a set of identified clients (because clients are the ones that often > make us deliver more), > a little agenda, > a web presence on the web page > > > If we look at what we have right now that are potential Tasks and really > important clients > > - The Z connection: > Network/Socket > Coordinator (proposed): Sven > Socket: Noury Luc Jannik Olivier > Clients: Seasiders, Clouders, > > - Morphic 2: > UI: Alain Gary Igor > Coordinator (proposed): ? > Presenty framework > VoidNullPointer UIBuilder > Athens > Clients: Moose, Pharo IDE > > - Pharo IDE: > Coordinator (proposed): Doru > work around TWM Laurent > Nautilus: Benjamin Laurent > Glamourous: Doru Damien > > - OPAL: > Compiler tool chain > Coordinator (proposed): Marcus? > Jb, Jorge, Marcus, > Helvetia lukas > Niko Schwarz? > > - Package: > Stef, Cyrille > Coordinator (proposed): Stephane > Client: Nautilus, Doru Moose, > > - Metacello > Dale Mariano > Coordinator (proposed): Dale? > Client: Stef with the idea of distribution, Torsten don't > you want to help here? > > - Coral: > Coordinator (proposed): Damien? > Damien, Luc, Adrien, Stef, > Client: Damien, Olivier? > > So what would be good is to have the identification on the web site of > these groups. > More discussions and concentration with a set of little tasks to be > performed > We could tag the mails with [Task-UI], [Task-OPAL], have a little visible > agenda. > > What do you think? I think that it is important. > > > > Stef > > I think we should try this. IMO a task around SUnit & friends is missing. Laurent.

July 1, 2011

**Important Please read** Towards First Class Tasks

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

Dear Pharoers I think that we are doing a great work: when I look at the work on the theme, better widgets, network.....Excellent! and thanks. Now we were discussing with Doru about how we as community could coordinate and structure ourselves better to create more energy. Analysis of the current situation: Right now we have individuals doing great projects, sometimes we have a group of people but this is often not visible. Now often happens a bit in ad-hoc way. Because someone ask something, then somebody replies and we integrate the replies. What I would like to see emerging are First Class Tasks with a name a topic a coordinator a group of interested participants, a set of identified clients (because clients are the ones that often make us deliver more), a little agenda, a web presence on the web page If we look at what we have right now that are potential Tasks and really important clients - The Z connection: Network/Socket Coordinator (proposed): Sven Socket: Noury Luc Jannik Olivier Clients: Seasiders, Clouders, - Morphic 2: UI: Alain Gary Igor Coordinator (proposed): ? Presenty framework VoidNullPointer UIBuilder Athens Clients: Moose, Pharo IDE - Pharo IDE: Coordinator (proposed): Doru work around TWM Laurent Nautilus: Benjamin Laurent Glamourous: Doru Damien - OPAL: Compiler tool chain Coordinator (proposed): Marcus? Jb, Jorge, Marcus, Helvetia lukas Niko Schwarz? - Package: Stef, Cyrille Coordinator (proposed): Stephane Client: Nautilus, Doru Moose, - Metacello Dale Mariano Coordinator (proposed): Dale? Client: Stef with the idea of distribution, Torsten don't you want to help here? - Coral: Coordinator (proposed): Damien? Damien, Luc, Adrien, Stef, Client: Damien, Olivier? So what would be good is to have the identification on the web site of these groups. More discussions and concentration with a set of little tasks to be performed We could tag the mails with [Task-UI], [Task-OPAL], have a little visible agenda. What do you think? I think that it is important. Stef

July 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] What do you do when your image freezes?

by Mariano Martinez Peck

yes, as Igor said this may help http://book.pharo-project.org/book/Tidbits/TipsAndTricks/InterruptKey/?_s=f… On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 5:07 AM, Igor Stasenko <siguctua(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 1 July 2011 03:07, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hi all, > > i would like to know what do you when your image freezee?. > > how do you find the problem? it's easy to kill the process and start > again > > but in this case i really want to know what's going on > > Right now, im using > > > > Pharo image: Pharo1.3#13280 > > Virtual machine used: Squeak4.1 of 17 April 2010 [latest update: #9957] > > Platform Name: unix > > > > I've read the vm's options but i couldn't find something useful. > > > > what should i do? > > > Press Alt-. > it will interrupt the process which currently running. > > > thanks in advance > > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com

July 1, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] What do you do when your image freezes?

by Igor Stasenko

On 1 July 2011 03:07, Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras <vonbecmann(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hi all, > Â i would like to know what do you when your image freezee?. > Â how do you find the problem? it's easy to kill the process and start again > but in this case i really want to know what's going on > Â Right now, im using > > Â Pharo image: Pharo1.3#13280 > Â Virtual machine used: Squeak4.1 of 17 April 2010 [latest update: #9957] > Â Platform Name: unix > > Â I've read the vm's options but i couldn't find something useful. > > Â what should i do? > Press Alt-. it will interrupt the process which currently running. > thanks in advance > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

July 1, 2011

What do you do when your image freezes?

by Bernardo Ezequiel Contreras

Hi all, i would like to know what do you when your image freezee?. how do you find the problem? it's easy to kill the process and start again but in this case i really want to know what's going on Right now, im using Pharo image: Pharo1.3#13280 Virtual machine used: Squeak4.1 of 17 April 2010 [latest update: #9957] Platform Name: unix I've read the vm's options but i couldn't find something useful. what should i do? thanks in advance

July 1, 2011