April 2011 - Pharo-users - lists.pharo.org

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by Nick Chen

StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >>> >> Thanks Stef and Ben. I did get it to work with the latest Pharo-1.3 core. >> It >> has >> a clean interface that I look forward to using it when it becomes >> official. >> >> I am not familiar enough with the Pharo Core -> Pharo Dev process so I >> was >> not able to get the Mercury Panel (if it works in Nautilus), the >> refactoring >> tools and navigation history to work. > > it does not. > Ben will add refactoring support soon (matter of menus), navigation and > search. > OK. I'll keep an eye on Nautilus. It is always nice to see changes being made to the browser to make it more the UI more functional and up-to-date. >> Actually, the project that I'm currently on also makes uses of some of >> the >> underlying components in Pharo-1.2 like Morphs and Editors so I can't >> really >> use the bleeding edge in Pharo-1.3. But I would like to use it soon. So >> some >> questions for you as core developers: >> >> 1) Do you have a API for Pharo-1.2? I know that you can do WorldMenu > >> Help >> and browse to Pharo > API Reference but there is nothing official there >> stating that those are the "official" APIs. > > not that I know :) > >> 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can >> start porting what we to make sure that it works. > > 1.3 is stable, really stable. > I'll post on the mailing list if I have specific questions about the components that I'm using. >> Anyway back to O2. I'm in the process of getting the O2 packages to work. >> I've >> gotten them to load for the most part and from my own use they seem to >> work. >> I'll try to make the remaining failing/error tests pass and then post my >> initial changes. I already know that some things don't work like >> undo/redo but I (or >> someone else) can fix those later. > > I would not invest on O2. This is the past and it bends too much OB so > have a > look at nautilus the groups are working much better. > > Stef > > Agreed. I've invested just a few hours already so I decided to just finish it up. I've made the proposed fix available at http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3992. Perhaps some other people might find it useful. Perhaps not, but that's OK too. :-) -- Nick -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Code-Navigation-Navigation-History-in-System-Browser-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 12, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by Johan Fabry

On 11 Apr 2011, at 15:57, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can >> start porting what we to make sure that it works. > > 1.3 is stable, really stable. Quick question, what are the major changes planned for 1.3 and what is the (dreamed of/ideal/...) release plan? The website does not say anything ... -- Johan Fabry jfabry(a)dcc.uchile.cl - http://dcc.uchile.cl/~jfabry PLEIAD Lab - Computer Science Department (DCC) - University of Chile

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] Metacello chapter

by Pat Maddox

On Apr 6, 2011, at 5:49 AM, Davorin Rusevljan wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse(a)inria.fr> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys >>> >>> here is a new version of the metacello chapter. >>> So we wrote it, rewrote it, rerewrote it. >>> Now if this is of interest for you you can read it. >>> >>> But if you don't it means that I'm losing my time and I should stop >>> writing and like >>> that you can cry that there is no doc about Pharo. > > Stef thanks! It has cleared quite a few things in my head. Same here. The "Development Cycle Walk Through" section is particularly helpful. I haven't typed the code in, but reading through it I feel ready to tackle a Metacello config on my projects. Thank you for documenting this important tool. Pat

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by Marcus Denker

On Apr 11, 2011, at 10:49 PM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > >> >>>> 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can >>>> start porting what we to make sure that it works. >>> >>> 1.3 is stable, really stable. >> >> >> Quick question, what are the major changes planned for 1.3 and what is the (dreamed of/ideal/...) release plan? The website does not say anything ... > > we were planning for > - FileSystem but not sure it will be there may be loaded but not integrated > - Rpackage but I need to take some time to concentrate for real > - new browser but it depends on RPackage > - Opal but there are still missing parts. So I wonder if we don't do a quick 1.3 release with out Rpackage and Opal. Form my side Opal definitly should not be in the critical path of the 1.3 release, if we talk about a quick release soon. Marcus -- Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

> >>> 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can >>> start porting what we to make sure that it works. >> >> 1.3 is stable, really stable. > > > Quick question, what are the major changes planned for 1.3 and what is the (dreamed of/ideal/...) release plan? The website does not say anything ... we were planning for - FileSystem but not sure it will be there may be loaded but not integrated - Rpackage but I need to take some time to concentrate for real - new browser but it depends on RPackage - Opal but there are still missing parts. - better announcements. Lot of little but important fixes Stef

April 11, 2011

Help with TreeListMorph

by Adrien BARREAU

Hi, I'm taking a look at the FileDialogWindow: FileDialogWindow new open. On the left, there is a tree. With the halo, I know it is a TreeListMorph. Here is my question: How can I know what is happening when I click on one of the little arrows which are just on the left of a directory name? With my changes, the subtree is very slow to be displayed and I don't understand what is called. Adrien.

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by StÃ©phane Ducasse

>> > Thanks Stef and Ben. I did get it to work with the latest Pharo-1.3 core. It > has > a clean interface that I look forward to using it when it becomes official. > > I am not familiar enough with the Pharo Core -> Pharo Dev process so I was > not able to get the Mercury Panel (if it works in Nautilus), the refactoring tools and navigation history to work. it does not. Ben will add refactoring support soon (matter of menus), navigation and search. > Actually, the project that I'm currently on also makes uses of some of the > underlying components in Pharo-1.2 like Morphs and Editors so I can't really > use the bleeding edge in Pharo-1.3. But I would like to use it soon. So some > questions for you as core developers: > > 1) Do you have a API for Pharo-1.2? I know that you can do WorldMenu > Help > and browse to Pharo > API Reference but there is nothing official there stating > that those are the "official" APIs. not that I know :) > 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can > start porting what we to make sure that it works. 1.3 is stable, really stable. > Anyway back to O2. I'm in the process of getting the O2 packages to work. > I've > gotten them to load for the most part and from my own use they seem to work. > I'll try to make the remaining failing/error tests pass and then post my > initial changes. I already know that some things don't work like undo/redo but I (or > someone else) can fix those later. I would not invest on O2. This is the past and it bends too much OB so have a look at nautilus the groups are working much better. Stef > > Thanks! > > -- > Nick > > -- > View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Code-Navigation-Navigation-History-in-System-Browser-… > Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by Nick Chen

Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote: > > It's probably the point. > > Because since I'm trying a lot of UI choices, I post tons of fixes :) Try > with > the last 1.3 image or the last RPackage image from Hudson, and it should > work ( > soon a one-click Nautilus image on Hudson ^^) > > Ben > > StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: >> >> Did you try in the latest 1.3? >> >> Stef >> > Thanks Stef and Ben. I did get it to work with the latest Pharo-1.3 core. It has a clean interface that I look forward to using it when it becomes official. I am not familiar enough with the Pharo Core -> Pharo Dev process so I was not able to get the Mercury Panel (if it works in Nautilus), the refactoring tools and navigation history to work. Actually, the project that I'm currently on also makes uses of some of the underlying components in Pharo-1.2 like Morphs and Editors so I can't really use the bleeding edge in Pharo-1.3. But I would like to use it soon. So some questions for you as core developers: 1) Do you have a API for Pharo-1.2? I know that you can do WorldMenu > Help and browse to Pharo > API Reference but there is nothing official there stating that those are the "official" APIs. 2) When do you expect to have an API freeze for Pharo-1.3? That way I can start porting what we to make sure that it works. Anyway back to O2. I'm in the process of getting the O2 packages to work. I've gotten them to load for the most part and from my own use they seem to work. I'll try to make the remaining failing/error tests pass and then post my initial changes. I already know that some things don't work like undo/redo but I (or someone else) can fix those later. Thanks! -- Nick -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Code-Navigation-Navigation-History-in-System-Browser-… Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] Code Navigation: Navigation History in System Browser?

by Benjamin

It's probably the point. Because since I'm trying a lot of UI choices, I post tons of fixes :) Try with the last 1.3 image or the last RPackage image from Hudson, and it should work ( soon a one-click Nautilus image on Hudson ^^) Ben On Apr 11, 2011, at 7:38 AM, StÃ©phane Ducasse wrote: > Did you try in the latest 1.3? > > Stef > > On Apr 11, 2011, at 4:18 AM, Nick Chen wrote: > >> >> Benjamin Van Ryseghem-2 wrote: >>> >>> This feature should be available in Nautilus ;) >>> >>> Just wait a bit ^^ >>> >>> >>> Ben >>> >> >> Ben, thanks for the pointer! Haven't heard of Nautilus before but a quick >> search >> through the forums reveals that it's a "new browser" with a lot of nice >> features. >> >> I tried the following to try to load it: >> >> "Found this through >> http://forum.world.st/introducing-RPackage-td3326084.html" >> Gofer new >> squeaksource: 'PharoTaskForces'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfRPackage'; >> load. >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRPackage) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> Gofer new >> url: 'http://www.squeaksource.com/Nautilus'; >> package: 'ConfigurationOfNautilus'; >> load. >> >> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfNautilus) perform: #loadDefault. >> >> But when I tried to start it from the World Menu it throws a MNU about >> PluggableIconListMorphOfMany. >> >> Where can I load the PluggableIconListMorphOfMany class and friends? >> >> Thanks! >> >> -- >> Nick >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Code-Navigation-Navigation-History-in-System-Browser-… >> Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> > >

April 11, 2011

Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-project] FAQ migration

by Adrian Lienhard

On Apr 10, 2011, at 13:16 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > Thanks Max, I am reading it now :) > For those who doesn't know the link: http://book.pharo-project.org/book/FAQ/ Hm, this page is pretty empty... Adrian BTW, there's another FAQ, which I had written over some time: http://www.pharo-project.org/documentation/faq. Does it make sense to keep both (a technical and a non-technical FAQ)? Or should we merge this one also into the book?

April 11, 2011